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patricknd said:he's not a texan anyway, hell he's from south oklahoma.
south oklahoma pffft....I pay for this EVERY DAY..
and before that I paid for this EVERY DAY..
patricknd said:he's not a texan anyway, hell he's from south oklahoma.
redtreviso said:south oklahoma pffft....I pay for this EVERY DAY..
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and before that I paid for this EVERY DAY..
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patricknd said:congrats on your real estate. have you ever actually been in either one?
redtreviso said:I've been to the ballpark twice..In the first year..What the BPA represents to me now has ruined my lifelong interest in baseball...
As for Jerry Jones..I will never go there..I'm one of those communists that should be killed because I don't give 2s about the Dallas Cowboys..
I do enough at 1/2 cent for every dollar I spend..for 22 years...I have to go out now and get some groceries and stuff and make my daily contribution.
Hugh Januss said:It is the American way, screw health care, but we will let you pay for the workplace of a bunch of overpaid millionaires. And not just by paying too much for the tickets.![]()
patricknd said:are you going to claim that your shop wasn't paid for by special sales taxes forced onto people with no interest in going there? come on, 'fess it up....
redtreviso said:south oklahoma pffft....I pay for this EVERY DAY...
Alpe d'Huez said:Ha! At least you can see and visit your purchase. Seattle is still paying for the Kingdome with another $80m or yet still to go, and it was imploded and swept away over a decade ago! I actually have a chunk of it on my porch I use as a door stop. As I helped pay for that thing, I'm going to make damned sure I get at least SOME use out of it.
It's not the only one. Giants Stadium in New Jersey still has $110m public debt on it to be paid, and it's long turned to dust. That entire area, stadiums, arenas, etc. has some $220m in public debt still. Citizens of NJ will cough up $35m in interest and payments this year alone. If lucky they'll have it paid off in 2025. About the time the new Meadowlands stadium will be due to be replaced, and whomever owns the team(s) that play there then will hold the state/city hostage for the stadium to replace it or move the team. The politicians will get bribed, and cave, using the guise that the new arena "creates jobs".
Plenty other stadiums and arenas in the country still have a lot of public debt on them. Some, like the Astrodome in Houston coughed up huge expenses in luxury boxes and other upgrades in order to keep the Oilers there. Owner Bud Adams moved them away after a few years anyway. Now the place sits empty.
Alpe d'Huez said:Ha! At least you can see and visit your purchase. Seattle is still paying for the Kingdome with another $80m or yet still to go, and it was imploded and swept away over a decade ago! I actually have a chunk of it on my porch I use as a door stop. As I helped pay for that thing, I'm going to make damned sure I get at least SOME use out of it.
It's not the only one. Giants Stadium in New Jersey still has $110m public debt on it to be paid, and it's long turned to dust. That entire area, stadiums, arenas, etc. has some $220m in public debt still. Citizens of NJ will cough up $35m in interest and payments this year alone. If lucky they'll have it paid off in 2025. About the time the new Meadowlands stadium will be due to be replaced, and whomever owns the team(s) that play there then will hold the state/city hostage for the stadium to replace it or move the team. The politicians will get bribed, and cave, using the guise that the new arena "creates jobs".
Plenty other stadiums and arenas in the country still have a lot of public debt on them. Some, like the Astrodome in Houston coughed up huge expenses in luxury boxes and other upgrades in order to keep the Oilers there. Owner Bud Adams moved them away after a few years anyway. Now the place sits empty.
patricknd said:in houston they told us we couldn't be a world class city without a downtown baseball stadium, and then a football team to replace the oilers. the light rail system we built coincidentally runs between the stadiums. i'm happy to report that our mediocre teams have made us world class at last. forget m.d. anderson, one of the top cancer treatment hospitals in the nation. forget the heart institute. we have minute maid park, and we're damn proud of it.
The Hitch said:Houston had the best name for a stadium ever.
The "Houston ASTRODOME". Epic. I believe now its called the reliant astrodome or something. What i dont get is why the Reliant astrodome and the reliant stadium which are basically the same thing (big 70 000 stadiums) are next to eachother. Thats like having 2 Wal marts next to eachother. It makes no sense.
Alpe d'Huez said:Ha! At least you can see and visit your purchase. Seattle is still paying for the Kingdome with another $80m or yet still to go, and it was imploded and swept away over a decade ago! I actually have a chunk of it on my porch I use as a door stop. As I helped pay for that thing, I'm going to make damned sure I get at least SOME use out of it.
It's not the only one. Giants Stadium in New Jersey still has $110m public debt on it to be paid, and it's long turned to dust. That entire area, stadiums, arenas, etc. has some $220m in public debt still. Citizens of NJ will cough up $35m in interest and payments this year alone. If lucky they'll have it paid off in 2025. About the time the new Meadowlands stadium will be due to be replaced, and whomever owns the team(s) that play there then will hold the state/city hostage for the stadium to replace it or move the team. The politicians will get bribed, and cave, using the guise that the new arena "creates jobs".
Plenty other stadiums and arenas in the country still have a lot of public debt on them. Some, like the Astrodome in Houston coughed up huge expenses in luxury boxes and other upgrades in order to keep the Oilers there. Owner Bud Adams moved them away after a few years anyway. Now the place sits empty.
I knew it was bad, but I didn't realize it was that bad. Plutocracy at it's finest.redtreviso said:The deal here just turns my stomach....
redtreviso said:""In lengthy interviews with a conservative magazine, the billionaire Koch brothers mounted an aggressive defense of their business and political interests, describing their liberal critics as “very, very extreme” and “very dangerous” and President Barack Obama as a “radical” with “Marxist” ideas whose success is owed largely to his “silver tongue.”
Obama is “the most radical president we’ve ever had as a nation … and has done more damage to the free enterprise system and long-term prosperity than any president we’ve ever had,” David Koch is quoted saying in a story posted late Friday on the website of the Weekly Standard.
In a grudging reference to Obama’s rhetorical skills, he added: “It just shows you what a person with a silver tongue can achieve.”
David’s brother Charles Koch said of Obama: “I’m not saying he’s a Marxist, but he’s internalized some Marxist models — that is, that business tends to be successful by exploiting its customers and workers.”""
Hugh Januss said:These people are greedy lying sons of beotches, and they are absolutely winning. I am afraid America just has too many stupid citizens to do anything about it though. Even the smarter ones who see that it is wrong do not see the scale of the ride they are being taken on. What can you do? Oh well, at least we'll be dead soon.![]()
Hugh Januss said:And yet our country is broke because of teachers and welfare moms.![]()
popolo said:I've been saying that a lot lately withouth the laughter.
Kurtz got off the boat, he broke from the whole effing program.
I promise you, if they put Reagan's mug on Mt Rushmore I'll be getting involved in some domestic terrorism. At least I'll paint a mustache on it. Should I put a smiley face after that?![]()
Cobblestones said:Mt. Rushmore is way too small for Reagan. They're going to put his face on freaking Mt. Rainier. Of course, just when it's finished, the whole thing will explode, Jesus (with Ron on his right and 'W' on his left) will descend from the heavens, and the rapture will be upon us, (televised life and in HD).
Hugh Januss said:These people are greedy lying sons of beotches, and they are absolutely winning. I am afraid America just has too many stupid citizens to do anything about it though. Even the smarter ones who see that it is wrong do not see the scale of the ride they are being taken on. What can you do? Oh well, at least we'll be dead soon.![]()
BroDeal said:Those fun loving U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-kill-team-20110327
SSDP (Same sh!t, different president)
