Interestingly, about a year or two ago I found them both incredibly suspicious, but van der Poel moreso/worse (able to do pretty much everything). That's shifted now.I'm a known MVDP fan on this site, so I'll probably get called sour grapes on for this comment But Wout is kind've ridiculous at this point. Are we really supposed to believe he can climb mountains like this, with nary a stage off, and always pulling on every terrain? The unbelievability is reaching Lance levels. Of course he's not the only one who's benefited from the high level of "professionalism" at JV. As talented as Wout is (and he is massively talented), the progression in certain facets of his performance is suspicious at best.