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Zajicek given life ban for doping

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ElChingon

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Well a Joe Papp fall out. Is this the start? Who's next?

Too bad Joe can't produce his sales list :p
 
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porkchop_sideburns

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Using the logic favored by most who post in "The Clinic" - we can safely assume that anyone whoever rode, managed, or was associated with Mercury, Saturn, Navigators, Health Net, and Fly V Australia are equally guilty.
 
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also looks Pegasus look like even more of a shower. Theres no way they didnt know about this. Half the internet knew.
 
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porkchop_sideburns said:
Using the logic favored by most who post in "The Clinic" - we can safely assume that anyone whoever rode, managed, or was associated with Mercury, Saturn, Navigators, Health Net, and Fly V Australia are equally guilty.
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That might be a little over the top.

We know quite a bit about Mercury & Saturn. TK rode for both Saturn and Navigatiors too. Healthnet and Fly V? Who knows... but I probably won't be too surprised with future revelations.
 
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I think he did

ElChingon said:
Well a Joe Papp fall out. Is this the start? Who's next?

Too bad Joe can't produce his sales list :p
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I think Joe produced his sales list to the people that matter but yes it would be great if his sales was revealed at some point.
 
joe_papp

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my sincere thoughts...

tofino said:
I think Joe produced his sales list to the people that matter but yes it would be great if his sales was revealed at some point.
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+1

I'm heartened to see @usantidoping persevered & prevailed in a difficult case and...I reiterate my plea to the guilty to come fwd of their own volition before it's too late. See: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/zajicek-given-life-ban-for-doping (and good luck to PZ in the next phase of his life).

I take no pleasure in seeing anyone hoisted w/ his own petard but know that it is inevitable in these cases...& cite it as an ex. of why doping = a bad choice & how lying about doping (while under oath!) = worse still.
 
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also looks Pegasus look like even more of a shower. Theres no way they didnt know about this. Half the internet knew.
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exactly. And yet he still had a job and a puff piece interview at velonews. Not sure what is worst here, the doping or the 'pretending it's not happening' by teams and media.

Actually, the pretense is worst for me.
 
MacRoadie

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porkchop_sideburns said:
Using the logic favored by most who post in "The Clinic" - we can safely assume that anyone whoever rode, managed, or was associated with Mercury, Saturn, Navigators, Health Net, and Fly V Australia are equally guilty.
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You sure you want to keep Mercury and Saturn on that "unfair aspersions" list?
 
hrotha

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joe_papp said:
+1

I'm heartened to see @usantidoping persevered & prevailed in a difficult case and...I reiterate my plea to the guilty to come fwd of their own volition before it's too late. See: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/zajicek-given-life-ban-for-doping (and good luck to PZ in the next phase of his life).

I take no pleasure in seeing anyone hoisted w/ his own petard but know that it is inevitable in these cases...& cite it as an ex. of why doping = a bad choice & how lying about doping (while under oath!) = worse still.
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Could you at least post a list of your customers' dogs?
 
D-Queued

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MacRoadie said:
porkchop_sideburns said:
Using the logic favored by most who post in "The Clinic" - we can safely assume that anyone whoever rode, managed, or was associated with Mercury, Saturn, Navigators, Health Net, and Fly V Australia are equally guilty.
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You sure you want to keep Mercury and Saturn on that "unfair aspersions" list?
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Maybe SoCal is friends with Ray Cippollini. He issued an open letter suggesting that his team was being persecuted because they had to comply with whereabouts reporting.

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That might be a little over the top.

We know quite a bit about Mercury & Saturn. TK rode for both Saturn and Navigatiors too. Healthnet and Fly V? Who knows... but I probably won't be too surprised with future revelations.
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Rather than worry about future revelations, let's just continue with connecting the dots:

Kirk O'Bee(nice guy, BTW)

Mapei-Quick Step...USPS...Navigators...Healthnet

Tested positive while riding for Navigators.

Lifetime ban 7 October 2010 for EPO. All Healthnet results vacated.

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And more dots:

Australian rider Nathan O’Neill was intimately involved in Kirk O’Bee’s purchase and use of doping products, according to a decision handed down by the American Arbitration Association on Wednesday...O’Neill and O’Bee were teammates on the Navigators Insurance team in 2005 and on the Health Net-Maxxis team during 2006 and 2007.

Yah, Ray, I believe you. Navigators were probably as clean as any other doping team.

Dave.
 
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porkchop_sideburns

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You sure you want to keep Mercury and Saturn on that "unfair aspersions" list?
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nah - my sarcasm did not come through. there are liars and cheats in all walks of life. however, that does not make everyone a liar or a cheat. I like to think that the same applies to cycling.
 
Hugh Januss

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porkchop_sideburns said:
nah - my sarcasm did not come through. there are liars and cheats in all walks of life. however, that does not make everyone a liar or a cheat. I like to think that the same applies to cycling.
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That would be a nice thought. Given the size-able difference that present day doping protocols can provide it may just come down to the choice not being between doping or not doping, but between doping or not going pro. The choice of whether to cheat or not in real life is not as absolute.
 
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The thing that is most farcical is that he was actually entering races for the last year or so when pretty much everybody knew he was about as clean as a film starring Ron Jeremy.
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Ron Jeremy?!? Every time we've seen him it's like he was glued to somebody's rear wheel. He never, ever took his turn at the front. Now you say he was juicing too on those "long" exploits? :eek:
 
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bearing in mind he tested positive in 2004, and has since had all results since 2007 removed from his palmares, he may as well just have his entire palmares zapped and be removed from wikipedia :rolleyes:
 
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rgmerk

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Crazy

Zajicek suffers from something called Crohn's Disease (though presumably a pretty mild case; you couldn't be an endurance athlete with a bad one).

I very much doubt EPO and the other PEDs he was taking have been specifically tested for interactions with his Crohn's medication.

Even more than your average doper, Zajicek was playing Russian roulette with his health. As somebody who does have a (thankfully very mild and controlled) case of Crohn's, it kinda flabbergasts me that anyone with the disease would take that chance.

The lengths people will go to, to become/stay professional cyclists (even for the lousy money a domestic US pro gets) continue to amaze me.
 
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