Zajicek given life ban for doping

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Hugh Januss said:
That would be a nice thought. Given the size-able difference that present day doping protocols can provide it may just come down to the choice not being between doping or not doping, but between doping or not going pro. The choice of whether to cheat or not in real life is not as absolute.

...or podiuming in the Masters field.

Dave.
 
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press statement

“Today, I have accepted a lifetime ban from the sport of cycling. I have had an enjoyable and successful career which has taken me to all corners of the of the globe and I’m grateful for everything cycling has given me. It’s time to walk away from the sport and begin the next chapter of my life with the tremendous support of my wife, family and friends behind me.”

What a ******
 
I believe Zajicek was the one who told Decanio that Horner was using EPO, after Decanio called out Z following his first positive. Too bad Z wasn't as honest with the USADA recently.
 
TeamSkyFans said:
press statement
“Today, I have accepted a lifetime ban from the sport of cycling. I have had an enjoyable and successful career which has taken me to all corners of the of the globe and I’m grateful for everything cycling has given me. It’s time to walk away from the sport and begin the next chapter of my life with the tremendous support of my wife, family and friends behind me.”


What a ******[/quote]

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TSF that pretty much sums it up.
what can you say to someone that thinks like that...sheesh :confused:
 
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Phil Z cheated but that doesn't make him any more of a low life than all the other cheaters in competitive cycling.

I bet there are many, many more cheats out there than most of us trained cynics realize.
 
TeamSkyFans said:
press statement

“Today, I have accepted a lifetime ban from the sport of cycling. I have had an enjoyable and successful career which has taken me to all corners of the of the globe and I’m grateful for everything cycling has given me. It’s time to walk away from the sport and begin the next chapter of my life with the tremendous support of my wife, family and friends behind me.”

What a ******

I hear you.

But, this is reasonably graceful. Whatever the back story, he is accepting his ban... without more hystrionics. We have seen much worse, and cannot expect others to even come close.

Dave.
 
D-Queued said:
I hear you.

But, this is reasonably graceful. Whatever the back story, he is accepting his ban... without more hystrionics. We have seen much worse, and cannot expect others to even come close.

Dave.

Zajicek is "walking away" from cycling like Napoleon walked away from Waterloo.

He got a lifetime ban. He's not walking away. He's persona non grata. He doped to beat up on a bunch of bike shop mechanics at Tour of the Gila. What a complete tool. The least he can do is apologize for being a fraud.
 
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Gotta agree w Moose here. The PZ statement smacks of denial and arrogance or something like that. No apology to us "bike mechanics" he beat up on, or the fans ect. Just all about him and how he's going to be fine.
 
Apr 30, 2010
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Psychopath of course... Like the others...

Was ready to take down a bunch of people if his first positive turned out bad... Was afraid of matt decanio on that one too...
 
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I must admit until I came on here I had idea how much of a doper Zajicek was/is. Mind you I didn't frequent cycling forums much either.
 
Moose McKnuckles said:
Zajicek is "walking away" from cycling like Napoleon walked away from Waterloo.

He got a lifetime ban. He's not walking away. He's persona non grata. He doped to beat up on a bunch of bike shop mechanics at Tour of the Gila. What a complete tool. The least he can do is apologize for being a fraud.

Just so you know, the French have never lost a battle. You must be reading the wrong history books.

For the rest, I agree totally with your comment.
 
Fat Jack Fan said:
I bet there are many, many more cheats out there than most of us trained cynics realize.

Here's an interesting little photo I found on the internet-Georgie Porgie with the Pineda brothers and Wilson Vasquez, the Mengoni riders who terrorized the local scene in NYC back in the days.

Maybe Joe Papp can enlighten us on these cats...

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now not to condone what Zajicek has done, but i think to describe him as a complete a**** is a little unfair.
Now i don't really know him, but i have met him. I Raced against him a couple years back. I was essentially still an u19 at my first national series race (which i did get hamered at but anyway). essentially phill gave me a few helpful hints and encouragement.... even though there was no need (or benefit) for him to do it. If you compare this to the general contempt that everyone else treats you with when you first start, it does show that he isn't that much of an a****.

i have had other experiences with people who have tested positive for this or that and in general they're not the soul-less people which they are often described as.
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
Phil Z = cycling garbage.

more or less garbage than vino, ricco, pantani, armstrong, ulrich, rumsas, khol, kloden, contador, andy and frank, menchov, evans, nibali, basso, indurain, fignon and lemond, hinault, poulidor, merckx, anquetil, bartali and coppi, etc? i mean, what's really the difference here that can make you a hero or garbage? the stupid and blind fans that one can get along the way? more ability to lie and drug as much as you can before dying?please explain.

and don't say "the ones that are garbage don't regret it.". I didn't\don't see merckx hinault coppi indurain armstrong etc etc regretting.
 
ambrose said:
now not to condone what Zajicek has done, but i think to describe him as a complete a**** is a little unfair.
Now i don't really know him, but i have met him. I Raced against him a couple years back. I was essentially still an u19 at my first national series race (which i did get hamered at but anyway). essentially phill gave me a few helpful hints and encouragement.... even though there was no need (or benefit) for him to do it. If you compare this to the general contempt that everyone else treats you with when you first start, it does show that he isn't that much of an a****.

i have had other experiences with people who have tested positive for this or that and in general they're not the soul-less people which they are often described as.
I've met Patrik Sinkewitz. He's a nice guy. He's also a cheat.

There are people on this forum who've met Isidro Nozal and Tyler Hamilton. They were also nice guys. And they were also cheats.

Phil Zajicek is getting more stick because:
a) he's been at it for years and we've known about it for some time so it's nice to finally be rid of the guy;
b) he lied to an arbitration panel in order to get away with it;
c) he encouraged others to lie to self-same arbitration panel;
d) his "taking the suspension with good grace" includes trumping up his (fraudulent) career and treating it like gardening leave.

It's easy to see why people might rejoice in his banning and consider him an expletive.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
I've met Patrik Sinkewitz. He's a nice guy. He's also a cheat.

There are people on this forum who've met Isidro Nozal and Tyler Hamilton. They were also nice guys. And they were also cheats.

Phil Zajicek is getting more stick because:
a) he's been at it for years and we've known about it for some time so it's nice to finally be rid of the guy;
b) he lied to an arbitration panel in order to get away with it;
c) he encouraged others to lie to self-same arbitration panel;
d) his "taking the suspension with good grace" includes trumping up his (fraudulent) career and treating it like gardening leave.

It's easy to see why people might rejoice in his banning and consider him an expletive.

I don't really want to argue with these points, but there are always two sides to stories. I realise it all makes the situation worse. however for point
a) once you start something, it is very hard to stop. i think there comes a point where they convince themselves that can't do it without the "help".
b) he lied to get away with it. can you blame him? would you incriminate yourself (say for a speeding fine) if you thought you could get away with it? (sorry for including a hypothetical... they really are the worst form of rebutal)C) same as b
d) fair enough, but these guys are all in denial. very few actually believe they have done something wrong

i think these guys could seriously considered to be sick. They tend to live in their own little worlds where they think their drug taking is only making it fair for them
 
ambrose said:
I don't really want to argue with these points, but there are always two sides to stories. I realise it all makes the situation worse. however for point
a) once you start something, it is very hard to stop. i think there comes a point where they convince themselves that can't do it without the "help".
b) he lied to get away with it. can you blame him? would you incriminate yourself (say for a speeding fine) if you thought you could get away with it? (sorry for including a hypothetical... they really are the worst form of rebutal)C) same as b
d) fair enough, but these guys are all in denial. very few actually believe they have done something wrong

i think these guys could seriously considered to be sick. They tend to live in their own little worlds where they think their drug taking is only making it fair for them

Indeed they live in that parallel world where doping is the norm, and lying becomes second nature.

I don't know Phil Zajicek from a hole in the ground, but I think why some are being hard on him is because from his comment he gives the impression that he is more sorry that he got caught than because he was a doper.
 
Lifetime ban, JUST from cycling?

Anyway, the main thing making him different from current riders is he was not only caught, also at a point admitted to doping. A much greater man than those with fanboys. Still a cheat.

People should first find out what a job discription is, before making it their life's goal to get that job. It's all it is. Thousands are doing it. Don't feel special just having made it. There are 100x fewer proper violin makers in the world than your profession.
 
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c&cfan said:
more or less garbage than vino, ricco, pantani, armstrong, ulrich, rumsas, khol, kloden, contador, andy and frank, menchov, evans, nibali, basso, indurain, fignon and lemond, hinault, poulidor, merckx, anquetil, bartali and coppi, etc? i mean, what's really the difference here that can make you a hero or garbage?

Well, one fundamental difference is that the guys mentioned above were imbued in a culture of doping. I'm not saying that "everyone is doing it" is a valid excuse, mind you. It's just the reality that many of those guys were in a position where they had to dope in order to be competitive at that level.

That's simply not the case with Zajicek. He was doping so he could win Mt. Hood and Bisbee... I guess that makes him a special kinda d-bag in the eyes of many.

Secondly, his unbelievably lame response isn't helping. At least act sorry, even if you aren't.

Phil was always a pleasant guy, but it certainly doesn't change the fact that he's a cheater. And make no mistake, this isn't the euro peloton where guys are talking about their doping techniques openly. This is a guy beating up on pro-am fields by gaining an advantage through doping.

For me, the worst part is that he continued to race even when he knew he was going to face the music? How lame it that?? At least he didn't affect the results, since as it turns out he's really average without dope. He's not the only one, though. I know of 4 guys who are alleged to be on Papp's list who are still out there racing? That's just silly, and demonstrates these guys need psychological help. I mean, your results are going to be invalidated in a few months..what's the point?
 

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