115th Paris-Roubaix 2017 - April 9, 257k

[Frankschleck]

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I mean - did GvA contributed when Oss was in front? (with all the respect for his own effort to get back before) As far as I remember he did only when he faced attacks from other leaders. Yet that was the part, when Styby was for the long kms the only one to left for his own leader. And he worked hard.

Indeed he countered attacks while he didn't have to. Quick Step gave Styby weird team orders. Styby had as many chance to outsprint Greg than Boonen to outsprint Degenkolb if not more. Fortuantely, everything ended the way it should.

Yep.
GVA deserved it. And Quick Step need a good kick up the beejesus for the negative tactics they've been employing. Boonen was out of it, Stybar had no good reason not to tap through.

He kind of did tho, as even though he didn't tap in, he still cound't win, so he would have been in a even worse posistion if he had helped van avermant

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Degenkolb had Stuyven in the front.

And that is the exact reason why Trek shouldn't have been satisfied with the situation.

 

[jaylew]

Degenkolb was 3rd guy from Trek?

 

[Billie]

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Degenkolb was 3rd guy from Trek?

yes even outsprinted by theuns.

Felline was better than him in e3 and de ronde and Stuyven today

 

[Tonton]

My morning ride is over, I just took a shower and watched the last hour of the race. What a year so far for GVA! In a year span, he has matured a great deal. Big win.

 

[Dan2016]

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I mean - did GvA contributed when Oss was in front? (with all the respect for his own effort to get back before) As far as I remember he did only when he faced attacks from other leaders. Yet that was the part, when Styby was for the long kms the only one to left for his own leader. And he worked hard.

Indeed he countered attacks while he didn't have to. Quick Step gave Styby weird team orders. Styby had as many chance to outsprint Greg than Boonen to outsprint Degenkolb if not more. Fortuantely, everything ended the way it should.

Yep.
GVA deserved it. And Quick Step need a good kick up the beejesus for the negative tactics they've been employing. Boonen was out of it, Stybar had no good reason not to tap through.

He kind of did tho, as even though he didn't tap in, he still cound't win, so he would have been in a even worse posistion if he had helped van avermant

Tapping through isn't driving the break. It wouldn't have made a great difference to his energy. It's just horribly negative to sit on like he did. And he then goes for a long range attack? It's too great a race for that nonsense.

The win has to be properly fought for to be truly deserved and if he'd won it would have left a bitter taste for me.

 

[Jagartrott]

Good race, sad for Sagan. I wonder if it was a coincidence that it happened twice when on the attack. Did he take more risks on the cobbles? I'm convinced that first attack wouldn't have lasted too long though. Just too far from the finish with two guys who's main man was 30 seconds back.

Good race by Greipel, and Hayman ended 11th (though I really didn't see him all day).

 

[rehy90]

Ok guys, I am czech so it is obvious who I was rooting for today. The think is that until 15 km to go I was over the moon with Stybys performance. Then we once again saw the totally *** tactics from QS. In this situation it was ok for Boonen not to cooperate, but there was no reason for Styby to not take relays when in the group behind there was no QS rider. So when they came to velodrome I was actually confused who I wanted to win and immediately after the race I was glad that it was Greg. Now after few hours and a few beers I believe that if Styby won I would be able to justify it with the way he worked for Boonen from 100 kms to go. He was the only one from QS after the Arrenberg to help his leader. Basically I would really love to see Stybar in a different team for next years Roubaix, because it really is the race that suits him so much - 4 times in top 10 and twice on the podium. On the other hand maybe next year he could be the sole leader for QS. I just really think he deserves a victory in the future.

 

[luckyboy]

I don't know why anybody thinks Stybar should see the wind after joining a 3-man group with Van Avermaet. If that is properly fighting for the win then you might as well have the podium presentation 10km from the end.

 

[jaylew]

Stybar has outsprinted GVA on the velodrome before.

 

[Jagartrott]

Stybar said he was having cramps, so Boonen gave him an excuse to not work. I didn't really like it, but I can understand.

 

[Anderis]

Piet Allegaert- 22 years and 17th place. A rider to watch for the future.

 

[klintE]

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Durbrige crashed

quickly picked up and now he's back in the pack

He did a "Bardet" to come back.

You spelled Demare wrong, my friend

By Demare you mean Nibali?

 

[Volderke]

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This time it was more down to attrition as the pace was kept high (but not super high) and riders slowly dropped of the back.

This was the fastest Roubaix in the history of Paris-Roubaix, even faster than 1964 when there were only like 22 kms of cobbles in the race.
How do you mean the pace was not super high?

 

[Jancouver]

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Ok guys, I am czech so it is obvious who I was rooting for today. The think is that until 15 km to go I was over the moon with Stybys performance. Then we once again saw the totally ****** tactics from QS. In this situation it was ok for Boonen not to cooperate, but there was no reason for Styby to not take relays when in the group behind there was no QS rider. So when they came to velodrome I was actually confused who I wanted to win and immediately after the race I was glad that it was Greg. Now after few hours and a few beers I believe that if Styby won I would be able to justify it with the way he worked for Boonen from 100 kms to go. He was the only one from QS after the Arrenberg to help his leader. Basically I would really love to see Stybar in a different team for next years Roubaix, because it really is the race that suits him so much - 4 times in top 10 and twice on the podium. On the other hand maybe next year he could be the sole leader for QS. I just really think he deserves a victory in the future.

Why would he be changing teams now when Boonen is gone? He will be the leader now .. unless Phil decides to ride next year :/

 

[May0maniac]

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Durbrige crashed

quickly picked up and now he's back in the pack

He did a "Bardet" to come back.

You spelled Demare wrong, my friend

By Demare you mean Nibali?

It's only a Nibali if you get caught.
Oliver Naesen had a ton of bad luck, a crash, 4(!) punctures and a broken derailleur .
Was able to catch back up to Boonen in the Carrefour sector only to puncture for the 4th time, talk about being mighty strong and having a ton of bad luck.
Source: http://cyclingpro.net/velopro/cours...ute-quatre-crevaisons-derailleur-casse-voila/

 

[Billie]

Stybar will win a Roubaix in the future. 6th, 5th, 2nd and 2nd in 5 years as a road cyclist. Surely we'll have a rain edition soon.

 

[Jancouver]

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To be fair, if Boonen didn't want to be shadowed the whole race, perhaps he shouldn't have made such a song and a dance about the fact that he was retiring immediately afterwards and would be building his entire training for the season around winning the race. Sure, he got lots of attention for it, and loads of eulogies - but it probably didn't optimize his chances of going under the radar a bit and winning. It also meant that Stybar's attack took not pressure off him, because everyone knew he was the outright leader. Ultimately, he ended up being even more heavily marked than Sagan.

Isn't it funny when a QS rider is whining about the same crap they do/did to Sagan every time? With all the respect for Boonen, he sounds like a typical hypocrite... its fine until it happens to you right Tom?

 

[Netserk]

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Stybar will win a Roubaix in the future. 6th, 5th, 2nd and 2nd in 5 years as a road cyclist. Surely we'll have a rain edition soon.

How do you imagine him winning? He's fast, but really fast enough on the line. He's really great on the cobbles, but on the asphalt I don't see him holding a gap. He'd probably have to escape with someone like Vanmarcke.

 

[klintE]

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Durbrige crashed

quickly picked up and now he's back in the pack

He did a "Bardet" to come back.

You spelled Demare wrong, my friend

By Demare you mean Nibali?

It's only a Nibali if you get caught.

Fair enough Get it

 

[Billie]

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Stybar will win a Roubaix in the future. 6th, 5th, 2nd and 2nd in 5 years as a road cyclist. Surely we'll have a rain edition soon.

How do you imagine him winning? He's fast, but really fast enough on the line. He's really great on the cobbles, but on the asphalt I don't see him holding a gap. He'd probably have to escape with someone like Vanmarcke.

he's great in a 2 men sprint. Seen him win many of those. Really thought he was going to win today but think he was a bit surprised by Moscon and Stuyven coming back

 

[vedrafjord]

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Which is often how Quickstep have raced in the past. They put someone up front who is good but probably won't win and then shadow anyone in the 2nd group.

I've never heard anyone explain it like that before but it's so true.

 

[DNP-Old]

https://twitter.com/quintencouckuyt/status/851131319694307328 Lol.

This is Guardini taking the quickest route to Roubaix: the highway.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Degenkolb had Stuyven in the front.

And that is the exact reason why Trek shouldn't have been satisfied with the situation.

You are right about that. It was a mistake to send Jasper up the road when the decisive break formed. In hindsight, the Trek DS should also have told Stuyven to fall back, so they could have organized a chase from behind in the dying kilometers. But whatever... Boonen should know better than to use such words - many times it's been the other way around and Etixx has been riding negatively against Fabian or Sagan.

 

[Irondan]

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Degenkolb had Stuyven in the front.

And that is the exact reason why Trek shouldn't have been satisfied with the situation.

You are right about that. It was a mistake to send Jasper up the road when the decisive break formed. In hindsight, the Trek DS should also have told Stuyven to fall back, so they could have organized a chase from behind in the dying kilometers. But whatever... Boonen should know better than to use such words - many times it's been the other way around and Etixx has been riding negatively against Fabian or Sagan.

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