13th Tour Down Under 2011, (809 kms) WT Jan 16-23

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Matthijs said:
Freire no topsprinter? why did he win MSR 3 times? Tireno-Adriatico is also a sprint-fest: most MSR contenders ride this race with around 3 sprint-stages usually

T-A can get slightly diluted by some sprinters choosing P-N instead, though that varies from year to year. Some years P-N sprints can be a joke.
 
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As an Australian, I think that two things should be banned from sporting events, opening ceremonies, mascots, theme music of events etc etc...
1) Kangaroos
2) Didgeridoos.
 
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blaxland said:
Yeah TeamSkyFans i will be going to the Bathurst Criterium(NSW GP Series) to support the boys its on Wednesday night at 8pm.My money will be on Sutton from Sky....or My Mate Renshaw.

Renshaw won't be there, he's at a team camp in America until the 16th. The women start at 6:15 and the men start at 7:00. There is also heavy rain forcast for wednesday afternoon. That'll make it interesting with one of the corners. I might try to get a picture up of it.

It'll be an awesome race nonetheless.
 
woodie said:
Renshaw won't be there, he's at a team camp in America until the 16th. The women start at 6:15 and the men start at 7:00. There is also heavy rain forcast for wednesday afternoon. That'll make it interesting with one of the corners. I might try to get a picture up of it.

It'll be an awesome race nonetheless.

Its been raining up here for the last two weeks and yes the roads are terrible at the moment...
 
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woodie said:
http://www.deanwindsor.com/page715.html

Thats a review of the course from a couple of our riders. Check out turn three, it goes from being flat to going onto a sudden rise, its gunna be hectic if anyone goes through the wrong line.

thats a cracking preview he's done for bathurst.

Just checked the forecast. Possible thunderstorms during the race
 
The Hitch said:
They say that heroin is like the kiss of god, but that the low that comes after is the worst thing in the world.

These people should try cycling. The early season is an almighty high, but the severity of the low is present on this thread for all to see.

People on here are looking forward to the Tour Down Under,:confused: The Tour down under:eek: , even though it’s a month and a half away.

For shame.

This is obviously because of the low I'm in right now.
Looking forward to a boring snoozefest with nice bunchsprints. To me it's just the start of the season which I can't wait for.
I won't be watching the TDU live, but I will certainly watch any vid of the last km if they come online.
 
Kwibus said:
This is obviously because of the low I'm in right now.
Looking forward to a boring snoozefest with nice bunchsprints. To me it's just the start of the season which I can't wait for.
I won't be watching the TDU live, but I will certainly watch any vid of the last km if they come online.

I don't know if they are showing any of it live. I know there was talk of it because of the growth of the event but i haven't heard anything since. I think the only stages they showed live of the 2010 event was the Cancer council classic and the final stage.
 
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Matthijs said:
Freire no topsprinter? why did he win MSR 3 times? Tireno-Adriatico is also a sprint-fest: most MSR contenders ride this race with around 3 sprint-stages usually
Since 2007 I have not reffered to him as a pure bunch sprinter. Winning MSR 3 times requires great staying power and that's what he has and that is what has got him over the line in those sprints because he is the freshest of the field that can sprint.
El Imbatido said:
I don't know if they are showing any of it live. I know there was talk of it because of the growth of the event but i haven't heard anything since. I think the only stages they showed live of the 2010 event was the Cancer council classic and the final stage.

- Cancer Council Classic
- Stage 5 (wilunga stage)
- Stage 6 (final stage)

Will be the same nest year

Tomo hinted that SBS may be showing the tdu all live but I think that prospect is not going to happen. Shame they couldn't show the last hour live of each stage:(
 
Any race which has ProTour status should be forced to have live coverage of each stage.

As much as that sounds boring, I'd like to watch the race live during those few weekdays in summer.

No live coverage, slow results processing, this should be a feature of 2.1 races, not UPTs.
 
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But this is Australia! We fight progessiveness (eg if this NBN gets 100% completed I'll eat my cycing cap), remember?

Ah the first major race for the season. I love the sight of bickering about how lame flat stage races are and how suddenly just by existing, races are too big for their own boots. Really, I hadn't read it at all last season, its quite shocking to see people having a ****ing contest with different races.
 
TeamSkyFans said:
Not really. five days of highlights having to listen to phil and paul spouting nonsense, and then staying up till silly o clock two nights in a row to watch a snooze fest.

NSW GP Crit series next weekend anyway, meant to be highlights of the first three and live coverage of the last two.

Dim, I fear you're forgetting it's a certain person's retirement tour. P'n'P will be at their fawning worst.
 
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Roland Rat said:
Dim, I fear you're forgetting it's a certain person's retirement tour. P'n'P will be at their fawning worst.
I hadnt forgotten, in fact we have bought a new mic so tsf can overdub the commentary videos..
 
ingsve said:
T-A can get slightly diluted by some sprinters choosing P-N instead, though that varies from year to year. Some years P-N sprints can be a joke.

The biggest joke of a sprinting field in a top tier race this year was the Volta a Catalunya. Nicolas Roche, Ryder Hesjedal and Daniel Moreno all got in the top 10 of stage 2 (won by Cavendish), Paul Voss won the sprint for 3rd in stage 4 ahead of Michel Kreder and David Loosli (Daniel Moreno and IGOR ANTÓN got into the top 10 there!!!), stage 6 was an uphill sprint won by Samuel Dumoulin ahead of Rein Taaramäe and Joaquím Rodríguez, and the field sprint in the final stage featured Nic Roche in 3rd.

I love the Volta a Catalunya!
 
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woodie said:
http://www.deanwindsor.com/page715.html

Thats a review of the course from a couple of our riders. Check out turn three, it goes from being flat to going onto a sudden rise, its gunna be hectic if anyone goes through the wrong line.

Nice review. I will be quite honest and say series like this one in NSW and the Bay Crit series here in Melbourne/Geelong excite me more than the TDU.

Sprinters races should be all over within an hour. What's the point of stringing the inevitable out over four hours or more.
 
M Sport said:
Nice review. I will be quite honest and say series like this one in NSW and the Bay Crit series here in Melbourne/Geelong excite me more than the TDU.

Sprinters races should be all over within an hour. What's the point of stringing the inevitable out over four hours or more.

To cover as much territory as possible so that you can go from the big cities into the mountains in 1 or 2 stages. In my eyes, its not much of a tour of (x) if they do 50 km then fly the next 150 over night.
 
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The Hitch said:
To cover as much territory as possible so that you can go from the big cities into the mountains in 1 or 2 stages. In my eyes, its not much of a tour of (x) if they do 50 km then fly the next 150 over night.

Big cities? Mountains? We are talking about the TDU?
 
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TeamSkyFans said:
Big cities? Mountains? We are talking about the TDU?

That's right, I did mean the Tour Down Under, not the Tour de France. Maybe Hitch just misunderstood my post.
 
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The Hitch said:
To cover as much territory as possible so that you can go from the big cities into the mountains in 1 or 2 stages. In my eyes, its not much of a tour of (x) if they do 50 km then fly the next 150 over night.

Riders clearly have said that they don't want long transfers. The transfers from city to city and to be able to cover some mountains in australia would simply be not possible. The transfers themselves would be longer than the ones in any GT.
 

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M Sport said:
Nice review. I will be quite honest and say series like this one in NSW and the Bay Crit series here in Melbourne/Geelong excite me more than the TDU.

Sprinters races should be all over within an hour. What's the point of stringing the inevitable out over four hours or more.

Well, you can make the case that due to the longer race certain lesser sprinters are not that fresh anymore and cannot sprint as well. This way only those that are in the better shape have the biggest chances, if you shorten the stages a lot more riders would feel fit enough to sprint.

This is a possible rationale, but I don't believe it holds that much water, especially not in a professional field.

Another reason might be to have more cities and regions within one tour which could increase their revenue. But they would nver do something just for the money ;)
 
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Barrus said:
Well, you can make the case that due to the longer race certain lesser sprinters are not that fresh anymore and cannot sprint as well. This way only those that are in the better shape have the biggest chances, if you shorten the stages a lot more riders would feel fit enough to sprint.

This is a possible rationale, but I don't believe it holds that much water, especially not in a professional field.

Another reason might be to have more cities and regions within one tour which could increase their revenue. But they would nver do something just for the money ;)

Also a longer stage is more useful as training, because most of the riders are there for just that.
 

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Liquigas:

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Kristjan Koren
Davide Cimolai
Simone Ponzi
Alan Marangoni
Fabio Sabatini
Elia Viviani


Nice gesture from Liquigas with Wulf on 1. as a replacement for Pegasus absentee Mc Ewen

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Absentee for McEwen? Robbie was at Katusha not Liquigas so no idea where you're coming from.
 

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