2010 Delhi Commonwealth Games - Road racing

[tgsgirl]

So where does the Commonwealth Games RR stand in the WGAF scale of 1-10?

Worlds RR/Monuments = 10
Olympics RR/other classics = 9
Semi classics (K-B-K etc) = 8
Strade Bianchi etc = 7
Espoirs' Paris-Roubaix = 6
Commonwealth RR = 5?

2, as in no one gives a ****?

 

[Jamsque]

The Commonwealth Games really are spectacularly irrelevant, and the City of Melbourne lost some spectacular number of millions of dollars hosting them last time.

 

[Roland Rat]

The Commonwealth Games really are spectacularly irrelevant, and the City of Melbourne lost some spectacular number of millions of dollars hosting them last time.

And is the Commonwealth really something we should be proud of any more? After all, there wasn't much "common" about the wealth we acquired from it!

 

[Spare Tyre]

The Commonwealth Games really are spectacularly irrelevant, and the City of Melbourne lost some spectacular number of millions of dollars hosting them last time.

Possibly. But they were great fun and the atmosphere in Melbourne was fabulous (warm, friendly, an excited buzz). Some events, like road cycling and triathlon, were free and accessible to anyone who was interested. The Games also incorporated a popular cultural program of music and art. I hadn't looked forward to the Games at all, but was delightfully surprised. I'm still glad we lost the bid for the 1996 Olympics, though.

The F1 grand prix loses us a spectacular number of millions of dollars every year, and appeals to a much smaller segment of the population.

 

[Mambo95]

So where does the Commonwealth Games RR stand in the WGAF scale of 1-10?

Worlds RR/Monuments = 10
Olympics RR/other classics = 9
Semi classics (K-B-K etc) = 8
Strade Bianchi etc = 7
Espoirs' Paris-Roubaix = 6
Commonwealth RR = 5?

It barely registers, to be honest. (And Espoirs PR isn't a 6 surely). The big names in the GB track team are doing the European Champs instead.

However, the 2002 Commonwealth games was the first time I became aware of Cadel Evans (won the TT and 2nd to O'Grady in the Road Race).

It's more a race for emerging talent really. Although the Aussies are sure to have a strong team.

 

[Sasquatch]

As soon as this country becomes a republic, we won't need to worry about the Queen, Govenor Generals and the Comm Games.

But unfortunately, no one wants Australia to become a republic.

People's Republic of Australia - much better political environment IMO.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

So where does the Commonwealth Games RR stand in the WGAF scale of 1-10?

Worlds RR/Monuments = 10
Olympics RR/other classics = 9
Semi classics (K-B-K etc) = 8
Strade Bianchi etc = 7
Espoirs' Paris-Roubaix = 6
Commonwealth RR = 5?

honestly i would rate the commonwealth RR like a 2 (generous) at best. The CW games are such a snoozefest.

 

[abbaskip]

I think Davis might be there and mat hayman will probably want to defend his title.
A good thing about the Commonwealth games is that the british countries actually have to compete by themselves and not join as one force like in the olympics which is totally stupid.

Actually, the country/nation (regardless of what Brits will try to tell you, and who plays Rugby and Football/Soccer), is the United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...

So at the Olympics they represent their nation. At the Comm Games they don't.

The Olympic committee, and the UN use REAL countries, where as Comm Games needs more teams to compete...And in Football/Soccer the nations just want to compete separately, and are allowed to (they're not competing in the 2012 London Olympics because of the fear that if they play as a combined Britain there, FIFA will make them always combine).

And the password is for the United Kingdom of Great Britan and Northern Ireland.

Large parts of Scotland are actually campaigning for their independence. And there is always an issue, that the smaller 'nation states'/principalities Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc, have their own parliarments for a fair chunk of their rules (as American and Australian states do too), but England doesn't. This means that issues effecting only England can be voted for by the Scottish representitives in the British parliament for instance.

David Cameron is the BRITISH Prime Minister, not the English PM. It is the BRITISH Army, not the English/Scottish etc Army. etc etc.

The interesting one is actually the Isle of Man (as people have mentioned, probably unknowingly with Cav). The Isle of Man is a self governing British dependency. The Isle of Man is not actually part of the United Kingdom, and so shoudn't REALLY compete with them at the Olympics etc...It is a grey area though, because they're also not technically a nation in their own right. Basically they're a British posession.

It also annoys me when the Olympics etc refer to the competing nation as "Great Britain". As this excludes Northern Ireland, and only includes the part of the UK on the main island. The "British Isles" are Ireland, Great Britain, and the channel islands etc. But "Great Britain" is the main island.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Actually, the country/nation (regardless of what Brits will try to tell you, and who plays Rugby and Football/Soccer), is the United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...

So at the Olympics they represent their nation. At the Comm Games they don't.

The Olympic committee, and the UN use REAL countries, where as Comm Games needs more teams to compete...And in Football/Soccer the nations just want to compete separately, and are allowed to (they're not competing in the 2012 London Olympics because of the fear that if they play as a combined Britain there, FIFA will make them always combine).

And the password is for the United Kingdom of Great Britan and Northern Ireland.

Large parts of Scotland are actually campaigning for their independence. And there is always an issue, that the smaller 'nation states'/principalities Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc, have their own parliarments for a fair chunk of their rules (as American and Australian states do too), but England doesn't. This means that issues effecting only England can be voted for by the Scottish representitives in the British parliament for instance.

David Cameron is the BRITISH Prime Minister, not the English PM. It is the BRITISH Army, not the English/Scottish etc Army. etc etc.

The interesting one is actually the Isle of Man (as people have mentioned, probably unknowingly with Cav). The Isle of Man is a self governing British dependency. The Isle of Man is not actually part of the United Kingdom, and so shoudn't REALLY compete with them at the Olympics etc...It is a grey area though, because they're also not technically a nation in their own right. Basically they're a British posession.

It also annoys me when the Olympics etc refer to the competing nation as "Great Britain". As this excludes Northern Ireland, and only includes the part of the UK on the main island. The "British Isles" are Ireland, Great Britain, and the channel islands etc. But "Great Britain" is the main island.

That is true but they also do consider Scotland, England, etc. as seperate countries also so you can see my point.

 

[Ferminal]

Actually, the country/nation (regardless of what Brits will try to tell you, and who plays Rugby and Football/Soccer), is the United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...

So at the Olympics they represent their nation. At the Comm Games they don't.

The Olympic committee, and the UN use REAL countries, where as Comm Games needs more teams to compete...And in Football/Soccer the nations just want to compete separately, and are allowed to (they're not competing in the 2012 London Olympics because of the fear that if they play as a combined Britain there, FIFA will make them always combine).

And the password is for the United Kingdom of Great Britan and Northern Ireland.

Large parts of Scotland are actually campaigning for their independence. And there is always an issue, that the smaller 'nation states'/principalities Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc, have their own parliarments for a fair chunk of their rules (as American and Australian states do too), but England doesn't. This means that issues effecting only England can be voted for by the Scottish representitives in the British parliament for instance.

David Cameron is the BRITISH Prime Minister, not the English PM. It is the BRITISH Army, not the English/Scottish etc Army. etc etc.

The interesting one is actually the Isle of Man (as people have mentioned, probably unknowingly with Cav). The Isle of Man is a self governing British dependency. The Isle of Man is not actually part of the United Kingdom, and so shoudn't REALLY compete with them at the Olympics etc...It is a grey area though, because they're also not technically a nation in their own right. Basically they're a British posession.

It also annoys me when the Olympics etc refer to the competing nation as "Great Britain". As this excludes Northern Ireland, and only includes the part of the UK on the main island. The "British Isles" are Ireland, Great Britain, and the channel islands etc. But "Great Britain" is the main island.

Yes of course the country is UKOGBANI, but ask any sports fan if they would prefer their "home" or their country to be representing them in international events.

I always enjoyed how Scotland are the bitter enemy in football/rugby, yet people like Andy Murray and David Coulthard are great British hopes.

 

[Anonymous]

I always enjoyed how Scotland are the bitter enemy in football/rugby, yet people like Andy Murray and David Coulthard are great British hopes.

Murray is british when he wins, scottish when he loses.

 

[Zerak-Tul]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9025907.stm

D:

Yeah that looks like a place any athlete would be dying to go to...

 

[Benotti69]

Actually, the country/nation (regardless of what Brits will try to tell you, and who plays Rugby and Football/Soccer), is the United Kingdon of Great Britain and Northern Ireland...

So at the Olympics they represent their nation. At the Comm Games they don't.

The Olympic committee, and the UN use REAL countries, where as Comm Games needs more teams to compete...And in Football/Soccer the nations just want to compete separately, and are allowed to (they're not competing in the 2012 London Olympics because of the fear that if they play as a combined Britain there, FIFA will make them always combine).

And the password is for the United Kingdom of Great Britan and Northern Ireland.

Large parts of Scotland are actually campaigning for their independence. And there is always an issue, that the smaller 'nation states'/principalities Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc, have their own parliarments for a fair chunk of their rules (as American and Australian states do too), but England doesn't. This means that issues effecting only England can be voted for by the Scottish representitives in the British parliament for instance.

David Cameron is the BRITISH Prime Minister, not the English PM. It is the BRITISH Army, not the English/Scottish etc Army. etc etc.

The interesting one is actually the Isle of Man (as people have mentioned, probably unknowingly with Cav). The Isle of Man is a self governing British dependency. The Isle of Man is not actually part of the United Kingdom, and so shoudn't REALLY compete with them at the Olympics etc...It is a grey area though, because they're also not technically a nation in their own right. Basically they're a British posession.

It also annoys me when the Olympics etc refer to the competing nation as "Great Britain". As this excludes Northern Ireland, and only includes the part of the UK on the main island. The "British Isles" are Ireland, Great Britain, and the channel islands etc. But "Great Britain" is the main island.

about time they dropped the 'Great' from it though

 

[Ferminal]

Murray is british when he wins, scottish when he loses.

That's the spirit.

 

[Anonymous]

That's the spirit.

Its the same as anything in the English press, When Will Hoy won gold it was "briton wins gold", when he crashed it was "Scot Hoy has crashed". The ENglish press are amazing

 

[53 x 11]

I just love that these events give some (namely one) Australian an excuse to demonstrate his supreme ignorance when it comes to other cultures, countries and anything in general that extends beyond the southern suburbs of Melbourne.

Personally I love that these game are being held in India. For once they might have some kind of personality and interest.

I also hold both Aus and GB citizenship and I can say with all honestly that all the petty bickering is just that. Grow up.

 

[Andy99]

I just love that these events give some (namely one) Australian an excuse to demonstrate his supreme ignorance when it comes to other cultures, countries and anything in general that extends beyond the southern suburbs of Melbourne.

Personally I love that these game are being held in India. For once they might have some kind of personality and interest.

I also hold both Aus and GB citizenship and I can say with all honestly that all the petty bickering is just that. Grow up.

Post of the day.

 

[happychappy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/commonwealth_games/delhi_2010/9025907.stm

D:

Yeah that looks like a place any athlete would be dying to go to...

Absolute ****hole of a country.

 

[Anonymous]

I think any country where 90% of the population live in poverty should not be spending millions on a sporting event. Simple as that! I for one, wont be watching.

 

[Cowgirlup]

As soon as this country becomes a republic, we won't need to worry about the Queen, Govenor Generals and the Comm Games.

The bolded part isn't exactly correct. Even if we become a republic we will still remain part of the British commonwealth and still compete in the Comm games. Eg, India is a republic which is hosting the 2010 games.

 

[Tugboat]

I think any country where 90% of the population live in poverty should not be spending millions on a sporting event. Simple as that! I for one, wont be watching.

Millions? How about in excess of $6 billion! These are the most expensive games ever but what is there to show for that money? A few greedy, corrupt individuals have very well lined pockets and that's about it.

 

[Spare Tyre]

I have sympathy for the argument that sporting events are a ridiculous waste of money.

India might be a particularly stark example, but I'm sure the Beijing Olympics cost a pretty penny and there are plenty of poor people in China. For that matter, the money spent on the last Commonwealth Games in Melbourne could have gone to federal health & hospitals instead. There is plenty of poverty in the US, so perhaps we shouldn't have had the Atlanta Olympics. Oh, and Greece has got a few economic problems too, so perhaps ...

As for corruption, well in the good state of Victoria here in Australia, property developers seem to have a whole lot of behind doors clout not available to ordinary citizens. It might be on a smaller scale, but it's much the same thing.

I seriously wonder how much is truly dangerous and how much is media hype/drama and simply less than glossily perfect. We westerners have become very precious in recent times. It seems we can't walk around obstacles or avoid falling into holes, we see horror in bathrooms that need a bit of cleaning. One thing is for sure, we cannot tell the degree to which there is genuine risk by relying on the media.

 

[Boardslide]

I seriously wonder how much is truly dangerous and how much is media hype/drama and simply less than glossily perfect. We westerners have become very precious in recent times. It seems we can't walk around obstacles or avoid falling into holes, we see horror in bathrooms that need a bit of cleaning. One thing is for sure, we cannot tell the degree to which there is genuine risk by relying on the media.

Here are some more up todate photo's of the accomodation from the IOM advance party. Not looking as bad as reported.

http://www.iomtoday.co.im/sport/Manx-team-on-their-way.6549209.jp

 

[The Hitch]

One thing is for sure, we cannot tell the degree to which there is genuine risk by relying on the media.

+ 1

He who reads doesnt read the newspaper is uninformed. He who does read the newspaper is uninformed - Mark Twain.

And back then, the media was far more honourable and had more quality than it does these days

for corruption, well in the good state of Victoria here in Australia, property developers seem to have a whole lot of behind doors clout not available to ordinary citizens. It might be on a smaller scale, but it's much the same thing.

There is corruption in Western COuntries, but it is absolutely nothing compared to the third world, where organised criminals can bribe governments into effectively legalising the most vile and brutal crimes. I laughed when in this country we had the expenses scandal and everyone thought this was a real corruption problem. 10 mps who earn i would say pretty low salaries for their jobs, taking a few thousand pounds to buy duck food is a expected loss, not a corruption scandal.

have sympathy for the argument that sporting events are a ridiculous waste of money.

India might be a particularly stark example, but I'm sure the Beijing Olympics cost a pretty penny and there are plenty of poor people in China. For that matter, the money spent on the last Commonwealth Games in Melbourne could have gone to federal health & hospitals instead. There is plenty of poverty in the US, so perhaps we shouldn't have had the Atlanta Olympics. Oh, and Greece has got a few economic problems too, so perhap

Yep sporting events are a ridiculous waste of money. I love watching cycling and often other sports, but the obsession the world has with sport is sick. Too many people suffer as a result. Look just this year at South Africa, how many people were kicked out of shanty towns, so that rich western footballers and tourists wouldnt see what poverty looks like.

THis is however minor compared to the number of babies and ill people who have died and will continue to die because a very poor country decided to divert billions of dollars to build big stadiums. - here.

But i am open minded. I dont want to take away these sporting events. All i ask is that some of the millions that the big companies, nike, cocacola, the aparatchicks - Sepp Blatter, the athletes get/ win from these sporting events is given back to the societies which have been drained for it.

Unfortunately Spains captain Iker Casillias was asked before he won the world cup if he would perhaps give some of his winning money to poor people. His responce was basically _ off. here
He was joined by all in his proffesion who were asked, including his predecesor as world cup captain who said it was ridiculous that people would want to give money to poor people instead of giving it all to him. here

 

[Torrrr]

Its the same as anything in the English press, When Will Hoy won gold it was "briton wins gold", when he crashed it was "Scot Hoy has crashed". The ENglish press are amazing

It's no different to the Scottish press, it's always the Scot David Millar but the Britons Mark Cavendish and Bradley Wiggins.