2011 Criterium du Dauphine - Prologue: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne, 5.4km

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You don't have to be in top shape here, but if you can't make Top 15 here, there's no way you will be able to battle for Top 5 in July

History disagrees with you.

There have been TDF winners that didn't even finish top 40 here (while participating) and went on to win the Tour

 

[Moondance]

Somehow that doesn't work

There's always the one I made for you a few pages back.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Damn Samu wasnt too bad. I hope hes not peaking too early.





Unfortunately i too believe Gesink will get 1-2 minutes head start on Evans Contador, Sanchez, Vino, maybe even Basso.



+1

Definately not.
Will get a head start maybe, but with seconds, not minutes. Maybe a minute/1.30 on the worst teams..
TTT is too short for that.

 

[Bavarianrider]

History disagrees with you.

There have been TDF winners that didn't even finish top 40 here (while participating) and went on to win the Tour

Names please?

 

[roundabout]

Names please?

Landis

 

[maxmartin]

To quote Basso: "I don't have bad form, I have no form"

The crash was quite bad and he hasn't been able to train properly in quite a while

it is not just the crash, i remember he has this weird disease a few months ago, very bad stomach pain.

The thing is what is going to be Liquidgas strategy in the tour? If basso can not get any better at all

 

[roundabout]

it is not just the crash, i remember he has this weird disease a few months ago, very bad stomach pain.

The thing is what is going to be Liquidgas strategy in the tour? If basso can not get any better at all

Get Sagan to finish second to Gilbert on early stages.

Send Guarnieri and/or Viviani to get something in the sprints.

Chase breaks.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Unfortunately i too believe Gesink will get 1-2 minutes head start on Evans Contador, Sanchez, Vino, maybe even Basso

I don't think the gap will be quite that big, but I'd like it to be. The best thing that could happen from an exciting racing point of view would be for Contador to start out in a hole to one or more of the podium candidates. Anything to stop him and Schleck watching each other through the mountains.

 

[Moondance]

Unfortunately i too believe Gesink will get 1-2 minutes head start on Evans Contador, Sanchez, Vino, maybe even Basso.

Two minutes seems like too much for any decent team to lose over 23kms, unless there is a complete disaster (which happened to quite a few teams in 2009).

The Giro TTT this year was just under 20 kms, and the largest gap there was something like 1'10", and that was between the HTC-Armada and the Basques, who had 7 nobodies besides Nieve and Anton (neither of whom are time-trialists).

1 minute is the absolute maximum gap I'll expect between decent teams.

 

[El Pistolero]

Wot? Like your boy, last year you mean?....................Oh wait.

Brad Wiggins mechanical problems?.........Bit of damp on that downhill roundabout, judging by the way he tiptoed around the last one.

Your post would make sense if it wasn't the fact that you know, he came second.

Nice try though.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Names please?

Floyd Landis 2006
60.

LANDIS Floyd PHO 57'06" 5

Sastre 2008
20.

SASTRE CANDIL Carlos CSC 12'20" 20
(not top 15 right...)

Ofcourse, both Armstrong and Contador are riders that do well in the dauphine always. But it's definately not "required" to finish top 15 or anywhere near good in the GC to win or finish high in the Tour
In fact, if the question was which top 10 contendors finished outside the top 15 in the dauphine the list is endless

It's a basic rule that you shouldn't stare yourself blind at prep races

 

[El Pistolero]

Lol Floyd Landis.

If you don't feel good at Dauphine(being able to do at least top 15) your screwed. Although a lot of contenders don't try too hard in races like Suisse and Dauphine, so their result doesn't automatically say how good they are at that moment.

In Basso's case however, I don't think it will be for this year if his Dauphine is at the same level of his prologue.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

what you mean lol?? haven't seen anyting as impressive as that stage he took yellow again. btw is it up for download anywhere?? doping or not that was inhuman

 

[Bavarianrider]

Floyd Landis 2006
60.

LANDIS Floyd PHO 57'06" 5

Sastre 2008
20.

SASTRE CANDIL Carlos CSC 12'20" 20
(not top 15 right...)

Ofcourse, both Armstrong and Contador are riders that do well in the dauphine always. But it's definately not "required" to finish top 15 or anywhere near good in the GC to win or finish high in the Tour
In fact, if the question was which top 10 contendors finished outside the top 15 in the dauphine the list is endless

It's a basic rule that you shouldn't stare yourself blind at prep races

Of course but you have to be in a decent shape at least. 06 and 08 are not the ebst examples. 08 was the Cera year and 06 blod transfusions. With those bumps you can gain form much quicker.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Of course but you have to be in a decent shape at least. 06 and 08 are not the ebst examples. 08 was the Cera year and 06 blod transfusions. With those bumps you can gain form much quicker.

just admitt you are wrong

my god you are becoming the biggest idiot on this forum quicker than average teen girl in detroit gets pregnant

 

[El Pistolero]

what you mean lol?? haven't seen anyting as impressive as that stage he took yellow again. btw is it up for download anywhere?? doping or not that was inhuman

It's all on youtube.

And yes lol, he totally cracked that Tour and then magically returned. Not due to his form, but due to massive doping.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

yeah sure massive doping. how come he wasn't caught with epo or 50%+? it was some doping and mostly power of the mind

anyway, pls give a link to youtube because I can't find the stage there

 

[Bavarianrider]

just admitt you are wrong

my god you are becoming the biggest idiot on this forum quicker than average teen girl in detroit gets pregnant

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

bad xtc my friend?

 

[El Pistolero]

yeah sure massive doping. how come he wasn't caught with epo or 50%+? it was some doping and mostly power of the mind

anyway, pls give a link to youtube because I can't find the stage there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCRhzrSRA0

It's not a summary(just beginning is)

 

[Bavarianrider]

Why is there no thread for tomorrow by the way?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHCRhzrSRA0

It's not a summary(just beginning is)

thanks!! not on in dutch commentary right?? still better than nothing

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Seems Gesink hit a snag in his preparation:

RGUpdate Robert Gesink



De plaatselijke Rugby-club (die van onder mijn hotelkamerraam) had van mij de competitie niet hoeven winnen! #Kappenmetdieherrie


translation: "The local rugby team (the one from under my hotel windows) should not have won the competition if it was up to me! #stopwiththenoise

 

[Wanabanko]

Evans will win this Dauphine, if he don't win, it will be Gesink or Brajko.

 

[Moondance]

Why is there no thread for tomorrow by the way?

To state the obvious: Because noone has written one. You don't think those threads just appear out of thin code, do you?

Why don't you start the thread?