2011 Criterium du Dauphine - Stage 2: Voiron - Lyon (179 km)

[kanari]

Me too. Clearly Degenkolb is faster than EBH.

Why is this so clear? They just were head to head in Bayern, won one stage each on flat sprints.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Too bad Degenkolb can't go to the Tour

 

[taiwan]

Well Bavarianrider called it in the second post. Might have helped that Degenkolb is a German on HTC though.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Well Bavarianrider called it in the second post. Might have helped that Degenkolb is a German on HTC though.

Where was Hagen today by the way. Had no chance to watch it

 

[taiwan]

I haven't seen it yet myself. Was there a mechanical for Hagen possibly?

 

[Gloin22]

Hagen got mechanical on the last 20km.

 

[euanli]

EBH had a mechanical just before the second group rejoined the peloton after the split. No chance in getting back in. I think if Wiggins managed 14th, EBH would have been a lot higher up.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Thanks

 

[El Pistolero]

Once again, Lulu had a flat. Or at least, that's what D. Nelissen said.

He's been having flats all season it seems.

 

[meandmygitane]

I dont think Rodriguez is doing the Tour.

OK,it seems you are right. Last autumn he said he was aiming for Vuelta&Tour and this spring he said Giro&Vuelta.

So if nothing changes I guess we'll have to count him out...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Neo Pro CQ ranking 2011:
1. Matthews 471
2. Degenkolb 376
3. Kittel 374
4. Guardini 257
5. Ligthart 255

Where did Matthews pick up those 95 extra points?

 

[Moondance]

Neo Pro CQ ranking 2011:
1. Matthews 471
2. Degenkolb 376
3. Kittel 374
4. Guardini 257
5. Ligthart 255

Where did Matthews pick up those 95 extra points?

Matthews got quite a lot for the 4th GC slot in the Tour Down Under, well over 100 if I recall.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Wow. Wiggins actually decreased his advantage over Evans and Vino by 6 seconds. He finished 13th. Impressive.

vino was in first group

 

[maltiv]

Me too. Clearly Degenkolb is faster than EBH.
The only question was would he survive the "ramp" and he did.

What do you base this upon? They were as fast at Bayern where Edvald was just coming back from injury. I don't see how Degenkolb's wins against lesser sprinters this season proves that he is "clearly" faster. EBH has beaten every sprinter except from Cavendish in normal sprints. At Degenkolb's age, 22, EBH won a completely flat bunch sprint in T-A against Petacchi, Tyler Farrar etc.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Ha Hagen sucks, even Theo Bos has already beaten Cavendish in a straight up duel twice

 

[maltiv]

Ha Hagen sucks, even Theo Bos has already beaten Cavendish in a straight up duel twice

Well Theo Bos is the fastest sprinter in the world so I don't see how that's "even". If only he had some endurance as well...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You just answered your question yourself.

If some enduranceless, climbing worse than quaranta, sprinter can beat Cavendish, then...all hope is lost for Hagen!
thanks for taking the bait tho

 

[Tuarts]

Well done Degenkolb - for those in the prediction game - get your predictions in for tomorrows stage please!

 

[maltiv]

You just answered your question yourself.

If some enduranceless, climbing worse than quaranta, sprinter can beat Cavendish, then...all hope is lost for Hagen!
thanks for taking the bait tho

I don't understand. Of course Bos can win races that either are extremely short, don't include hills or have an average speed of 30 km/h. Anyway, I just remembered that EBH beat Cavendish in stage 4 of TDF, so hope is once again restored to mankind!

 

[oevkride]

EBH hit a hole in the road with 15k to go. Got a flat front tire and a busted rear wheel.

 

[Kwibus]

Shame I wasn't able to get back home from work in time to watch the finish.

Decided to wait for the first vids, but I couldn't hold back anymore. Nice one by Degenkolb it seems.
I feel bad for EBH though... a finish that suits him and than he gets a mechanical. He is quite unlucky indeed.

 

[Christian]

So Degenkolb is pretty much even with Haedo palmarès-wise now

 

[El Pistolero]

So Degenkolb is pretty much even with Haedo palmarès-wise now

And almost up there with Andy Schleck

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Degenkolb for the win

Good call.

So do we have a nickname for Degenkolb? We have several for Galimzyanov (Ghengis, The Cossack). We need one for the Deg Man.

Searched the following thread and did not find one for him:
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=1622&highlight=nickname

 

[cineteq]

Good call.

The guy's german...that was his only choice