2011 - Criterium du Dauphine - Stage 3: Grenoble 42.5 km ITT

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May 12, 2010
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Bavarianrider said:
Cause it was even crapier last year? Come on you can't seriously defend his position.

Why can't you? So far this season his time trials have been excelent, I don't see what some footage of a wet descend changes about that.
 
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Bavarianrider said:
Cause it was even crapier last year? Come on you can't seriously defend his position.

i am pretty sure you are not and expert in aerodynamics and don't have an wind tunnel at home where you can test this stuff.

it might look bad but it works and thats what matters
 
Apr 7, 2011
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Lanark said:
Why can't you? So far this season his time trials have been excelent, I don't see what some footage of a wet descend changes about that.

His upper body is weigh too high, come on you don't need to be a areodynamics doctor to recon this.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Bavarianrider said:
Cause it was even crapier last year? Come on you can't seriously defend his position.
Yes I do defend a position which improved him from going nowhere in prologues and mediocre in long time trials to this year getting him on the podium of races as the Tirreno and Pais Vasco :rolleyes:

For every rider a different position works best. It might look funny but it works. So seriously go take your crap elsewhere or start a thread about it. Just talk about the race here instead of always ****ing on every other rider except Germans
 
May 12, 2010
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El Pistolero said:
Did that Eurosport guy really just say Samu Sanchez is not a GC man anymore?

Lol yeah, he said that he expected him around place 15 in the Tour, because his best days as a GC rider are behind him :eek:
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Yes I do defend a position which improved him from going nowhere in prologues and mediocre in long time trials to this year getting him on the podium of races as the Tirreno and Pais Vasco :rolleyes:

For every rider a different position works best. It might look funny but it works. So seriously go take your crap elsewhere or start a thread about it. Just talk about the race here instead of always ****ing on every other rider except Germans


I am not ignoring anyone. I am discussing the position of a rider in the race. If that's not ok, i don't know:confused:
 
May 20, 2009
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1. Tony Martin (HTC) 58:22
2. Edvald Boasson Hagen (Sky) a 43
3. David Zabriskie (Garmin-Cervélo) a 58
4. Adriano Malori (Lampre-ISD) a 2:04
5. Jeremy Roy (FDJ) a 2:37
6. Rigoberto Urán (Sky) a 2:41
7. Brian VAndborg (Saxo Bank-Sungard) a 2:53
8. Maxime Bouet (AG2R) a 2:54
9. Lieuwe Westra (Vacansoleil) a 3:01
10. Thibaut Pinot (FDJ) a 3:05
 
Zinoviev Letter said:
I doubt if Evans is particularly concerned about the form of Wiggins, Zabriskie, Cancellara, Martin or other time trial specialists who will be no threat at all to him in the Tour. Why would he care if those guys put minutes into him in an ITT as long as he's performing well relative to the real GC men?

Depends who you refer to as the real GC men.
 
Jul 16, 2010
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Lanark said:
Lol yeah, he said that he expected him around place 15 in the Tour, because his best days as a GC rider are behind him :eek:

Quite funny as these commentators appear to be huge Gesink fanboys to me LOL.
 
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Lanark said:
Lol yeah, he said that he expected him around place 15 in the Tour, because his best days as a GC rider are behind him :eek:

I think he was confusing him with someone else cause the other guy subtly corrected him
 
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lol europcar's aero helmet uses the same things as golf balls to be more effective
 
May 20, 2010
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Dimples.

Also just calling someone's position unaero is a unsophisticated measure. You can look aero and go nowhere fast.

A good TT position is a compromise between biomechanics, stamina and aerodynamics. What works for some won't for others. Anyone who simplifies it to a rider just looking too high shows themselves not to be qualified to critique someone's bike position.
 
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euanli said:
Dimples.

Also just calling someone's position unaero is a unsophisticated measure. You can look aero and go nowhere fast.

A good TT position is a compromise between biomechanics, stamina and aerodynamics. What works for some won't for others. Anyone who simplifies it to a rider just looking too high shows themselves not to be qualified to critique someone's bike position.

:rolleyes: