2011 Tour de France Stage 1: Passage du Gois - Mont des Alouettes 191.5 km

[Ramira]

Does anyone have a clue what happened with Barredo.

Everyone is at either 6 seconds or 1 minute 20 except Barredo, for some reason he's 26 seconds behind?

 

[seaby71]

This is bike racing people. Often fair does not come into it. Luck has always cost or won many bike races. Alberto has been lucky that he has been riding the past year. Now unlucky to loose the tour after day one. This will now be one of the best tours in history
excitment guaranteed

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

what a nice sarcastic post about contador the invincible.

Another insightful classic. So you can declare Schleck invincible due to a 74 second bonus, but if I suggest that infact it is possible that a man with a proven track record and clear strengths might be able to overhaul that gap, it is infact me calling someone invincible.

Also, the 2 minute statement really isn't controvertial - I think finishing within 2 minutes on that course would be a good result for Andy.

 

[dlwssonic]

I have a stupid question...

Would Hushovd technically be in Polkas tomorrow, or would no one wear it?

32 GILBERT Philippe OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO 4h 41' 31"
32 GILBERT Philippe OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO 45 pts
worn by 141 EVANS Cadel BMC RACING TEAM 35 pts
32 GILBERT Philippe OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO 1 pts
worn by 51 HUSHOVD Thor TEAM GARMIN - CERVELO
117 THOMAS Geraint SKY PROCYCLING 4h 41' 37"
OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO 14h 04' 45"

 

[jobiwan]

I have a stupid question...

Would Hushovd technically be in Polkas tomorrow, or would no one wear it?

Gilbert was the only one to get points, I believe. We probably won't see Polka for a couple stages. I MAY BE WRONG though.

EDIT: Seems I may be wrong. But Hushovd wearing the Polka without any points would seem rather odd, no?

 

[auscyclefan94]

Lets all take a deep breath and act civilly!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Timmy. WTF.





So when Gesink is 2.25 its all right to call the Tour over for him.

BUT

When someone calls Samu down with almost exactly the same time and the same conclusion is reached.



Its "Dont be so dramatic".

It's cos Timmy secretly believes Samu is much better than Gesink and will be able to claw that time back easily, so you're whining, whereas Gesink won't and therefore it's justified to be maudlin.

 

[The Hitch]

Of course not, I don't say it's right either. Just throwing out some things that might be going into this decision without giving any judgement on their merit.

That being said yea I do believe losing time for Samu and Contador is right. You get stuck behind a crash in the finale you lose time it's like that in every single stage race I've ever seen. Is it fair? No. Is it cycling? Yes.

So they deserve to lose the 40 seconds they lost thanks to the 2k crash but the guys in the 2k crash dont?

 

[valentius borealis]

They're more likely to have been mechanicals caused by the earlier crash - takes a few mins to get serviced so they ride on into the 3k.

I forgot about that factor. Van de Velde also had this situation.

 

[No_Balls]

Contador,

He has the CAS decision hanging over his head not to mention people are saying he's the greatest cyclist of all time, not to mention no matter what Andy does he'll get cheered and no matter what Alberto does he'll get booed.

As a fan to Baby Schleck all you ever do is writing about Contadors whereabouts?

Why don´t you support Baby given his advantage today rather then try to write down Alberto in every single post?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'm sorry but this doesn't make sense. Why is everybody given the 6 seconds time? Why not the same as Evans or Gilbert for that matter? Because the 6 seconds group was NOT the main group, it was either the one behind that or the one behind that one. The crash victims should be given that time and not the 6 seconds time. The guys finishing at 6 seconds rode away from the main group. If rules are rules, they should be applied consistantly. Well, that's how i feel about it.

 

[hfer07]

I have a stupid question...

Would Hushovd technically be in Polkas tomorrow, or would no one wear it?

please go to the TDF questions thread

 

[luckyboy]

So they deserve to lose the 40 seconds they lost thanks to the 2k crash but the guys in the 2k crash dont?

Yeah this is really ****ed up.

 

[Delicato]

So, if Saxo leaves the starthouse as the first team, what about weather forecasts for tomorrow? Rain, wind? Who knows, AC can lose, or actually gain some time tomorrow.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Timmy. WTF.





So when Gesink is 2.25 its all right to call the Tour over for him.

BUT

When someone calls Samu down with almost exactly the same time and reaches the same conclusion



Its "Dont be so dramatic".

go look at other posts, I continuously said that this was still entertaining. Although I would have been upset that gesink lost time, I still like this sort of racing.

Please post everything next time, not just items that suit your point.

Gesink was presumably going to be at 3-4 minutes down as his time hadn't come up. So the fight for podium wasn't looking good.

Again 1.20 is not that bad.

The tour is not over.

so yeah, 1.20 isn't the same as potentially 5 minutes. But whatever.

 

[dlwssonic]

Another insightful classic. So you can declare Schleck invincible due to a 74 second bonus, but if I suggest that infact it is possible that a man with a proven track record and clear strengths might be able to overhaul that gap, it is infact me calling someone invincible.

Also, the 2 minute statement really isn't controvertial - I think finishing within 2 minutes on that course would be a good result for Andy.

if contador was serious about the tour he would have ridden the last few km properly and not stroll in. And no he wasnt conserving energy.

 

[Ferminal]

Gilbert was the only one to get points, I believe. We probably won't see Polka for a couple stages. I MAY BE WRONG though.

EDIT: Seems I may be wrong. But Hushovd wearing the Polka without any points would seem rather odd, no?

It sure would. He probably wouldn't wear it in the TTT anyway. But changing in Rainbows for a classification which you equal last in on points...

 

[jobiwan]

So they deserve to lose the 40 seconds they lost thanks to the 2k crash but the guys in the 2k crash dont?

I would agree with this, a bit unfair even though it's the rules. (And even though it helps Andy )

 

[KassyC]

Thomas de Gendt has gone to hospital with collarbone worries

Oh man, he's my favorite!!! Hope he's ok.
I was hoping (possibly dreaming) for a random stage win from him somewhere!

 

[Scansorial]

Wasn't the 3rd group delayed by the 2nd group's crash? How can you give the 2nd group the benefit of the 3km rule there, but not the 3rd group? The 3rd group was ~40 seconds down there, not 1:20.

People who were caught behind the spectator crash do deserve to lose time (you have to be near the front in that situation), but you can't selectively enforce the 3km rule.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Why did Contador stop chasing in the end? Did he seriously think he was going to get the same time gaps as the peleton?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I'm sorry but this doesn't make sense. Why is everybody given the 6 seconds time? Why not the same as Evans or Gilbert for that matter? Because the 6 seconds group was NOT the main group, it was either the one behind that or the one behind that one. The crash victims should be given that time and not the 6 seconds time. The guys finishing at 6 seconds rode away from the main group. If rules are rules, they should be applied consistantly. Well, that's how i feel about it.

It's the time of the group you were riding in at the time of the crash. Gesink, Andy and Wiggins were all riding in the group with Hushovd, Rojas etc. when they crashed, so they are treated as part of that group.

They are not given the time of Gilbert or Evans because Gilbert and Evans left that group and finished solo, so no longer constituted part of the group. This is why they do not enforce this rule on MTFs, when groups splinter to individuals and it becomes unenforcable.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

It's cos Timmy secretly believes Samu is much better than Gesink and will be able to claw that time back easily, so you're whining, whereas Gesink won't and therefore it's justified to be maudlin.

nice

I do believe Samu is still a great chance for podium to be honest. I think there is time to be lost in the next week at every corner.

Anyway, truth be told when Gesink's results still hadn't shown on the system when riders were coming in close to 3 minutes, I feared he may have badly injured himself again(and thus why he didn't get a bike from team mate or something... I forgot it wouldn't show up on the system.

 

[dlwssonic]

So they deserve to lose the 40 seconds they lost thanks to the 2k crash but the guys in the 2k crash dont?

I have to agree with luckboy and you.

 

[Ramira]

So they deserve to lose the 40 seconds they lost thanks to the 2k crash but the guys in the 2k crash dont?

No they don't and if I had the power I would put them behind whatever time they were when they caught up with the 2k crash. But I'm almost certain the rules don't allow that. It's not fair, but it is cycling and by the 'rules', and it's only because of the magnitude of this race it's suddenly questioned.