2011 Vuelta a España Stage 17: Faustino V --> Peña Cabarga 211,0 km

[theyoungest]

just come back from a long trip.downloaded the stage.goosebumps.
i've never seen something like that since '96.real battles between real men.
chapeau froome and cobo,my goodness what a battle.astonishing

Not since '96? Just one example: Contador vs. Rasmussen.

 

[Tank Engine]

Obviously overshadowed by the first two today, but an acknowledgement for the ride today by Bruseghin. Right on KoM's wheels for the Cat 2 on a breakaway, after being caught he was one of the first to attack on the bottom of the climb, bridging across to Dan Martin very quickly, and then still had enough left to finish 7th, ahead of most of those ahead of him in the overall.

And all while the rest of his team were pulling out with stomach problems, which makes one wonder how well he could have been feelig if he had the same food last night.

+1. Bruseghin has been one of the major animators over the past few days. Chapeau for Dan Martin also for attacking at the bottom of the climb and holding off for 4th.

 

[Kwibus]

Unfortunately, a lot of us are like that. I have personally become very cynical.
Until I see power output numbers, I question everyone placing significantly higher than before.

It hurts though, allthough this might sound a bit too dramatic. I love this sport, but everytime someone shines I get suspicious. Sometimes I wonder why I watch it when I think about it, but my love for this sport is too big

 

[theyoungest]

It hurts though, allthough this might sound a bit too dramatic. I love this sport, but everytime someone shines I get suspicious. Sometimes I wonder why I watch it when I think about it, but my love for this sport is too big

It also seems to be part of the charm of this sport, as it's never been otherwise, but I've always loved it

 

[mr. tibbs]

I really hope Froome wins this. ACF had his time in the sun in July, and I'd love for Dim to get to ride the GT train for a bit, too.

 

[jens_attacks]

Not since '96? Just one example: Contador vs. Rasmussen.

ok i was a bit too excited but today froome would have dropped both contador and rasmussen

look at that alien face behind cobo:

 

[El Pistolero]

ok i was a bit too excited but today froome would have dropped both contador and rasmussen

look at that alien face behind cobo:

I very much doubt Froome could drop an in form Contador.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Fictional young rider classification classification

1. Bauke Mollema (RAB) 69h 33' 46''
2. Wouter Poels (VCD) + 03' 38''
3. Dan Martin (GRM) + 05' 17''
4. Kevin Seeldraeyers (QST) + 08' 45''
5. Robert Kiserlovski (AST) + 15' 11''
6. Eros Capecchi (LIQ) + 18' 17''
7. Guillaume Bonnafond (ALM) + 24' 29''
8. Jan Bakelandts (OLO) + 42' 10''
9. Fabio Andrés Duarte (GEO) + 53' 32''
10. Steven Kruiswijk (RAB) + 01h 11' 10''
11. Dominik Nerz (LIQ) + 01h 11' 13''
12. Davide Malacarne (QST) + 01h 44' 18''
13. Tanel Kangert (AST) + 01h 58' 03''
14. Beñat Inxausti (MOV) + 01h 59' 07''
15. Angel Madrazo (MOV) + 02h 04' 25''
16. Damiano Caruso (LIQ) + 02h 05' 42''
17. Andrew Talansky (GRM) + 02h 06' 24''
18. Tom Jelte Slagter (RAB) + 02h 08' 39''
19. Mathias Frank (BMC) + 02h 28' 50''
20. Gert Dockx (OLO) + 02h 29' 59''
21. Pim Ligtart (VCD) + 02h 41' 29''
22. Simon Geschke (SKS) + 02h 51' 57''
23. Yoann Bagot (COF) + 03h 04' 54''
24. Nelson Oliveira (RSH) + 03h 06' 04''
25. Peter Sagan (LIQ) + 03h 06' 15''
26. Steve Houanard (ALM) + 03h 15' 50''
27. Ian Stannard (SKY) + 03h 19' 24''
28. Jonas Aaen Jörgensen (SBS) + 03h 27' 15''
29. Julien Fouchard (COF) + 03h 29' 02''
30. John Degenkolb (THR) + 03h 44' 24''
31. Martijn Keizer (VCD) + 03h 50' 29''
32. Leigh Howard (THR) + 03h 51' 24''
33. Sep Vanmarcke (GRM) + 03h 55' 22''
34. Matthias Brändle (GEO) + 03h 56' 11''
35. Jaroslaw Marycz (SBS) + 04h 02' 38''
36. Nicolas Maes (QST) + 04h 06' 14''
37. Antonio Cabello (ACG) + 04h 23' 39''
38. Alexandre Geniez (SKS) + 04h 24' 50''

 

[El Pistolero]

Fictional young rider classification classification

1. Bauke Mollema (RAB) 69h 33' 46''
2. Wouter Poels (VCD) + 03' 38''
3. Dan Martin (GRM) + 05' 17''
4. Kevin Seeldraeyers (QST) + 08' 45''
5. Robert Kiserlovski (AST) + 15' 11''
6. Eros Capecchi (LIQ) + 18' 17''
7. Guillaume Bonnafond (ALM) + 24' 29''
8. Jan Bakelandts (OLO) + 42' 10''
9. Fabio Andrés Duarte (GEO) + 53' 32''
10. Steven Kruiswijk (RAB) + 01h 11' 10''
11. Dominik Nerz (LIQ) + 01h 11' 13''
12. Davide Malacarne (QST) + 01h 44' 18''
13. Tanel Kangert (AST) + 01h 58' 03''
14. Beñat Inxausti (MOV) + 01h 59' 07''
15. Angel Madrazo (MOV) + 02h 04' 25''
16. Damiano Caruso (LIQ) + 02h 05' 42''
17. Andrew Talansky (GRM) + 02h 06' 24''
18. Tom Jelte Slagter (RAB) + 02h 08' 39''
19. Mathias Frank (BMC) + 02h 28' 50''
20. Gert Dockx (OLO) + 02h 29' 59''
21. Pim Ligtart (VCD) + 02h 41' 29''
22. Simon Geschke (SKS) + 02h 51' 57''
23. Yoann Bagot (COF) + 03h 04' 54''
24. Nelson Oliveira (RSH) + 03h 06' 04''
25. Peter Sagan (LIQ) + 03h 06' 15''
26. Steve Houanard (ALM) + 03h 15' 50''
27. Ian Stannard (SKY) + 03h 19' 24''
28. Jonas Aaen Jörgensen (SBS) + 03h 27' 15''
29. Julien Fouchard (COF) + 03h 29' 02''
30. John Degenkolb (THR) + 03h 44' 24''
31. Martijn Keizer (VCD) + 03h 50' 29''
32. Leigh Howard (THR) + 03h 51' 24''
33. Sep Vanmarcke (GRM) + 03h 55' 22''
34. Matthias Brändle (GEO) + 03h 56' 11''
35. Jaroslaw Marycz (SBS) + 04h 02' 38''
36. Nicolas Maes (QST) + 04h 06' 14''
37. Antonio Cabello (ACG) + 04h 23' 39''
38. Alexandre Geniez (SKS) + 04h 24' 50''

You got to be ****ed huh

Oh well, just pretend the combinadas is a youth jersey. Mollema is leading that I think.

 

[theyoungest]

ok i was a bit too excited but today froome would have dropped both contador and rasmussen

look at that alien face behind cobo:

Oh dear, jens_attacks is a Froome fan... the kiss of death for any rider's clean reputation

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Just for the record;

As far as my calculations goes, Froome did an average VAM of 2285 m/hr for the last k. Just impressive.

Just imagine the VAM during the quite long acceleration. Does anybody have a time between flamme rouge and 500 meters to go for Froome?

 

[roundabout]

Unfortunately, a lot of us are like that. I have personally become very cynical.
Until I see power output numbers, I question everyone placing significantly higher than before.

I'm curious about the power numbers as well. It was a pretty fast climb. 17.15 or so to climb the official 545 meters.

Edit: about 20 seconds slower for the whole climb than last year

 

[Winterfold]

Clinic issues or not - that was fecking awesome racing.

Chapeau to both of them. I cannot believe Cobo got back on, and then Froome got back past him once he'd gone past. That is all mental strength, and not much else.

Brilliant. For a GT to have a Fleche Wallone finish between the 1 and 2 GC guys like that is simply awesome.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You got to be ****ed huh

Oh well, just pretend the combinadas is a youth jersey. Mollema is leading that I think.

No Mollema leads the points classifcation now.

 

[Tank Engine]

You got to be ****ed huh

Oh well, just pretend the combinadas is a youth jersey. Mollema is leading that I think.

No, 2nd to Cobo, but is wearing the white jersey because Cobo is in red. However, tomorrow Bauke will be wearing the Green jersey as of right.

Edit: Oh, Dekker just beat me to it

 

[Swede1]

Clinic issues or not - that was fecking awesome racing.

Chapeau to both of them. I cannot believe Cobo got back on, and then Froome got back past him once he'd gone past. That is all mental strength, and not much else.

Brilliant. For a GT to have a Fleche Wallone finish between the 1 and 2 GC guys like that is simply awesome.

Yeah Cobo was freakin awesome today. He looked soooo tired at the finish. Good he didnt try to block Froome against the barrier at the end, and instead let Froome have a chance at the win.

So is it going to be Sky's job to haul back in breaks now? Doesnt seem smart for Geox to pull in a break. Looks like there is still more exciting racing to come.

 

[Hartog]

No, 2nd to Cobo, but is wearing the white jersey because Cobo is in red. However, tomorrow Bauke will be wearing the Green jersey as of right.

Edit: Oh, Dekker just beat me to it

Actually, Froome passed Mollema for second in the combinada. On the green, does anyone think he schould try to keep it? He has 26 points on Sagan, and with the reduced sprinters field he could pick up a few more points.

 

[Forunculo]

Fictional young rider classification classification

1. Bauke Mollema (RAB) 69h 33' 46''
2. Wouter Poels (VCD) + 03' 38''
3. Dan Martin (GRM) + 05' 17''
4. Kevin Seeldraeyers (QST) + 08' 45''
5. Robert Kiserlovski (AST) + 15' 11''
6. Eros Capecchi (LIQ) + 18' 17''
7. Guillaume Bonnafond (ALM) + 24' 29''
8. Jan Bakelandts (OLO) + 42' 10''
9. Fabio Andrés Duarte (GEO) + 53' 32''
10. Steven Kruiswijk (RAB) + 01h 11' 10''
11. Dominik Nerz (LIQ) + 01h 11' 13''
12. Davide Malacarne (QST) + 01h 44' 18''
13. Tanel Kangert (AST) + 01h 58' 03''
14. Beñat Inxausti (MOV) + 01h 59' 07''
15. Angel Madrazo (MOV) + 02h 04' 25''
16. Damiano Caruso (LIQ) + 02h 05' 42''
17. Andrew Talansky (GRM) + 02h 06' 24''
18. Tom Jelte Slagter (RAB) + 02h 08' 39''
19. Mathias Frank (BMC) + 02h 28' 50''
20. Gert Dockx (OLO) + 02h 29' 59''
21. Pim Ligtart (VCD) + 02h 41' 29''
22. Simon Geschke (SKS) + 02h 51' 57''
23. Yoann Bagot (COF) + 03h 04' 54''
24. Nelson Oliveira (RSH) + 03h 06' 04''
25. Peter Sagan (LIQ) + 03h 06' 15''
26. Steve Houanard (ALM) + 03h 15' 50''
27. Ian Stannard (SKY) + 03h 19' 24''
28. Jonas Aaen Jörgensen (SBS) + 03h 27' 15''
29. Julien Fouchard (COF) + 03h 29' 02''
30. John Degenkolb (THR) + 03h 44' 24''
31. Martijn Keizer (VCD) + 03h 50' 29''
32. Leigh Howard (THR) + 03h 51' 24''
33. Sep Vanmarcke (GRM) + 03h 55' 22''
34. Matthias Brändle (GEO) + 03h 56' 11''
35. Jaroslaw Marycz (SBS) + 04h 02' 38''
36. Nicolas Maes (QST) + 04h 06' 14''
37. Antonio Cabello (ACG) + 04h 23' 39''
38. Alexandre Geniez (SKS) + 04h 24' 50''

I'm not friend of this competition, if you se 2000s Tdf young champions sometimes you will see average riders over stars today. Of course Mollema isn't gonna be an average rider but it's not a solid proof to me

 

[Reverend_T_Preedy]

Chris Froome and Mo Farah: are there any British endurance athletes who are not East African?

Dan Martin

 

[Reverend_T_Preedy]

And winning the Dauphine and 3rd in the Vuelta, if he holds onto it, is no big deal? Wow... forget it. I'm apparently talking to a crazy person.

Plus 3rd in Paris Nice.

I think Wiggins has had a very good season so far. In fact, if you look at CQ ranking, it's his most successful season to date.

 

[roundabout]

I'm not friend of this competition, if you se 2000s Tdf young champions sometimes you will see average riders over stars today. Of course Mollema isn't gonna be an average rider but it's not a solid proof to me

In the last 15 years or so the only TdF white jersey winners without a GT podium finish are Salmon and Karpets and you can add Cunego and Popovych I suppose as they had their podium finishes before winning the white jersey.

 

[Kwibus]

Oh dear, jens_attacks is a Froome fan... the kiss of death for any rider's clean reputation

lol indeed.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I'm not friend of this competition, if you se 2000s Tdf young champions sometimes you will see average riders over stars today. Of course Mollema isn't gonna be an average rider but it's not a solid proof to me

Average white jersey winners like Ivan Basso, Denis Menchov, Alberto Contador and Andy Schleck in the TDF 2000s?

 

[egtalbot]

Wow. Just got to watch this. Unreal, I was screaming at the video and I don't even care who wins the race.

I'll remember this one for a while.

 

[hrotha]

Average white jersey winners like Ivan Basso, Denis Menchov, Alberto Contador and Andy Schleck in the TDF 2000s?

Popovych!

No wait, he's below average right now.