2011 Vuelta a Espana Stage 10: Salamanca ITT, 47km (28/9)

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Sorry I don't believe in Menchov.

I even think he is gonna lose more time in the time trial instead of gaining back.

 

[theyoungest]

Sorry I don't believe in Menchov.

I even think he is gonna lose more time in the time trial instead of gaining back.

He seems to have more or less the same form as in the Giro... not bad, not great either. And his TT there was absolutely awful. So indeed, I don't see him taking back time on the likes of Bradley Wiggins.

But Mollema and VDB2, and possibly Nibali, should be well within his reach.

This post makes Denis Menchov sad.

That's not fair, he's showing his happy face!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Sorry I don't believe in Menchov.

I even think he is gonna lose more time in the time trial instead of gaining back.

But you name 10 people there, you think he can't even top 10?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

That's not fair, he's showing his happy face!

He's showing his face, I'll give you that. Menchov doesn't really do "expressions"...

 

[hrotha]

Sorry I don't believe in Menchov.

I even think he is gonna lose more time in the time trial instead of gaining back.

Could be, but when you take into account the time he lost in the TTT and due to that mechanical, it turns out he's done exceedingly well in those finishes that don't suit him, and yesterday he was up there. He could conceivably win time on all the favourites except maybe Wiggins today, and he could conceivably climb better than all of them too. He's definitely a threat.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Realistically Wiggins, Nibali or Fuglsang will get the red jersey after today.

I think the battle for the overall is already down to 3/4 men even if still so many are within 1'30 of the leader.
Wiggins and Nibali are now my top favorites. I don't believe anymore in Scarponi or Rodriguez.
Mollema and Vandenbroeck are the next to think of after Wiggins and Nibali
Dan Martin maybe if he can limit the damage in the time trial.
Fuglsang already lost 50 seconds yesterday so he will lose minutes on the other tough mountain stages. So after the TT he will fall back automatically.

So in order of likelyhood, end winner of Vuelta:
Wiggins/Nibali
Mollema/Vandenbroeck
Dan Martin
others (from Fuglsang/Rodriguez/Scarponi to Kessiakoff/Cobo etc)

Sadly I agree with you. Menchov is too far back. He'll need to win the TT today and take big time for me to truely consider him.

 

[gilbertador]

Didnt realise Kesiakoff was such a good tt er i can really see him top 5 by the end, his tour of Austria finall tt and general form appear to be excellent

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I have a suspicion that Haimar Zubeldia will be in the top 5 tonight.

I think that it may be possible that, because of working together to limit losses, Taaramäe/Zubeldia/Menchov/Kessiakoff might actually be a bit fresher than Wiggins. Wiggins will beat them in the ITT still, but they might just be able to limit the losses enough to make things interesting.

 

[Mellow Velo]

I have a suspicion that Haimar Zubeldia will be in the top 5 tonight.

So do I.
Radio Shack's new, Basque version of the Freiburg Phantom.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I have a suspicion that Haimar Zubeldia will be in the top 5 tonight.

I think that it may be possible that, because of working together to limit losses, Taaramäe/Zubeldia/Menchov/Kessiakoff might actually be a bit fresher than Wiggins. Wiggins will beat them in the ITT still, but they might just be able to limit the losses enough to make things interesting.

What have you been on? Zubeldia - hasn't really done a great tt for a while.

I kinda want Menchov to do something special tonight. I have a soft spot for the Silent Assasin.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

What have you been on? Zubeldia - hasn't really done a great tt for a while.

I kinda want Menchov to do something special tonight. I have a soft spot for the Silent Assasin.

Radioshack, Basque, first Vuelta to visit Basque country in 30 years, 9th on GC at 42". We also haven't really seen Zubeldia ride for himself in a long time either. I see Rodríguez and Moreno as sitting ducks, and he's on the same time as Seeldraeyers and I'd expect him to beat him too. Which just leaves 1 person ahead of him to target.

Mollema has 42". Nibali has 33". Kessiakoff has 24". Fuglsang has 5".

All of them are decent ITTers but Zubeldia only needs to have a good day and he'll pass at least a couple of them. Behind him, only Wiggins and Monfort are direct, definite threats - the next bunch of ITT-riding men are Brajkovic, 1'28" behind him, and Menchov, 1'36" behind him.

Wow, Menchov is only 1'18" back from Wiggins after all that! This could be more interesting than we thought - he could easily be still within 2 minutes after today...

 

[theyoungest]

What have you been on? Zubeldia - hasn't really done a great tt for a while.

His first pro win was in a TT last year

(granted, a very short one)

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yes I did forget to mention Menchov for the top 10, he'll probably be up there by the end of the race.
But as for now I don't see him as a real factor in this race. Unless he burns the road in the ITT today ofcourse

 

[auscyclefan94]

Radioshack, Basque, first Vuelta to visit Basque country in 30 years, 9th on GC at 42". We also haven't really seen Zubeldia ride for himself in a long time either. I see Rodríguez and Moreno as sitting ducks, and he's on the same time as Seeldraeyers and I'd expect him to beat him too. Which just leaves 1 person ahead of him to target.

Mollema has 42". Nibali has 33". Kessiakoff has 24". Fuglsang has 5".

All of them are decent ITTers but Zubeldia only needs to have a good day and he'll pass at least a couple of them. Behind him, only Wiggins and Monfort are direct, definite threats - the next bunch of ITT-riding men are Brajkovic, 1'28" behind him, and Menchov, 1'36" behind him.

Wow, Menchov is only 1'18" back from Wiggins after all that! This could be more interesting than we thought - he could easily be still within 2 minutes after today...

Zubeldia rode for himself at the tour this year.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Phinney is on course...

 

[Pharazon]

doesn't look like there are any splits :/

 

[AussieGoddess]

cant go past Canc for the win.

Brad will be a bit tired from the effort yesterday .... more so that Fab and Tony anyway.

Brad will get red though, but I think Nibali will still win overall

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

doesn't look like there are any splits :/

Plenty of splits. Phinney has an incredible 58 seconds lead after only 13.3 km

1 33 Phinney 17:40
2 45 Saramotins + 58
3 168 Nuyens + 1:48

It's here

 

[search]

Plenty of splits. Phinney has an incredible 58 seconds lead after only 13.3 km

1 33 Phinney 17:40
2 45 Saramotins + 58
3 168 Nuyens + 1:48

only 36 seconds faster than Wagner at the first split, that doesn't look that incredible anymore

 

[cineteq]

Weather throughout the day? Is it going to be consistent?
Thanks

 

[Captain_Cavman]

Cancellara ftw
A fresh Tony Martin should beat a fatigued Wiggins for second.
Menchov should top 5.
The two Radioshack guys should also be up there but haven't convinced with their form so top 10.
Nibali and Scarponi to be just outside the top 10. Purito to lose 5+ minutes to Wiggins.

 

[gilbertador]

Not sure i think 2.8 seconds a km already is fairly respectable, that equate to a lead of 2:10 at the end, its at least a good early marker

 

[hrotha]

Beaten by Keizer.

 

[theyoungest]

Kittel loses 2.31 to Phinney in the first 13 k... I know he's taking it easy but come on, that's a bit much.

 

[Carols]

Stage today:
Fabian
Tony Martin
Wiggo
Grabsch
Menchov

Nibali rides well and ultimately wins overall.