2012 Giro d'Italia, May 6th, stage 2: Herning → Herning, 206K

[killswitch]

Anyone know what has happened to Hermans 9'50 down?

 

[barn yard]

that's not respect, that's LEGS. look at how he really struggled during the sprint, he waited and waited behing hunter, and when he stood on the pedals the others were much faster.
i hope he can get a better condition in the next weeks.

in the last 400m he didnt have the legs, sure. but when he was trying to get a position in the train(s) he didnt have the respect - people were leaning all over him and pushing him around like a neo pro

 

[El Pistolero]

Are you playing dumb again, or shall I explain the reference?

I'm not making any comparison, just thought his comments were comically silly and deserved trotting out in the circumstances.

Personally, as much as I would like Phinney to be penalised, I'm not sure it would be very just given that happens all the time.

Because I really read that article of Roche

 

[Christian]

Anyone know what has happened to Hermans 9'50 down?

Apparently he is ill

http://twitter.com/#!/hermansben/status/198867284528336896

That guy cannot catch a break

 

[hrotha]

I'm not making any comparison, just thought his comments were comically silly and deserved trotting out in the circumstances.

Personally, as much as I would like Phinney to be penalised, I'm not sure it would be very just given that happens all the time.

Oh, I wouldn't want Phinney to be penalized per se, as I rather like the lad. But I think it's a pretty silly state of affairs, and the UCI should announce a no-tolerance policy on this kind of stuff and put an end to it.

 

[killswitch]

Apparently he is ill

http://twitter.com/#!/hermansben/status/198867284528336896

That guy cannot catch a break

Shame Hope he can recover in the next few days.

 

[Captain Sensible]

**** leadout, despite having 6 men left with 2.5km to go. If they'd have drilled it from there it would have been a much easier win, and a few people might have avoided hospital.

Thanks I see what you mean now.

 

[killswitch]

Oh, I wouldn't want Phinney to be penalized per se, as I rather like the lad. But I think it's a pretty silly state of affairs, and the UCI should announce a no-tolerance policy on this kind of stuff and put an end to it.

Such a rule should be enforced at the start of the season. Does any team protest against it (drafting) though?

 

[phanatic]

Nah, would have been unfair on the lad to lose the pink on a mechanical

 

[The Hitch]

half of his rivals were down due to Theo Bos falling

But by far the 2 strongest ones are Goss and Farrar, and they were there.

 

[El Pistolero]

What have Goss and Farrar done exactly this year?

 

[Christian]

epic lulz!!

 

[Parrulo]

Oh, I wouldn't want Phinney to be penalized per se, as I rather like the lad. But I think it's a pretty silly state of affairs, and the UCI should announce a no-tolerance policy on this kind of stuff and put an end to it.

May i ask what happened during this stage? I missed it.

 

[El Pistolero]

Oh, I wouldn't want Phinney to be penalized per se, as I rather like the lad. But I think it's a pretty silly state of affairs, and the UCI should announce a no-tolerance policy on this kind of stuff and put an end to it.

Nobody wants to see his favorite lose because of a mechanical or crash. There for, the judges turn a blind eye to this kind of drafting.

These guys train behind a derny all the time, do you really think drafting behind a car is a safety issue . I think it's a lot safer behind a car than in the middle of a peloton... Besides, don't you think the peloton is drafting behind TV motors half of the time in a final? Good luck getting back on your own power then.

 

[ophene]

Personally I think it's a disgrace to see the mechanics pretending to be doing something when we all know what's happening. If it were up to me I'd ban any sort of contact between cars and riders, except through bottles, and that only for up to a second.

A little consistency for these kinds of offences would be nice. I don't mind riders getting a little help after crashes and mechanicals, but I don't like how random the punishment, or lack thereof, seems to be..

 

[DominicDecoco]

How disappointing of Haedo. Not even close to anything. I don't even think he got caught up by the crash.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Andrew Talansky ‏ @andrewtalansky
Getting help from the car is not "cheating" for those of u saying that. Not Phinney's fault bike malfunctioned. He is the deserving leader

 

[hrotha]

Nobody wants to see his favorite lose because of a mechanical or crash. There for, the judges turn a blind eye to this kind of drafting.

These guys train behind a derny all the time, do you really think drafting behind a car is a safety issue . I think it's a lot safer behind a car than in the middle of a peloton... Besides, don't you think the peloton is drafting behind TV motors half of the time in a final? Good luck getting back on your own power then.

It's not mainly a safety issue, same way race radios are not mainly a safety issue. Which is why I compared them.

The actual issue is that cycling is a bike race, not a car race. Might as well get in the car to catch up.

 

[theyoungest]

Andrew Talansky ‏ @andrewtalansky
Getting help from the car is not "cheating" for those of u saying that. Not Phinney's fault bike malfunctioned. He is the deserving leader

He's right (obviously he's a proud American, but anyway).

Who really cares about this? Otherwise Geraint Thomas is in pink, hurray! They'll both be in the last bus come the second week anyway.

 

[The Hitch]

Neither is Renshaw yet he did better.

Even by your standards that is ridiculous.

You need to stop having such hatred for none belgian riders. Its really not their fault they were lucky enough to be born in better countries.

Thomas is more of a tter and prologue specialist. Renshaw is more of a sprinter, as evidenced by the fact that Renshaw has many sprint wins to his name including one last week, and a 2nd on Champs, where as Thomas came 2nd in the prologue yesterday,

You think you can understand?

 

[El Pistolero]

Even by your standards that is ridiculous.

You need to stop having such hatred for none belgian riders. Its really not their fault they were lucky enough to be born in better countries.

Thomas is more of a tter and prologue specialist. Renshaw is more of a sprinter, as evidenced by the fact that Renshaw has many sprint wins to his name including one last week, and a 2nd on Champs, where as Thomas came 2nd in the prologue yesterday,

You think you can understand?

Renshaw is not a sprinter. Clearly lacks the speed. He's a lead out man, can position him self well during a sprint, isn't slow either, so sometimes that gets him a win. His second place at the Champs was all because of the domination HTC train. Cancellara would have ended up in second place there as well and he's not a sprinter.

It's not hating, it's an observation and Renshaw clearly lacks speed to be a sprinter. What has a prologue to do with sprinting? Or leading someone out for that matter? Renshaw has done much better lead-outs for Cavendish than Geraint Thomas today and therefor I call him a better lead-out man.

Renshaw has many sprint wins to his name? Really? Where? I can count them on one hand.

You think you can understand?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

alright, i'll say it. Phinney should get a time sanction and a fine for the way his team car towed him. Agreed?

100%


......

 

[The Hitch]

Renshaw is not a sprinter. Clearly lacks the speed. He's a lead out man, can position him self well during a sprint, isn't slow either, so sometimes that gets him a win. His second place at the Champs was all because of the domination HTC train. Cancellara would have ended up in second place there as well and he's not a sprinter.

It's not hating, it's an observation and Renshaw clearly lacks speed to be a sprinter. What has a prologue to do with sprinting? Or leading someone out for that matter? Renshaw has done much better lead-outs for Cavendish than Geraint Thomas today.

Its not about Renshaw, you were trying to **** on Thomas, who you clearly hate with a passion, becuase he decided that an olympic gold medal was more prestigious than your beloved cobbles.

Yeah Renshaw did better in the sprint? Why, Because he is a more of a sprinter.

Maybe you will start ridiculing Thomas when he starts losing to Agnoli in the mountains.

I assume your justification will go something like this

It's not hating, it's an observation and Agnoli clearly lacks climbing skills to be a climber. What has a prologue to do with climbing?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

It was on TV his sprinting

 

[El Pistolero]

It's not mainly a safety issue, same way race radios are not mainly a safety issue. Which is why I compared them.

The actual issue is that cycling is a bike race, not a car race. Might as well get in the car to catch up.

Yet there's a lot more motor pacing going on than car pacing That's the real problem, not the subject you're addressing.