2012 Paris - Nice

[theyoungest]

Rolland and Pinot can't really TT, Taaramae and Peraud would be better options.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Taaramae & Peraud?

Sure. I'm assuming Coppel has made some progress since he rode his first Tour de France. He easily beat Taaramae last week. I hope he didn't peak too soon, though.

 

[Fetisoff]

What's the slop of Col D'Eze? Does Panzerwagon have a chance for a top10 in that timetrial??

Too bad Vino is not riding this

BTW - I still can't get over Schlecks towing somebody..... bloody priceless

 

[Kvinto]

What's the slop of Col D'Eze? Does Panzerwagon have a chance for a top10 in that timetrial??

Too bad Vino is not riding this

BTW - I still can't get over Schlecks towing somebody..... bloody priceless

 

[theyoungest]

What's the slop of Col D'Eze? Does Panzerwagon have a chance for a top10 in that timetrial??

Too bad Vino is not riding this

BTW - I still can't get over Schlecks towing somebody..... bloody priceless

I think Der Panzerwagen could in fact win that time trial.

 

[Fetisoff]

I think Der Panzerwagen could in fact win that time trial.

Kvinto: thanks for the profile.

Yeah, looking at that he can certainly top10 at the very worst, if not win it


//Fanboy mode on//
Hope Menchov comes into this race giving half a ****, because even off-form he should get a good result with this sort of a race
//Fanboy mode off//

 

[Lupetto]

For comparison, the results of 2001 and 2000.

Paris-Nice 2001, Nice - Col d'Eze ITT, 10.0 km
1 Dario Frigo (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 19.53 (30.176 km/h)
2 Raimondas Rumsas (Ltu) Fassa Bortolo 0.27
3 Jose Azevedo (Por) O.N.C.E. 0.41
4 David Moncoutie (Fra) Cofidis 0.43
5 Marcellino Garcia (Spa) CSC-World Online 0.44
6 Alex Zulle (Swi) Team Coast
7 Mario Aerts (Bel) Lotto-Adecco 0.48
8 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) Deutsche Telekom 0.53
9 Peter Van Petegem (Bel) Mercury-Viatel 1.08
10 David Etxebarria (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi

Paris-Nice 2000, Nice - Col d'Eze ITT, 10.0 km
1 Andreas Klöden (Ger) Deutsche Telekom 20.06
2 Laurent Brochard (Fra) Jean Delatour 0.17
3 Jonathan Vaughters (USA) Crédit Agricole 0.23
4 Dario Frigo (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 0.25
5 Wladimir Belli (Ita) Fassa Bortolo 0.27
6 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) Deutsche Telekom 0.29
7 Francesco Casagrande (Ita) Vini Caldirola 0.34
8 Grischa Niermann (Ger) Rabobank 0.37
9 Tomasz Brozyna (Pol) Banesto 0.38
10 Aitor Garmendia (Spa) Banesto 0.39

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Rolland and Pinot can't really TT, Taaramae and Peraud would be better options.

I think Rolland can do well, if he learns to time trial like he did in last years TDF rather than this years Etoile.

 

[gustienordic]

I think Rolland can do well, if he learns to time trial like he did in last years TDF rather than this years Etoile.

COPPEL but yeah Taarmae is a much better TTer than either of the others.

 

[greenedge]

Big contenders are also Leipheimer, Wiggins and Froome...

I agree. However Wiggins i don't think will go well on Mende ( things lit up on its' slopes in 07 ). I could envisage Froome however going well on it ( Pena Carbenga ). The fact that Leipheimer went so well at San Luis makes him favourite in my books. Valverde, Martin, Kloden, Sanchez and Rolland/ Coppel to also challenge.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Tony Martin will redeem Ulle all season long.
Paris Nice should be a walk in the park for Tony

 

[theyoungest]

I agree. However Wiggins i don't think will go well on Mende ( things lit up on its' slopes in 07 ). I could envisage Froome however going well on it ( Pena Carbenga ). The fact that Leipheimer went so well at San Luis makes him favourite in my books. Valverde, Martin, Kloden, Sanchez and Rolland/ Coppel to also challenge.

Reminds me of the Peña Carbenga Boys, with their famous hit "Boom boom boom boom, I want you Chris Froome".

 

[uphillstruggle]

So there is the a short time trial (basically a prologue), Mende (a punchy, short and steep climb) and a uphill time trial. Screams Valverde to me. Mende puts the guys like Wiggins and Martin out of the game.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

So there is the a short time trial (basically a prologue), Mende (a punchy, short and steep climb) and a uphill time trial. Screams Valverde to me. Mende puts the guys like Wiggins and Martin out of the game.

Kloden doesn't lose too much time on short, steep climbs (see: Pais Vasco where he was also Martin's equal in the hilly TT).

 

[EddytheBoss]

kloden win?!? are you kidding me

 

[Oliver]

Does Sammy Sanchez ride Paris-Nice?

 

[theyoungest]

kloden win?!? are you kidding me

What's weird about that?

 

[maltiv]

kloden win?!? are you kidding me

He won Pais Vasco last year and was 2nd in P-N...

 

[El Pistolero]

You can get second in a race while never having had a chance for the victory. That was the case for boring Klöden.

 

[EddytheBoss]

What's weird about that?

i think he is too passive for the major races today

 

[Kvinto]

the first part of Kloden's 2011 season was any but passive but if you watched the last year's Paris-Nice you should had noticed that even being passive you can win it

 

[uphillstruggle]

Kloden doesn't lose too much time on short, steep climbs (see: Pais Vasco where he was also Martin's equal in the hilly TT).

Yeah I think Kloden could win it but it's not who I'd bet on.

 

[Kvinto]

We have already labeled PN 2012 route as crappy one but maybe it isn't as crappy as we thought? All the profiles are available now:

http://www.letour.fr/2012/PNC/COURSE/us/100/etape_par_etape.html

From those we didn't know by now:

Stage 1. TT:

Stage 3:

Stage 2 is for sprinters, stage 6 maybe for a breakaway but this route isn't that bad.

 

[Kvinto]

And the end of stage to Rodez:

we knew that it finishes with a 500m 7.9% climb but that climb is before the finish. The last km is also 7.9%!

 

[roundabout]

It's probably *not* 7.9% as according to the profile 545m is higher than 578.

I suppose I should be more excited now that there's another uphill finish where only minimal time gains are possible at best (unless JTL will be riding )