2012 Tour de France: Stage 12: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne → Annonay Davézieux (226km)

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argyllflyer said:
You snidely suggested Bradley was unhappy with anti-doping messages. :rolleyes:

Lol, you idiot, I was 'snidely' suggesting that he'd rather not receive support from a confirmed doper! ^o^
 
Apr 29, 2009
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Arnolfini said:
Gave up, or decided not to start. Westra, Ruijgh and Mollema quit yesterday, Gesink decided not to start today.


What did Gesink do in a previous life? He must have been one bad dude. His luck must change soon you would think.
 
Jun 30, 2010
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I really hated today's stage. It was a stage that had exciting sprint finish written all over it. But the sprinters teams were simply to lazy to pull back the break. Last year with HTC this would never have happened they would have single handily pulled back the break.

This Tour really misses HTC. With HTC we would have likely seen a lot more order on the other sprint stages and less crashes. So sad as I think the sprint stages are the most exciting part of the Tour. I really hope Cav leaves Sky and goes to a team that can support him better.
 
May 28, 2010
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wirral said:
Looks like Goss penalised 30 points from official classification.

Ouch. That sure makes things a bit more challenging for him as far as green, eh? Reminds me of Cav/Hushovd going for that finish in '09 when Cav got relegated...
 
Mar 12, 2010
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Liquigas should send Goss some flowers or a bottle of wine... so little they have done for Sagan and such a big gap opened now, all thanks to this really bad move by Matt... it´s gonna be interesting now, OGE will be very eager to start reducing the gap again
 
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Old&slow said:
I really hated today's stage. It was a stage that had exciting sprint finish written all over it. But the sprinters teams were simply to lazy to pull back the break. Last year with HTC this would never have happened they would have single handily pulled back the break.

This Tour really misses HTC. With HTC we would have likely seen a lot more order on the other sprint stages and less crashes. So sad as I think the sprint stages are the most exciting part of the Tour. I really hope Cav leaves Sky and goes to a team that can support him better.

I totally agree. The HTC train in action was a wonder to behold and became my favorite part of the Tour.
 
Jun 30, 2010
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AtletiSK said:
Liquigas should send Goss some flowers or a bottle of wine... so little they have done for Sagan and such a big gap opened now, all thanks to this really bad move by Matt... it´s gonna be interesting now, OGE will be very eager to start reducing the gap again

I believe Goss only got reulagted to 7th moving Sagan up one spot and Goss down one spot. On a side point Greenedge should really be ashamed of themseves for not pulling back the break and giving Goss a chance at the win.
 
Mar 12, 2010
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Old&slow said:
I believe Goss only got reulagted to 7th moving Sagan up one spot and Goss down one spot.
yes, but he also got 30 points deduction so the gap now stands at 56 points instead of 26...
 
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AtletiSK said:
yes, but he also got 30 points deduction so the gap now stands at 56 points instead of 26...

Oh I did not notice that. I was assuming he got 7th place points. Oh a 30 point deduction not losing 7th place points.
That sure hurts.
 
Mar 12, 2010
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Old&slow said:
Oh I did not notice that. I was assuming he got 7th place points. Oh a 30 point deduction not losing 7th place points.
That sure hurts.
actually they added him the points for 7th and then cut 30 points
 
well i don't like millar but he was the strongest today from the breakaway no doubt.nice to hear that he respected the memory of tommy simpson

i wanted kiserlovski to get this or gautier,didn't happen

so how fast was this huh?
too bad for the the first two climbs where we've seen some unexpected action even wiggo making one of his 100 meters spinning moves
one thing is certain,la kernasse is gonna burn the pyrennees big time.
 
May 23, 2010
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Michael Rogers posted on Twitter that he and Richie Porte got booed by many Australians yesterday. Australian's don't boo other Australians unless they have taken a dislike to them for some reason.

I am not sure if it

1. They don't want to see the race won the way SKY is winning it and see MR and RP are the main contenders to the race being won this way as the domestiques.


Or 2 The other reason, which is forbidden to be talked about here which assists them in doing number 1 above.
 
Cowgirlup said:
Michael Rogers posted on Twitter that he and Richie Porte got booed by many Australians yesterday. Australian's don't boo other Australians unless they have taken a dislike to them for some reason.

I am not sure if it

1. They don't want to see the race won the way SKY is winning it and see MR and RP are the main contenders as the domestiques.


Or 2 The other reason, which is forbidden to be talked about here which assists them in doing number 1 above.
Ehh...or the obvious one: because they were chasing down an attack by fellow Australian Cadel Evans. D'uh.
 
May 23, 2010
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Ehh...or the obvious one: because they were chasing down an attack by fellow Australian Cadel Evans. D'uh.


There is no D'uh in the situation at all. Not all Australian's like Cadel Evans so seeing him being chased down may not cause a whole heap of distress for many Australian Tour fans.


Or however, it could very well be the reason for the booing.
 
Cowgirlup said:
Michael Rogers posted on Twitter that he and Richie Porte got booed by many Australians yesterday. Australian's don't boo other Australians unless they have taken a dislike to them for some reason.

I am not sure if it

1. They don't want to see the race won the way SKY is winning it and see MR and RP are the main contenders to the race being won this way as the domestiques.


Or 2 The other reason, which is forbidden to be talked about here which assists them in doing number 1 above.


it's the first one of course.jens is still hated by some germans even now for chasing ullrich back in 2004:eek:


mick and richie just did their job.a helluva job.
 
May 21, 2010
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Geraint Too Fast said:
I see Veelers abandoned today. Argos-Shimano are going to be totally anonymous for the rest of the race.

Was impressed with Veelers.....next few years Veelers-Kittel the new renshaw-Cav ?
 
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User Guide said:
Was impressed with Veelers.....next few years Veelers-Kittel the new renshaw-Cav ?

I never understood John degenkolb non-selection, it seems to me to they put all the bet on Kittel. Argos tour is a huge disappointment.
 
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maxmartin said:
I never understood John degenkolb non-selection, it seems to me to they put all the bet on Kittel. Argos tour is a huge disappointment.
They said Degankolb had had a very busy spring and was too young to do the Tour, will ride the Vuelta as Worlds prep.