2012 Tour de France: Stage 2: Visé → Tournai (208km)

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c&cfan said:
cav is legendary. no train.. comes from 50th position with 1km to go, greipel with a perfect lead out and cav just explodes and wins.

Ok lets face facts, Farrar, Kittel, Griepel, Goss, Renshaw............are all second best to Cav.
 
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Red Rick said:
Sagan in green?

YEP

1. SVKSAGAN Peter 57 LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE 78 pts
2. GBRCAVENDISH Mark 103 SKY PROCYCLING 63 pts
3. SUICANCELLARA Fabian 12 RADIOSHACK-NISSAN 55 pts

Actually decent result by Veelers, he got 4th. Could only wonder what could Kittel do if he wasn't sick
 
Jul 1, 2012
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Veelers 4th! Surprising.

Smart from Cav to choose the wheel of Freire because he is good at sprinting without train.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Red Rick said:
Sagan in green?

Yes.

1. SVK
SAGAN Peter 57 LIQUIGAS-CANNONDALE 78 pts
2. GBR
CAVENDISH Mark 103 SKY PROCYCLING 63 pts
3. SUI
CANCELLARA Fabian 12 RADIOSHACK-NISSAN 55 pts
4. AUS
GOSS Matthew Harley 204 ORICA GREENEDGE 52 pts
5. NOR
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 102 SKY PROCYCLING 42 pts
 
Sep 9, 2009
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El Pistolero said:
I've actually never seen someone say Cav can't win without a train. So please stop saying that.

Plenty of July mongs say it, several times each year.

Where did Sagan finish? How was his speed?

If he can't top 5 sprint stages, he can't win green.

6th, so Sagan 15 points ahead of Cav.
 
May 14, 2010
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Cav continues to slay his detractors, one by one and in groups. These trainless victories are especially enjoyable.
 
Mar 12, 2009
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Look how more exciting a sprint is when there is no HTC train. When it's like this I don't even mind that Cav won.
 
Apr 1, 2009
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El Pistolero said:
I've actually never seen someone say Cav can't win without a train. So please stop saying that.

erm there are pages and pages on all sorts of threads here. He cant win, he'll be sacraficed for Wiggins etc etc. Dont be revisionist, dont be a poor sport
 
Feb 16, 2010
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burning said:
Yeah, he was 30th or something 700-800m to go, then suddenly he got Greipel's wheel, crazy bike skills by him
he just said he used Oscar F as his train to get to Greipel.
 
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I actually think Cav can do just as well without Eisel and EBH in front of him. He's so good at positioning himself.
 
Feb 29, 2012
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
Plenty of July mongs say it, several times each year.

Where did Sagan finish? How was his speed?

If he can't top 5 sprint stages, he can't win green.

He was 5th or 6th as far as I can see
 
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Farrar pull the Anti-Cav. Perfect position to terrible.

Small team sprinters pushed and can't fight for himself.

Argg!
 
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TourOfSardinia said:
he just said he used Oscar F as his train to get to Greipel.

Youngster outsmarting the old legend, even Freire is my fav sprinter, hats off to Cav
 
May 27, 2012
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ingsve said:
Look how more exciting a sprint is when there is no HTC train. When it's like this I don't even mind that Cav won.

I agree with this. Don't mind seeing him a win a sprint like that at all. It wasn't handed to him on a plate. He earned every inch if it.
 
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FignonLeGrand said:
Cav told him to have a go himself, cos he knew a leadout of one wouldnt help

Heard that. Wonder what EBH thought about that: Cav must think I suck as a lead-out man.;)
 
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FignonLeGrand said:
erm there are pages and pages on all sorts of threads here. He cant win, he'll be sacraficed for Wiggins etc etc. Dont be revisionist, dont be a poor sport

Lol they said he couldn't win because his speed diminished. Not that he can't win without a train.

Don't be a revisionist your self ;)

It's obvious to anyone Cav's chances to win increase with a train, but he can still win without.

Cut the crap.