Same overall time as TJ, but they count back the placings in the stages to break a tie. And CVV moved just ahead in this finish. This happened yesterday too.SafeBet said:Someone can explain the logic behind Vande Velde taking the jersey?
http://usaprocyclingchallenge.com/stages/2012/stage-4BillytheKid said:They have to back over that pass tomorrow. The finish in Beaver Creek will be shorter and reportedly steeper. I've seen no profile however?
How did you figure that grade %? Sounds more like 7.5% based on what I could find.MajorTom said:great win for Danielson!
The last climb tomorrow is around 4.1km long and average gradient of 5.04%
Yeahdgodave said:How did you figure that grade %? Sounds more like 7.5% based on what I could find.
On further review..... I think youre right.
Impossible. Not nearly enough room for all the finish facilities. Would be a great climb though.Deagol said:the first part of tomorrow's stage will be good, and after they get off Hwy 82 and onto Hwy 24 northbound, it will be lame...
I am tired of these flat finishes that negate the time gaps that could have been for those who earned them on the climbs. Tomorrow probably won't do much to help that. Tennesee Pass could be described as a "false-flat" almost. Beaver Creek is all about the money, that's why the stage will finish there.
OK, maybe I'm being too negative, but .... maybe not
BillytheKid & I were discussing other route options, particularly a Mt Top Finish on Red Mt Pass. While that could be great, a finish into Ouray down the North side of Red Mt would have been far less likely for the field to come together as it did on today's stage. There is no flat run-in to town, it's literaly right there. But, Ouray doesn't have the money of telluride or Beaver Creek, or Breckenridge ...
They also rode tons of miles above 9000' elevation. There could have been some cooked riders saving it for a finish where they can actually get some time.twisted pairs said:Seriously?!? Not to take anything away from the effort Danielson put in on the day, but that chase looked like it was soft-pedaling to the line. No attacks out of the chase as they neared town too? Whas BMC THAT blown? Just weird.
Yes, that was sort of my point to Billy the Kid (not enough room, trampling, etc).dgodave said:Impossible. Not nearly enough room for all the finish facilities. Would be a great climb though.
A descent to Ouray would be mad. But Ouray is pretty small a town to generate the kind of crowds they want. I think.
The Tour of Utah has had good courses from year one. Producing years of bad courses with bad racing is no way to establish a race.9000ft said:As to all the griping about how the course's or finishes don't measure up, remember, they have to get the race established and on a good financial footing before they can get too adventurous. Plus, with a 7 day race, if they had long MTF in the early part or middle of the week there's a good chance someone would get such a big gap that the race would be over after that stage. Then a bunch of guys would gripe about that.
If I remember both climbs well, the last climb up to Beaver Creek has the potential to be a bit more selective than Crested Butte but the real fireworks will be on Flagstaff. We'll have to see what gaps it produces, maybe enough that the final ITT won't make a difference. Or maybe not.
The race is only in it's second year. Give it time to mature and enjoy it for what it is. Personally, I think it could easily go to 8-10 stages with one or two genuine MTF's on something like Red Mtn Pass or Loveland, or even better, Guanella Pass from Georgetown. For now though, they need to keep the sponsors happy and build new ones, otherwise, no race at all.
Thats because Utah kept the whole race within spitting distance of a major metro area.BroDeal said:The Tour of Utah has had good courses from year one. Producing years of bad courses with bad racing is no way to establish a race.
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