2013 Giro D'Italia Field Discussion

[Eshnar]

No Giro for Guardini. Didn't think people did Turkey before the Giro anyway but maybe it wasn't confirmed.

It was since the winter Astana is all for Nibali.

 

[taiwan]

It was since the winter Astana is all for Nibali.

Yeah I realised that was non-news and deleted it. Mental note: stop posting bee-ess.

 

[movingtarget]

No.
A single result proves the potential we've already known he has.
Entire career is what we should take in account when comparing general level.

There are some classy South American riders around at the moment. Rujano is not one of them. He will never realise his potential. Every time he appears in a grand tour the hype starts. Team directors seem to question his attitude and some seem to want to strangle him for not giving it 100 %. The younger South American riders are at least two levels above Rujano. I doubt he will threaten the best riders in the Vuelta that's if he finishes.

 

[Angliru]

He cant win TDF so maybe he do Giro Vuelta and win Vuelta imo?

In a recent interview Samu was quoted saying that he was very impressed with the Giro the one time he had done it in the past (I believe 2007?). He loved the organization, the passion/support of the fans, and the beauty of the stages. It's my guess he wanted to experience it again before his career was over and as you said it leaves Vuelta participation open making him potentially competitive in both. That and he may have something left to go for it at the WC's.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

in terms of level and talent, no other rider in the world comes close to rujano. however he has just as many shortcomings physically. he's incredibly vulnerable but he's better than henao, betancurt or even quintana. however he had pfeiffer which is a big if, especially at later age like rujano. if he's fully recovered and gets to his old level no one can follow him in the climbs. you will see in the vuelta where it's always heat and sun and he shouldn't suffer.

 

[PedalCastro]

In a recent interview Samu was quoted saying that he was very impressed with the Giro the one time he had done it in the past (I believe 2007?). He loved the organization, the passion/support of the fans, and the beauty of the stages. It's my guess he wanted to experience it again before his career was over and as you said it leaves Vuelta participation open making him potentially competitive in both. That and he may have something left to go for it at the WC's.

This seems like the most likely scenario

 

[Zam_Olyas]

in terms of level and talent, no other rider in the world comes close to rujano. however he has just as many shortcomings physically. he's incredibly vulnerable but he's better than henao, betancurt or even quintana. however he had pfeiffer which is a big if, especially at later age like rujano. if he's fully recovered and gets to his old level no one can follow him in the climbs. you will see in the vuelta where it's always heat and sun and he shouldn't suffer.

What's all that "talent" for if he has many shortcomings and flop at races?

 

[theyoungest]

What's all that "talent" for if he has many shortcomings and flop at races?

Ergometer tests, of course.

 

[cineteq]

There are some classy South American riders around at the moment. Rujano is not one of them. He will never realise his potential. Every time he appears in a grand tour the hype starts. Team directors seem to question his attitude and some seem to want to strangle him for not giving it 100 %. The younger South American riders are at least two levels above Rujano. I doubt he will threaten the best riders in the Vuelta that's if he finishes.

100% agree. For whatever reason he boycotted his own riding career long time ago.

in terms of level and talent, no other rider in the world comes close to rujano. however he has just as many shortcomings physically. he's incredibly vulnerable but he's better than henao, betancurt or even quintana. however he had pfeiffer which is a big if, especially at later age like rujano. if he's fully recovered and gets to his old level no one can follow him in the climbs. you will see in the vuelta where it's always heat and sun and he shouldn't suffer.

Who's going to believe this? Rujano may be the biggest talent, buy he's mentally challenged, and the discussion ends there.

 

[Flamin]

Lotto squad is official:

Bak, Bellemakers, De Greef, Dehaes, Dockx, Hansen, Kaisen, Wellens en Willems.

First gt for young Wellens.

 

[will10]

I'll name one - Rujano.
You know better who the rest are.

Who's the last rider to podium their first GT?

 

[movingtarget]

in terms of level and talent, no other rider in the world comes close to rujano. however he has just as many shortcomings physically. he's incredibly vulnerable but he's better than henao, betancurt or even quintana. however he had pfeiffer which is a big if, especially at later age like rujano. if he's fully recovered and gets to his old level no one can follow him in the climbs. you will see in the vuelta where it's always heat and sun and he shouldn't suffer.

If he was born with Pfeiffer he will always have it. It's a neurological disorder but he might have the mild type. There are two other types that are much worse. But I did not know about that. Probably effects his hands and feet so not the easiest sport for someone with that condition.

 

[Eshnar]

Lotto squad is official:

Bak, Bellemakers, De Greef, Dehaes, Dockx, Hansen, Kaisen, Wellens en Willems.

First gt for young Wellens.

thank you

 

[Lupetto]

Danilo di Luca. It's on.

 

[Eshnar]

Danilo di Luca. It's on.

yep. I can't see him being a factor though.

 

[Netserk]

Danilo di Luca. It's on.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!

_O_

Source:
http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/Speciali/Giro_Italia/Italiano/26-04-2013/ciclismo-farnese-ingaggia-danilo-luca-sara-giro-garzelli-20294038042.shtml

 

[Netserk]

yep. I can't see him being a factor though.

He'll win the worlds! _O_

 

[the asian]

Danilo di Luca. It's on.

In Vini Fantani?

 

[taiwan]

What sort of form can he have without racing this season?

 

[Lupetto]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!

_O_

Source:
http://www.gazzetta.it/Ciclismo/Speciali/Giro_Italia/Italiano/26-04-2013/ciclismo-farnese-ingaggia-danilo-luca-sara-giro-garzelli-20294038042.shtml

jens attacks will go Sayar here.

 

[Afrank]

Good to see Di Luca will get the chance to race, however I won't be expecting too much from him. Hopefully he can liven up a couple stages, maybe take a win from the break somewhere or a win in one of the hillier stages.
I wonder if he's addition could be a benefit to Nibali in the hillier stages. That would be good, but will depend on if he even has the form, which is completely unknown.

 

[serfla]

Who's the last rider to podium their first GT?

Take a look at my avatar

 

[serfla]

There are some classy South American riders around at the moment. Rujano is not one of them. He will never realise his potential. Every time he appears in a grand tour the hype starts. Team directors seem to question his attitude and some seem to want to strangle him for not giving it 100 %. The younger South American riders are at least two levels above Rujano. I doubt he will threaten the best riders in the Vuelta that's if he finishes.

That's my point.
But Ryo & co. are pushing biased interpretation.

 

[jens_attacks]

What sort of form can he have without racing this season?

some people say he trained like a nutter all this time and that in fact was a plan to don't ride anything until giro
fanboy talking, i really hope he comes and humiliates wiggo everywhere
seriously talking after one week he will fade away because he will have no race rhythm at all. he will chase a win at pescara in the abruzzo stage
danilo di luca's base level is very high so in the first week he won't be affected i guess because he didn't race.

also i'd rather wait and see an official statement...

 

[The Hitch]

in terms of level and talent, no other rider in the world comes close to rujano. however he has just as many shortcomings physically. he's incredibly vulnerable but he's better than henao, betancurt or even quintana. however he had pfeiffer which is a big if, especially at later age like rujano. if he's fully recovered and gets to his old level no one can follow him in the climbs. you will see in the vuelta where it's always heat and sun and he shouldn't suffer.

Rujano is apparently good outside races but always has one problem or another so ends up sucking.

Gesink is apparently good outside races but always has one problem or another so ends up sucking.

Why is it that for you one of them is the talent of the century and the other is someone who is lucky to have made it to pro? Their career paths seem very similar.