2013 Grandes Prix Cyclistes: Québec et Montréal, 13 and 15 of September (WT)

[JRanton]

Luckily the Worlds don't really have a classics course. Although the distance might be a problem for Froomedog.

Looks like a classics course to me. An explosive rider will either jump away solo on the last steep climb or it will come down to a sprint between a few riders. Neither of those outcomes is going to feature Froome.

 

[Netserk]

Luckily the Worlds don't really have a classics course. Although the distance might be a problem for Froomedog.

I think you need to take a second look at the course then.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

The worlds will be predictable. Some all out attacks in the last lap, a small group sprint with an easy win for Sa... Gesink the sprinter

 

[JRanton]

I wasn't saying that he will or will not win the Worlds, just that is his goal and these races are his prep. He showed today that he is returning to form and that was my point.

Ok, but when you have your team work to place you perfectly for the finale and you end up getting blown out the back door you can't be satisfied. He'll have known before the race that his form had improved since Colorado. He wanted to test himself, which is fine, but the results weren't good!

 

[del1962]

Ok, but when you have your team work to place you perfectly for the finale and you end up getting blown out the back door you can't be satisfied. He'll have known before the race that his form had improved since Colorado. He wanted to test himself, which is fine, but the results weren't good!

He was on the front far too early though, but on this climb I think it might have been better had Froome worked for G, though whether G has the form after his injury I don't know, but of the team in the race I would have thought he (or possibly JTL) would be the most suited to this race, not that I think that anyone on Sky not in the Vuelta would have had a realsitic chance.

 

[roundabout]

Yes, he can improve further and finish in the 30s position wise as opposed to the 40s. Do you not agree that his L-B-L result is a pretty good indication that he has no chance of placing well at the worlds, especially considering that he was clearly in very good form at the time?

L-B-L is no cause for optimism, but I don't know what his role was there. If he was protected and just didn't have it up Saint Nicolas then it doesn't look good indeed.

But maybe he can win it Museeuw style instead.

 

[Afrank]

Gesink!
Nice! It's about time he got himself a win. He needed one.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Just saw the replay again on Eurosport.

The sprint is just unbelievable. Even after Van Avermaet gets loose of Sagan he still doesn't even gain a meter on Gesink. And after watching that Alberta sprint you don't really think Gesink has any chance at all in ANY sprint

 

[del1962]

Just saw the replay again on Eurosport.

The sprint is just unbelievable. Even after Van Avermaet gets loose of Sagan he still doesn't even gain a meter on Gesink. And after watching that Alberta sprint you don't really think Gesink has any chance at all in ANY sprint

I don't recall the Alberta one, was it as uphill as this one?

 

[Kwibus]

Just watched the replay on Eurosport. Amazing ride by Gesink and it's a good thing that van Avermaet gambled too much on Sagans wheel, because it seemed he would've been the only one that 'could've' beaten Gesink in the sprint. Not sure about it though since Gesink really did well.
Over head view is almost like an old Cav sprint where everyone just seems to vanish from his wheel. Only Vichot managed to stay close, but he as well was losing ground.

I think Sagan used up too much energy chasing. He seemed to be riding on a small gear though.

 

[Kwibus]

I don't recall the Alberta one, was it as uphill as this one?

Pretty sure it was flat. Not really comparable.

 

[Kwibus]

This year I was feeling pretty good again," said Van Avermaet. "In the sprint I marked Peter Sagan but I think he was a little tired. Gesink was good inside the last kilometre and the strongest guy won the race."

 

[Swingtop]

Sagan must have blown up completely dyring his uphill sprint... still, incredible stuff from Gesink! WOW

Seeing Robert Gesink winning a bunch sprint, is like .... [FILL IN]... .

 

[jsem94]

Man, Gesink just got booted off the shortlist for next years CQ.

 

[movingtarget]

Just saw the replay again on Eurosport.

The sprint is just unbelievable. Even after Van Avermaet gets loose of Sagan he still doesn't even gain a meter on Gesink. And after watching that Alberta sprint you don't really think Gesink has any chance at all in ANY sprint

Great win by Gesink. GVA had no chance as Sagan basically sat up right in front of him and he lost all of his momentum. I think he realised then that Gesink had the gap. Still he rode well to finish on the podium. Gesink's wife looked more excited than him ! Looks like it could be an interesting Worlds this year.

 

[Bushman]

this pretty much. everytime we expect something it goes horrible wrong. So most of the time we expect nothing and just hope for the best

Thats the reason why some of you already are talking about the worlds now after a victory in Québec?

 

[murali]

this is the race that i will probably remember as the race in which i saw a strong sagan lose.

All the teams made Canondale work for most of the race, tiring all the workers. BMC and OPQS were taking turns to make otehrs work. Tepstra was intelligent in attacking the field aat the right place, as well as in allowing sagan to join him. and once sagan was in front group, it was sagan v/s rest.

All the teams just told Sagan that he was no superman. I am waiting for Montreal now. Pretty sure, Sagan wants to tell the others who's the boss.


Gesink has taught again the Important lesson for the rest of the guys. If you watch the favorite's stem, then that's all you will be doing. But if you go for the win, you might actually get it. Among the leaders, only Gesink was not looking at other's stem.

 

[murali]

Man, Gesink just got booted off the shortlist for next years CQ.

how come?

he got 220 points yest, but his cq score will actually dip after the vuelta gets over.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

how come?

he got 220 points yest, but his cq score will actually dip after the vuelta gets over.

The CQ Game doesn't use current ranking but year ranking.

 

[theyoungest]

The CQ Game doesn't use current ranking but year ranking.

At the end of the year, those are the same...

Pretty sure it was flat. Not really comparable.

Yeah it was flat, but more importantly: Gesink said he was already cooked before that sprint. He'd won two mountain sprints, and created the front split pretty much on his own.

 

[murali]

The CQ Game doesn't use current ranking but year ranking.

..., and compared to last year's cq points, gesink's earnings in september is not going to change. Anyone who thought a rider like gesink should come dirt cheap is misguided. The law of averages always comes into force. Basso, this year, was just an abberation.

 

[tomorrow]

I think Sagan used up too much energy chasing. He seemed to be riding on a small gear though.

In Slovakian paper they write, sagan had a flat in the final meters, and honestly, actually it is exactly what it looked like, he had problem even before Gesink started sprinting and he nearly crashed into Avarmaet I think. However, there is not his statement yet, so we'll have to wait.

 

[murali]

In Slovakian paper they write, sagan had a flat in the final meters, and honestly, actually it is exactly what it looked like, he had problem even before Gesink started sprinting and he nearly crashed into Avarmaet I think. However, there is not his statement yet, so we'll have to wait.

I just hope that it is a flat.

The way he stopped pedaling was very depressing to watch. I felt as if i just saw a flying superman suddenly fall to the ground like stone.

 

[greenedge]

The worlds will be predictable. Some all out attacks in the last lap, a small group sprint with an easy win for Sa... Evansthe sprinter

Corrected.

Hopefully he can go well in Montreal.

 

[theyoungest]

I just hope that it is a flat.

The way he stopped pedaling was very depressing to watch. I felt as if i just saw a flying superman suddenly fall to the ground like stone.

Gesink rode on the front for large parts of the final k, after chasing down the 3 leaders. And then he rode a super long sprint. At first I thought: how stupid are you? But actually he made the final more about endurance, and less about explosiveness. That's less suited to Sagan.