2013 Vuelta a España, Stage 11: Tarazona→Tarazona TT (38.8km)

[classicomano]

Theres no way in hell Nibali comes even close to taking the red from Horner, I will take on any avatar bet on that

 

[il_cobra]

horner will dance for the win

 

[Rollthedice]

Horner: ”I’m not sure what can happen there, it’s been a couple of years since I’ve had a good time trial and I expect I’ll lose the lead to Nibali there,” he said. “Sometimes, sometimes,” he said, repeating the word to emphasise its rarity, “I do a good TT, though.”

 

[MatParker117]

Tony Martin by about 40 seconds.

 

[DenisMenchov]

Let's say you say Nibali will take the red from Horner in the ITT. I say he won't. If you win, you can choose an avatar for me to wear for a specific period of time (let's say a month). If I win, I choose your avatar.

Anyone interested?

I don't think Horner's standnig technique is going to help him much in the TT.

 

[murali]

What is wrong with you guys?
If tommy voeckler can win both ITT and GC in a race, then why not Horner? There is always a first time, right?


Seriously though, it seems more like fab-martin for 1-2.
i am going to pitch j-rod for top-5.
in the GC race, i think horner will just about maintain it, or will lose upto 10 sec.

 

[PeteTheSpinner]

I like the design of this time trial.
Usual suspects for the victory, Martin and Cancellara.
Looking at their performances during this Vuelta, it should be very close.

Regarding the GC guys, I suppose the jersey will motivate Horner and after today's stage I don't dare to say he'll lose time to his rivals.
Nibali and Valverde should be close to each other.

 

[roundabout]

Avatar bets, you chickens!

Okely dokely. Need to think of an appropriate picture though.

 

[Rollthedice]

The avatar bet sounds frightening. Nevertheless Nibali can inflict some serious pain into the close contenders on this TT. Cancelara to win, Tony second and Nibs third.

 

[Descender]

Okely dokely. Need to think of an appropriate picture though.

You have it easier than me... you know my dislike for Unipublic. Choose a pic of Guillén or Unipublic's logo.

 

[will10]

Tony M. for the stage.

Horner has often pulled out a big TT performance when he's needed to. I don't see him losing the jersey on Wednesday but we'll see.

 

[Netserk]

You have it easier than me... you know my dislike for Unipublic. Choose a pic of Guillén or Unipublic's logo.

I'd have chosen the Purito facepalm pic.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I wasn't sure if it was the correct profile or not, my bad.

Does anyone have a correct profile I can edit into the OP?

it's very easy to see that profile is wrong when the amount of km on the profile are way too much compared to the itt

 

[Netserk]

it's very easy to see that profile is wrong when the amount of km on the profile are way too much compared to the itt

That's because they don't go to the summit in the ITT. Even the correct profile would be too long...

 

[De Snelle Duif]

If the profile's correct now, I predict:
1. Cancellara
And the rest of the podium between Martin, Nibali and Kangert.

 

[hfer07]

T Martin to honour the TT colours, & Cance just a shy seconds behind him.
Nibs will be in red, while Horner will do the entire TT out of the saddle to prove yet again his unbelievable form

 

[Dedelou]

I like the design of this time trial.
Usual suspects for the victory, Martin and Cancellara.
Looking at their performances during this Vuelta, it should be very close.

Regarding the GC guys, I suppose the jersey will motivate Horner and after today's stage I don't dare to say he'll lose time to his rivals.
Nibali and Valverde should be close to each other.

Well, I can see the lift of wearing the red jersey giving Horner motivation and extra energy. (how many times we have seen that happen to a leader of a grand tour) But I cannot see that he would miraculously develop a TT position and this TT , although not extremely long is long enough to demand some skills. I would not be amazed if, being the last one to take off, he manages to keep it close and perhaps maintain his first place by a second or two. The same effort could also see him loose the lead by the same margin which then would leave him a dangerous foe for week 2

 

[MatParker117]

horner will keep the red and with a nice gap. ivan basso to make the top ten of this stage
purito to lose quite some time

If Horner loses 20 seconds to Nibali on much shorter TT's than this (as he did at the 2012 Tirreno) I can see him losing the jersey and being about 30 seconds down at the end.

 

[karlboss]

Why are we saying the profile is wrong? The map says 38.8km the profile say 38.8km. The profile says going up the side but not to the top of alto de moncayo, topping out at 1090, where as moncayo actually tops out at over 2000m. Where is the issue?

 

[Afrank]

The profile's not wrong. I had a profile of just the climb in, but took it out as it turned out to be the wrong profile for it.

 

[Random Direction]

How aero can Horner get out of saddle? Ok, now what is that graphic image threat

 

[DJ Sprtsch]

Departure times
1. 133 BONO, Matteo Lampre-Merida 13:14
2. 116 KREDER, Michel Garmin Sharp 13:15
3. 135 GRAZIATO, Massimo Lampre-Merida 13:16
4. 29 STAMSNIJDER, Tom Team Argos-Shimano 13:17
5. 43 BROWN, Graeme Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 13:18
6. 13 BETANCUR, Carlos Alberto AG2R La Mondiale 13:19
7. 26 PETERSON, Thomas Team Argos-Shimano 13:20
8. 117 NUYENS, Nick Garmin Sharp 13:21
9. 54 LANDER, Sebastian BMC Racing Team 13:22
10. 62 ARAMENDIA, Francisco Javier Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 13:23
11. 98 URTASUN, Pablo Euskaltel - Euskadi 13:24
12. 124 ISAICHEV, Vladimir Katusha 13:25
13. 176 HOWARD, Leigh Orica Greenedge 13:26
14. 112 FAIRLY, Caleb Garmin Sharp 13:27
15. 137 RICHEZE, Maximiliano Ariel Lampre-Merida 13:28
16. 105 MANGEL, Laurent FDJ.fr 13:29
17. 21 ARNDT, Nikias Team Argos-Shimano 13:30
18. 219 WESTRA, Lieuwe Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team 13:31
19. 83 BESSY, Cyril Cofidis, Solutions Credits 13:32
20. 118 RASMUSSEN, Alex Garmin Sharp 13:33
21. 102 COURTEILLE, Arnaud FDJ.fr 13:34
22. 66 LASCA, Francesco Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 13:35
23. 74 HAEDO, Lucas Sebastián Cannondale Pro Cycling 13:36
24. 147 VAN DER SANDE, Tosh Lotto Belisol 13:37
25. 172 BEWLEY, Sam Orica Greenedge 13:38
26. 197 ROWE, Luke SKY Procycling 13:39
27. 67 PIEDRA, Antonio Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 13:40
28. 86 PETIT, Adrien Cofidis, Solutions Credits 13:41
29. 155 DEMPSTER, Zakkari Team Netapp - Endura 13:42
30. 204 PETROV, Evgeny Team Saxo - Tinkoff 13:43
31. 87 POULHIES, Stéphane Cofidis, Solutions Credits 13:44
32. 175 DOCKER, Mitchell Orica Greenedge 13:45
33. 132 ANACONA, Winner Lampre-Merida 13:46
34. 113 FARRAR, Tyler Garmin Sharp 13:47
35. 125 KOZONTCHUK, Dmitry Katusha 13:48
36. 49 WAGNER, Robert Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 13:49
37. 168 VAN KEIRSBULCK, Guillaume Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 13:50
38. 203 MORKOV, Michael Team Saxo - Tinkoff 13:51
39. 171 GERRANS, Simon Orica Greenedge 13:52
40. 7 LASTRAS, Pablo Movistar Team 13:53
41. 28 SINKELDAM, Ramon Team Argos-Shimano 13:54
42. 174 COOKE, Baden Orica Greenedge 13:55
43. 144 HENDERSON, Gregory Lotto Belisol 13:56
44. 55 LODEWYCK, Klaas BMC Racing Team 13:57
45. 134 DODI, Luca Lampre-Merida 13:58
46. 211 POELS, Wouter Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team 13:59
47. 207 SÖRENSEN, Nicki Team Saxo - Tinkoff 14:00
48. 64 FERRARI, Fabricio Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 14:01
49. 45 GARATE, Juan Manuel Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 14:02
50. 38 VANOTTI, Alessandro Astana Pro Team 14:03Tarazona - Tarazona
51. 4 GUTIERREZ, José Iván Movistar Team 14:04
52. 17 MONDORY, Lloyd AG2R La Mondiale 14:05
53. 108 SOUPE, Geoffrey FDJ.fr 14:06
54. 215 HOOGERLAND, Johnny Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team 14:07
55. 73 DALL'ANTONIA, Tiziano Cannondale Cycling 14:08
56. 158 SCHORN, Daniel Team Netapp - Endura 14:09
57. 3 ERVITI, Imanol Movistar Team 14:10
58. 34 GRIVKO, Andriy Astana Pro Team 14:11
59. 106 PINEAU, Cédric FDJ.fr 14:12
60. 208 TOSATTO, Matteo Team Saxo - Tinkoff 14:13
61. 35 IGLINSKIY, Maxim Astana Pro Team 14:14
62. 57 PINOTTI, Marco BMC Racing Team 14:15
63. 185 IRIZAR, Markel Radioshack Leopard 14:16
64. 6 INTXAUSTI, Beñat Movistar Team 14:17
65. 161 MARTIN, Tony Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 14:18
66. 145 REYNES, Vicente Lotto Belisol 14:19
67. 14 CHAINEL, Steve AG2R La Mondiale 14:20
68. 196 PUCCIO, Salvatore SKY Procycling 14:21
69. 146 VAN DE WALLE, Jurgen Lotto Belisol 14:22
70. 88 SIJMENS, Nico Cofidis, Solutions Credits 14:23
71. 169 VANDEWALLE, Kristof Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 14:24
72. 128 PAOLINI, Luca Katusha 14:25
73. 153 CAMANO, Iker Team Netapp - Endura 14:26
74. 84 EDET, Nicolas Cofidis, Solutions Credits 14:27
75. 15 CHEREL, Mikael AG2R La Mondiale 14:28
76. 152 BARTA, Jan Team Netapp - Endura 14:29
77. 65 GARCIA, Marcos Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 14:30
78. 177 MEIER, Christian Orica Greenedge 14:31
79. 188 RAST, Grégory Radioshack Leopard 14:32
80. 75 LONGO BORGHINI, Paolo Cannondale Pro Cycling 14:33
81. 178 MATTHEWS, Michael Orica Greenedge 14:34
82. 194 KIRYIENKA, Vasil SKY Procycling 14:35
83. 47 TANNER, David Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 14:36
84. 24 HUPOND, Thierry Team Argos-Shimano 14:37
85. 149 VANENDERT, Dennis Lotto Belisol 14:38
86. 173 CLARKE, Simon Orica Greenedge 14:39
87. 195 KNEES, Christian SKY Procycling 14:40
88. 77 RATTO, Daniele Cannondale Pro Cycling 14:41
89. 212 BOLE, Grega Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team 14:42
90. 109 VEIKKANEN, Jussi FDJ.fr 14:43
91. 138 STORTONI, Simone Lampre-Merida 14:44
92. 119 VAN SUMMEREN, Johan Garmin Sharp 14:45
93. 39 ZEITS, Andrey Astana Pro Team 14:46
94. 51 GILBERT, Philippe BMC Racing Team 14:47
95. 23 FRÖHLINGER, Johannes Team Argos-Shimano 14:48
96. 25 JANSE VAN RENSBURG, Reinardt Team Argos-Shimano 14:49
97. 53 KOHLER, Martin BMC Racing Team 14:50
98. 93 AZANZA, Jorge Euskaltel - Euskadi 14:51
99. 115 HOWES, Alex Garmin Sharp 14:52
100. 193 CATALDO, Dario SKY Procycling 14:53Tarazona - Tarazona
101. 181 CANCELLARA, Fabian Radioshack Leopard 14:54
102. 16 GASTAUER, Ben AG2R La Mondiale 14:55
103. 167 STYBAR, Zdenek Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 14:56
104. 69 VELASCO, Ivan Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 14:57
105. 89 ZINGLE, Romain Cofidis, Solutions Credits 14:58
106. 76 PATERSKI, Maciej Cannondale Pro Cycling 14:59
107. 187 POPOVYCH, Yaroslav Radioshack Leopard 15:00
108. 94 LANDA, Mikel Euskaltel - Euskadi 15:01
109. 59 WYSS, Danilo BMC Racing Team 15:02
110. 148 VANENDERT, Jelle Lotto Belisol 15:03
111. 162 DE WEERT, Kevin Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 15:04
112. 79 WURF, Cameron Cannondale Pro Cycling 15:05
113. 129 VICIOSO, Angel Katusha 15:06
114. 159 VOSS, Paul Team Netapp - Endura 15:07
115. 97 OROZ, Juan Jose Euskaltel - Euskadi 15:08
116. 143 HANSEN, Adam Lotto Belisol 15:09
117. 44 CLEMENT, Stef Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 15:10
118. 12 BERARD, Julien AG2R La Mondiale 15:11
119. 218 VALLS FERRI, Rafael Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team 15:12
120. 183 HERMANS, Ben Radioshack Leopard 15:13
121. 136 MORI, Manuele Lampre-Merida 15:14
122. 192 BOASSON HAGEN, Edvald SKY Procycling 15:15
123. 201 KREUZIGER, Roman Team Saxo - Tinkoff 15:16
124. 18 MONTAGUTI, Matteo AG2R La Mondiale 15:17
125. 142 DE GREEF, Francis Lotto Belisol 15:18
126. 99 VERDUGO, Gorka Euskaltel - Euskadi 15:19
127. 164 MEERSMAN, Gianni Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 15:20
128. 37 TIRALONGO, Paolo Astana Pro Team 15:21
129. 104 GENIEZ, Alexandre FDJ.fr 15:22
130. 214 FLECHA, Juan Antonio Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team 15:23
131. 199 ZANDIO, Xabier SKY Procycling 15:24
132. 52 EIJSSEN, Yannick BMC Racing Team 15:25
133. 81 COPPEL, Jerome Cofidis, Solutions Credits 15:26
134. 182 BUSCHE, Matthew Radioshack Leopard 15:27
135. 156 HUZARSKI, Bartosz Team Netapp - Endura 15:28
136. 95 MARTÍNEZ, Egoi Euskaltel - Euskadi 15:29
137. 123 GUSEV, Vladimir Katusha 15:30
138. 46 SÁNCHEZ, Luis León Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 15:31
139. 78 SARMIENTO, Cayetano José Cannondale Pro Cycling 15:32
140. 19 NOCENTINI, Rinaldo AG2R La Mondiale 15:33
141. 27 PREIDLER, Georg Team Argos-Shimano 15:34
142. 107 ROUX, Anthony FDJ.fr 15:35
143. 9 SZMYD, Sylvester Movistar Team 15:36
144. 165 PAUWELS, Serge Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 15:37
145. 85 MATE, Luis Angel Cofidis, Solutions Credits 15:38
146. 166 SERRY, Pieter Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 15:39
147. 33 FUGLSANG, Jacob Astana Pro Team 15:40
148. 68 TXURRUKA, Amets Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 15:41
149. 22 BARGUIL, Warren Team Argos-Shimano 15:42
150. 8 MORENO, Javier Movistar Team 15:43Tarazona - Tarazona
151. 122 CARUSO, Giampaolo Katusha 15:44
152. 139 ULISSI, Diego Lampre-Merida 15:45
153. 41 MOLLEMA, Bauke Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 15:46
154. 189 ZUBELDIA, Haimar Radioshack Leopard 15:47
155. 154 DE LA CRUZ, David Team Netapp - Endura 15:48
156. 209 ZAUGG, Oliver Team Saxo - Tinkoff 15:49
157. 216 MARCZYNSKI, Tomasz Vacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team 15:50
158. 82 BAGOT, Yohann Cofidis, Solutions Credits 15:51
159. 63 CARDOSO, Andre Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 15:52
160. 186 KISERLOVSKI, Robert Radioshack Leopard 15:54
161. 32 BRAJKOVIC, Janez Astana Pro Team 15:56
162. 103 ELISSONDE, Kenny FDJ.fr 15:58
163. 5 HERRADA, José Movistar Team 16:00
164. 157 MENDES, José Joao Team Netapp - Endura 16:02
165. 206 SÖRENSEN, Chris Anker Team Saxo - Tinkoff 16:04
166. 191 HENAO, Sergio Luis SKY Procycling 16:06
167. 131 SCARPONI, Michele Lampre-Merida 16:08
168. 92 ANTON, Igor Euskaltel - Euskadi 16:10
169. 96 NIEVE, Mikel Euskaltel - Euskadi 16:12
170. 56 NERZ, Dominik BMC Racing Team 16:14
171. 61 ARROYO, David Caja Rural - Seguros RGA 16:16
172. 91 SÁNCHEZ, Samuel Euskaltel - Euskadi 16:18
173. 48 TEN DAM, Laurens Belkin-Pro Cycling Team 16:20
174. 198 URAN, Rigoberto SKY Procycling 16:22
175. 36 KANGERT, Tanel Astana Pro Team 16:24
176. 58 SANTAROMITA, Ivan BMC Racing Team 16:26
177. 2 CAPECCHI, Eros Movistar Team 16:28
178. 151 KONIG, Leopold Team Netapp - Endura 16:30
179. 11 POZZOVIVO, Domenico AG2R La Mondiale 16:32
180. 202 MAJKA, Rafal Team Saxo - Tinkoff 16:34
181. 101 PINOT, Thibaut FDJ.fr 16:36
182. 71 BASSO, Ivan Cannondale Pro Cycling 16:38
183. 127 MORENO, Daniel Katusha 16:40
184. 121 RODRIGUEZ, Joaquin Katusha 16:42
185. 1 VALVERDE, Alejandro Movistar Team 16:44
186. 205 ROCHE, Nicolas Team Saxo - Tinkoff 16:46
187. 31 NIBALI, Vincenzo Astana Pro Team 16:48
188. 184 HORNER, Christopher Radioshack Leopard 16:50

 

[murali]

@Afrank:

can you add the start times to the first post, or a link to it?

 

[karlboss]

The profile's not wrong. I had a profile of just the climb in, but took it out as it turned out to be the wrong profile for it.

Got it cheers.

I doubt a 3% hill will slow Martin down. Martin, Daylight, Cancellara, daylight. everyone else. Hoping Barta has a good showing.

 

[SafeBet]

If the profile's correct now, I predict:
1. Cancellara
And the rest of the podium between Martin, Nibali and Kangert.

kangert better take it easy and save some for the following stages.