2014 Giro Del Trentino, 22/04 - 25/04, 2.HC

[Tournesol]

I think Aru and Rosa will be at a good level already.

Yes,Aru will go well for sure,Rosa's form i know very little about,10th at Coppi e Bartali but is he at the level of top 10 here? Androni will lose a fair chunk of time doing TTT...Is he a contender for a good performance in certain stages or do you think he'll do a good overall?

 

[janraaskalt]

There seems to be very few riders targeting this with any discernable form,Pozzo should go well,maybe Evans,possibly one or more of the Sky crew but after that it becomes difficult to see the make up of top 10 on GC at the end of the race.

I'm always confused when people use "Pozzo" for Pozzovivo. At first I think Mattia Pozzo is not THAT good, is he? And only then... right, they're talking about Pozzovivo. It's only 4 characters more to type and avoid confusion.

 

[SafeBet]

Yes,Aru will go well for sure,Rosa's form i know very little about,10th at Coppi e Bartali but is he at the level of top 10 here? Androni will lose a fair chunk of time doing TTT...Is he a contender for a good performance in certain stages or do you think he'll do a good overall?

He was still building up his form at Coppi e Bartali and did and excellent final ITT.
I'm convinced he's top10 material for the GC.

 

[Afrank]

I'm always confused when people use "Pozzo" for Pozzovivo. At first I think Mattia Pozzo is not THAT good, is he? And only then... right, they're talking about Pozzovivo. It's only 4 characters more to type and avoid confusion.

We could start calling him vivo for short hand instead?

 

[argyllflyer]

We could start calling him vivo for short hand instead?

Or Domo or Nico. The possibilities are endless!

 

[Tournesol]

I'm always confused when people use "Pozzo" for Pozzovivo. At first I think Mattia Pozzo is not THAT good, is he? And only then... right, they're talking about Pozzovivo. It's only 4 characters more to type and avoid confusion.

Fair point,Pozzovivo it is from now on.

 

[Tournesol]

He was still building up his form at Coppi e Bartali and did and excellent final ITT.
I'm convinced he's top10 material for the GC.

Interesting,Rosa one to watch out for clearly.

So disappointed this wont be televised,should be some great action on the climbs.

 

[Matdum94]

Comfirmed no broadcasting for this race?

 

[Jelantik]

who's the major contenders for this race? I only heard wiggins name on sky's list.

 

[Afrank]

who's the major contenders for this race? I only heard wiggins name on sky's list.

Scarponi, Aru, Pozzovivo, Evans, Przemyslaw, Pirazzi, Locatelli, Bouet.

Maybe- Machado, Wiggins, Konig, Pellizotti, Anton, Basso.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Hopefully Aru will continue his progression from Catalunya here, but at the same time, still a couple of weeks to the giro, so no reason to go 100% Pozzovivo on us

 

[greenedge]

I'll go with Basso to win If not him Scarponi.

 

[Afrank]

Personally, I'm thinking we might see Evans take this, just a feeling. Scarponi and Pozzovivo could also win/get a podium.

I'm hoping for young Italian phenoms of Pirazzi, Aru, and Locatelli to do well the most though.

 

[The Hitch]

You mean because Gilbert today you think maybe all of BMC will feel like its 2011 again?

It would surprise me though. Evans is what 37 years old now. Guys like Sastre and Sanchez lost their gc ability in their early 30's.

 

[Cookster15]

It would surprise me though. Evans is what 37 years old now. Guys like Sastre and Sanchez lost their gc ability in their early 30's.

Horner is 42? He seemed to be going okay before his accident - 5 years older than Evans. Everyone is different. How long you can stay competitive will be result of multitude of factors. The Trentino is less than a week. 'Old' man Evans should be good for that long. Lets see.

 

[movingtarget]

Personally, I'm thinking we might see Evans take this, just a feeling. Scarponi and Pozzovivo could also win/get a podium.

I'm hoping for young Italian phenoms of Pirazzi, Aru, and Locatelli to do well the most though.

Based on his last race in Spain I don't think he will win which is a good thing as he is aiming for the Giro but he should be competitive at this stage of his preparation. For Evans it's all about how much improvement he actually has left.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

ok,the TTT is on tomorrow. Movistar's team:

21.ANTON Igor
22.CAPECCHI Eros
23.DOWSETT Alex
24.MALORI Adriano
25.QUINTANA Dayer
26.SANZ Enrique
27.SZMYD Sylwester
28.VISCONTI Giovanni

Should be enough firepower to bring Anton in a solid position. Is he done or can he get a result here?

 

[Escarabajo]

Horner is 42? He seemed to be going okay before his accident - 5 years older than Evans. Everyone is different. How long you can stay competitive will be result of multitude of factors. The Trentino is less than a week. 'Old' man Evans should be good for that long. Lets see.

Do you think Horner is the exception of the rule?

 

[BigMac]

NetApp also has a very strong team for the mountains. They are also decent team time trialists.

151. MACHADO Tiago
152. BENEDETTI Cesare
153. DE LA CRUZ David
154. HUZARSKI Bartosz
155. KöNIG Leopold
156. CAMANO Iker
157. MENDES José
158. THWAITES Scott

Machado for the win.

 

[vladimir]

I actually think Rusvelo could be in the mix tomorrow. Several strong TT guys in that team mixing in with allrounders in great form, even though this is a bit harder than Sochi and Adygeya

141.OVECHKIN Artem
142.KLIMOV Sergey
143.POMOSHNIKOV Sergey
144.ZAKARIN Ilnur
145.FIRSANOV Sergey
146.LAGUTIN Sergey
147.SEROV Alexander
148.ERSHOV Artur

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The TTT is flat as per profile in OP, but there are some sharp turns:

First team on the ramp: 15:15 (CEST).

 

[SafeBet]

Starting times: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhfoapieg2rw32o/PARTENTI CRONOMETRO TRENTINO (1).pdf

 

[manafana]

so upset this isn't live loved this race and the mountain days were fantastic it deserves better.

 

[Cookster15]

Do you think Horner is the exception of the rule?

Good question. My point is Horner shows there are exceptions to the rule (if there is a "rule"). Plus I think I have read there is increasing evidence that aerobic athlete longevity is longer than was previously assumed - for whatever reasons.

I suspect Evans is on the decline, but how much we don't know yet. He did after all do quite well at last years Giro at 36 - on limited prep (even if the weather helped). After this Giro Evans himself will know as will we. His BMC team seems to be going better so that will help him not just physically but psycologically too as a comfortable team environment is something Evans needs to perform at optimum. If the team is riding poorly that will cause Evans more stress.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Good question. My point is Horner shows there are exceptions to the rule (if there is a "rule"). Plus I think I have read there is increasing evidence that aerobic athlete longevity is longer than was previously assumed - for whatever reasons.

I suspect Evans is on the decline, but how much we don't know yet. He did after all do quite well at last years Giro at 36 - on limited prep (even if the weather helped). After this Giro Evans himself will know as will we. His BMC team seems to be going better so that will help him not just physically but psycologically too as a comfortable team environment is something Evans needs to perform at optimum. If the team is riding poorly that will cause Evans more stress.

A long tough TT rarely lies imo. Here from PV this year:

1 MARTIN Tony [www.procyclingstats.com] Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 6 50 38:33 40.311
2 CONTADOR Alberto Tinkoff-Saxo 4 30 0:07 40.190
3 KWIATKOWSKI Michal Omega Pharma - Quick-Step 2 18 0:15 40.052
4 SPILAK Simon Team Katusha 1 13 0:16 40.034
5 PERAUD Jean-Christophe [www.procyclingstats.com] AG2R La Mondiale 1 10 0:35 39.710
6 DUMOULIN Tom Team Giant-Shimano 7 0:38 39.660
7 IZAGIRRE Ion Movistar Team 4 0:41 39.609
8 VALVERDE Alejandro Movistar Team 3 1:02 39.259
9 VAN GARDEREN Tejay BMC Racing Team 2 1:05 39.209
10 PINOT Thibaut [www.procyclingstats.com] FDJ.fr 1 1:25 38.882
11 EVANS Cadel BMC Racing Team 1:27 38.850

He could be in the mix at the Giro, but lets see if he has improved in Trentino.