2014 Giro d'Italia, Stage 12 Barbaresco → Barolo 41,9 km ITT

[Escarabajo]

Think it should be said at this point, remember to keep clinic comments in the clinic.

Especially those guys with the comments since their favorite riders are so shiny. It makes me very mad!!

I keep my comments to myself now but if they are man enough just tell them to go to the clinic and defend their accusations!!!!

 

[SafeBet]

Just read this topic from page 40 something and man this is some of the best hysteria I've ever read on this forum. Must've been a hell of a TT and I'm kinda sad I couldn't watch it.

WTF moment of the day has to be Brambilla. Maybe i didn't pay enough attention to his past TTs but I mean, seriously???

A bit disappointed in Aru, I think he did better last year in Saltara on a hardest parcours. But I've heard he's getting his angel wings ready for Saturday so don't say I didn't warn you.

As I said somewhere else, all set for an epic third week. If it isn't, I'll blame it on the riders.

 

[maltiv]

WTF moment of the day has to be Brambilla. Maybe i didn't pay enough attention to his past TTs but I mean, seriously???

From what I can find he seems to normally be between 50th-150th in time trials. His best TT result ever before the Giro was a 30th place in Tour de Slovenie.

 

[VeloHuman]

I think the drying conditions were a huge advantage for the later starters. Something tells me Cataldo beats Brambilla 9 times out of 10.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

The winner on the road:

Like wines, but never quite enjoyed the vineyard landscape.

Anyway more pics here: http://www.steephill.tv/2014/giro-d-italia/photos/stage-12/

 

[The Hitch]

OMFG

Original recording cut out because of storm so waited 7 hours to watch repeat.

I always rated Uran higher than most but wtf, 1 minute 17

This is more insane than what Contador did in Tirreno.

Most shocked i've been at a result since Salamanca

 

[maxmartin]

Just read this topic from page 40 something and man this is some of the best hysteria I've ever read on this forum. Must've been a hell of a TT and I'm kinda sad I couldn't watch it.

WTF moment of the day has to be Brambilla. Maybe i didn't pay enough attention to his past TTs but I mean, seriously???

A bit disappointed in Aru, I think he did better last year in Saltara on a hardest parcours. But I've heard he's getting his angel wings ready for Saturday so don't say I didn't warn you.

As I said somewhere else, all set for an epic third week. If it isn't, I'll blame it on the riders.

Aru actually did extremely well on the climbing part, he maybe overspent the energy. But I saw his potential to winning stage 19

 

[MotorRouleur]

is svein tuft intentionally trying to come in last? or is he really just that terrible right now? i thought he would gain time over lots of people in the time trial. is he injured?

Several things led to a no-brainer decision to ride easy:

[] It's not perfectly suited to him, he excels on flatter corso.
[] As you all know, he still in recovery mode after heavy falls.
[] Given tomorrow is an easy day and not mountains, GC guys were expected to go very, very hard in the TT.
[] As a result of the above, if Svein did go all out, he'd place high, but wouldn't win. He'd move from 175 to 170 place.
Risks for Svein? Huge; having to drop out this wkd, or miss an upcoming time limits.

Orica is depleted (half the team is gone) and need horsepower for the run-ups to the mountain climbs. He still has to get over lots of mtns, and will use also use next week's TT as an easy day.

Svein also finished last in last year's TdF, a couple minutes behind a guy named Kittel. 30 guys failed to finish. Specialists like Tuft aren't paid by their GC placement. Who came in last in the TT? Some guy named Bouhanni.

 

[MotorRouleur]

It's pretty simple; Cadel got spooked 3 different times when his wheels slipped out on wet spots (I saw one on Eurosport), so he had an internal (or DS) message saying "You choice; go all out and fall, or hold back a bit, lose some time and make it up in the 2nd half of the Giro. Your choice." Cadel chose wisely.

This is a also message that Basso & Ludviggson also heard; they chose poorly. Ivan slid from 10th to 30th, and Tobias went from 45th to a couch at home.

 

[maxmartin]

It's pretty simple; Cadel got spooked 3 different times when his wheels slipped out on wet spots (I saw one on Eurosport), so he had an internal (or DS) message saying "You choice; go all out and fall, or hold back a bit, lose some time and make it up in the 2nd half of the Giro. Your choice." Cadel chose wisely.

This is a also message that Basso & Ludviggson also heard; they chose poorly. Ivan slid from 10th to 30th, and Tobias went from 45th to a couch at home.

Nah, he lost almost a minute on the climbing part of the course. I doubt slippery road is the major reason. He does not have climbing legs today simple as that. He actually clawed sometime back when the road is flat.

 

[The Hitch]

There are few outsiders with Zoncolan still to come.

Nah, no one outside those guys is going to challenge without some Arroyo like break.

Maybe Duarte could go into a break on Val Martelo and take back some good time.

Maybe Uran shares Betancur's - dont race if a Colombian can win, attitude from last year and gives him all the time for free

I offer Duarte because he's from 2600m so could be one to really benefit from the altitude in that stage, and he showed last year to be a great 3rd week climber.

 

[auscyclefan94]

The reason Evans lost time is because Uran was better, nothing to do with rain. I certainly wouldn't be writing Evans off that quickly, I think he will still be one to watch. Not all bad that the pressure is now on Uran to defend the lead for the next 9 days, I have confidence that Evans can do a very good GC result. He is climbing well, despite the tt climbing result

 

[The Hitch]

Do you really think he's going to recover in a couple of days?

Murito was ill in the 2nd week of the Giro in 2011, but held on and in the final week, recovered and shot up the gc to 5th.

 

[The Hitch]

just what do u guys expect from him??! this was a fairly hilly ITT. u expect him to smash it??! he's a guy for the high high mountains where his high altitude upbringing comes into effect. thats his big weapon. next thing you'll be expecting him to compete in sprints with kittel

Yep, Quintana only performs at altitude, especially tt's.

Yep

 

[The Hitch]

what was that race a couple years ago that Pozzo won on a massive mountain?
was it Trentino? they were saying that was one of the highest mountains in a stage race

I think you misheard/ they meant to say - hardest, not highest. The climb was one of the hardest ever climbed in European cycling (especially since it was all goat track) but high altitude it was not.

People saying this Giro is over... no way. There are maybe 12 or 13 serious climbs yet, and they won't be ridden like they have been so far.

Anyone know what the biggest deficit to be overturned to win a GT is (without oppenent DNF)?

In recent years, in theory, - Pereiro 30 minutes

More clear cut Basso was 9 or 10 minutes down at this stage of the Giro 4 years ago (Laquila was stage 11 or 12 I think). But different circumstances.

De Gendt wasn't that far off pulling of a tremendous out of nowhere comeback in 2012.

 

[The Hitch]

People saying this Giro is over... no way. There are maybe 12 or 13 serious climbs yet, and they won't be ridden like they have been so far.

Anyone know what the biggest deficit to be overturned to win a GT is (without oppenent DNF)?

In recent years, in theory, - Pereiro 30 minutes

More clear cut Basso was 9 or 10 minutes down at this stage of the Giro 4 years ago (Laquila was stage 11 or 12 I think). But different circumstances.

De Gendt wasn't that far off pulling of a tremendous out of nowhere comeback in 2012.

 

[karlboss]

In recent years, in theory, - Pereiro 30 minutes

More clear cut Basso was 9 or 10 minutes down at this stage of the Giro 4 years ago (Laquila was stage 11 or 12 I think). But different circumstances.

De Gendt wasn't that far off pulling of a tremendous out of nowhere comeback in 2012.

I think Periero is the better example, and given the relatively weak teams in the Giro a similar scenario isn't off the books. Looking at 10-15 minutes Hesjedal, Basso, Duarte, Rolland, Sanchez, Rogers, Siustou, i think are all close enough and good enough to cause a real head ache in a break. Especially those with a team mate higher up. For example if Sanchez goes, OPQS think it is a move for Evans and the lead grows and grows as OPQS wait for Evans to jump, which he never does, Sanchez takes a 2 minute lead and never gives all of it up. I think if Rolland or Basso try there are some in the top 10 who'll ride to defend their 5th place, seeing it is an obvious grab to move up a couple of GC places.
Movements of 2 minutes or so aren't too uncommon, Contador fuente de 2012, Schleck Galibier 2011, Basso, Nibali, Scarponi, Aprica 2010. Sastre alpe d'huez 2008.
I think the real shot fired in the TT was OPQS as a team, Uran moves into the lead, Poels, Brambilla, De Gendt with a solid statement, we are in form we dare you to take us on.

 

[SafeBet]

It's pretty simple; Cadel got spooked 3 different times when his wheels slipped out on wet spots (I saw one on Eurosport), so he had an internal (or DS) message saying "You choice; go all out and fall, or hold back a bit, lose some time and make it up in the 2nd half of the Giro. Your choice." Cadel chose wisely.

This is a also message that Basso & Ludviggson also heard; they chose poorly. Ivan slid from 10th to 30th, and Tobias went from 45th to a couch at home.

Ivan slid all the way from 10th to 11th.
He lost as many positions in the GC as Evans did.

 

[jens_attacks]

ivan was really unlucky, puncture changed bikes, and later he crashed too. at least he says he feels strong. an epic win on zoncolan is still possible. vai ivan!

 

[Butterhead]

ivan was really unlucky, puncture changed bikes, and later he crashed too. at least he says he feels strong. an epic win on zoncolan is still possible. vai ivan!

We should make a bet Jens

 

[manafana]

Just read this topic from page 40 something and man this is some of the best hysteria I've ever read on this forum. Must've been a hell of a TT and I'm kinda sad I couldn't watch it.

WTF moment of the day has to be Brambilla. Maybe i didn't pay enough attention to his past TTs but I mean, seriously???

A bit disappointed in Aru, I think he did better last year in Saltara on a hardest parcours. But I've heard he's getting his angel wings ready for Saturday so don't say I didn't warn you.

As I said somewhere else, all set for an epic third week. If it isn't, I'll blame it on the riders.

you should change setting to at least 30 posts per page much easier going than 10 a page

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

break winning, nice