Or spain, or portugal . I don't know.Bavarianrider said:If they feel the need to start the Giro in a run down economic desaster state, why not simply go to southern italy![]()
Or spain, or portugal . I don't know.Bavarianrider said:If they feel the need to start the Giro in a run down economic desaster state, why not simply go to southern italy![]()
yeah, a prologue around Newark would be great.Bavarianrider said:Pretty emebarassing if you ask me.
With all that talk of the Giro officials to do a start in Washington, New York or something like that. And now they end up in Dublin/Belfast. Oh boy![]()
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand.Zam_Olyas said:It will be the first foreign start for any Grand Tour since the implementation of a new UCI regulation prohibiting rest days on three-week Tours until the completion of at least seven days of racing
no, it means no one gives a flying f*ck about UCI rulesSafeBet said:Sorry, I'm not sure I understand.
This means they will take a flight straight after the third stage and then race the fourth stage the day after?
In 2012 the Giro started close to me(40 km). It was a terrible decision! The Giro simply doesn't belong in Denmark, and Denmark has nothing to offer to the Giro. They only did it to increase the audience (It was sent for the first time on national (TV)element said:You'd all change your tune if it was starting in your hometown! Can't wait for this, will be the first WT race I get to see.
Great crit race.Netserk said:PS: I also think it was terrible that the Worlds was in Copenhagen in '11.
Phat will agree. Rules are made to be broken when convenient.Eshnar said:no, it means no one gives a flying f*ck about UCI rules![]()
for the riders it won't be a problem, but it will be a major issue for all the organization material and veichles, team equipment and all the sponsor carousel.williamp78 said:I read that they wont be having a rest day between the third and fourth stages. Presumably just jumping on a few chartered flights from dublin to italy
I'd put money on a TTT on the first day in Italy. Not only does that mean the riders won't need to be racing in the morning the next day, but the teams can arrange for the time trial bikes to be waiting for the riders in Italy. Meanwhile it gives the racing bikes an extra day to arrive.williamp78 said:I read that they wont be having a rest day between the third and fourth stages. Presumably just jumping on a few chartered flights from dublin to italy
Another reason to be disgusted by the move.Cult Classics said:I'd put money on a TTT on the first day in Italy. Not only does that mean the riders won't need to be racing in the morning the next day, but the teams can arrange for the time trial bikes to be waiting for the riders in Italy. Meanwhile it gives the racing bikes an extra day to arrive.
Late May is generally the nicest time of the year in Ireland - people call it exam weather as schoolkids/students have to study for/do exams during what is often the only decent bit of sun all year. And if it did rain, so what? You won't melt, unless you're Jan Ullrich. No matter how bad it is it'll still be a hell of a lot warmer than last year's penultimate stage finish on the Stelvio.And who wants to ride in the rain and colder than already is in Italy?
I'm not sure what point you're making here? Considering the state of the economy both sides of the border, there won't be much milk to be had.Everybody wants to milk the Sky cow.
The Rás is an 8 day stage race and has been run since the 50's. The Tour of Ireland (for a while the Nissan Classic - check out some clips on YouTube) was another 8 day stage race that started in the 50's but is no longer run. Neither is the same as having a Grand Tour come to town.I am from US and Giro does not belong here. Giro does not belong in Ireland either. If UCI want race there create a one week Tour of Ireland and make the teams go there.
That's it, of all the places feekin Belfast!?Dazed and Confused said:yeah, a prologue around Newark would be great.
You know if they had decided to start anywhere else but freekin Belfast, one might detect a bit of willful projecting on your part. However, given the history Northern Ireland has with Britain means that your assertion is grounded.Dazed and Confused said:Italy with the best cycling terrain in the world wants to find roads in Ireland. Everybody wants to milk the Sky cow.
Ok, but I was being ironic of course. I mean Belfast usually isn't considered one of the top tourist attractions in Ireland, nor is it exactly synonomus with urban charm - no offense to any from the city on here.Zam_Olyas said:Me, i love murals so i love the belfast murals. I wish they could show that.
I agree that the Cork area is more typically Irish and has bigger hills/more rugged backdrops, but Belfast itself has a unique character and is quite befitting of the dramatic ethos of the Giro. Hopefully the prologue takes in some of the murals etc. Also, the road stage will probably go up the Antrim Coast Road and into the Glens of Antrim, which will make for some spectacular scenery and racing.rhubroma said:Ok, but I was being ironic of course. I mean Belfast usually isn't considered one of the top tourist attractions in Ireland, nor is it exactly synonomus with urban charm - no offense to any from the city on here.
I understand all the symbolic and business reasons for holding it there, personally, though, I'd much rather it have been in the area around Cork, if it must begin in Ireland.
Brave lad, by all accounts. As a 9 year old, gave a bone marrow transplant to the youngest of the three brothers, Florian, then 7, who had leukaemia (Nick Roche, 'Inside the Peloton', chapter 9).rhubroma said:As an aside, in a second article in the same daily, an interview with Stephen Roche, who lives between Antibes and Majorca (lovely places!), the Irish ex-champion says his son Nicholas is strong and this year with Contador at Saxo Bank will have some nice sadisfactions. Yet his other son, 14 year-old Alex, who has just started racing with a Nice based team - naturally on Carrera bikes - Roche claims is a phenomenon. "He's got the peddle stroke of athletes of talent. I'm sure he will win the Giro and Tour of 2024. You wanna bet?"
So there you have it, you heard it first hear.
Fodor's listed Belfast as one of "The 21 places in the world to visit."rhubroma said:Ok, but I was being ironic of course. I mean Belfast usually isn't considered one of the top tourist attractions in Ireland, nor is it exactly synonomus with urban charm - no offense to any from the city on here.
I understand all the symbolic and business reasons for holding it there, personally, though, I'd much rather it have been in the area around Cork, if it must begin in Ireland.
Well, then, I look forward to the Irish scenery, while your comment about Belfast being befitting of the drama and ethos of the Giro is certainly intriguing.element said:I agree that the Cork area is more typically Irish and has bigger hills/more rugged backdrops, but Belfast itself has a unique character and is quite befitting of the dramatic ethos of the Giro. Hopefully the prologue takes in some of the murals etc. Also, the road stage will probably go up the Antrim Coast Road and into the Glens of Antrim, which will make for some spectacular scenery and racing.
And yes, me being glad about the Giro coming here might be a bit selfish, but only in the same way as fans who pray for rain before Paris Roubaix, or who complain when there aren't enough mountain top finishes in a GT.
Well, no offence, but my list of "21 places in the world to visit," if that be all, would not include Belfast. Although I'm sure you are correct about a certain perception being 10-15 years passé.Armchair cyclist said:Fodor's listed Belfast as one of "The 21 places in the world to visit."
Most comments here seem to be 10-15 years out of date.
While I also know and like Cork more, it is Belfast who have come up with the cash, which is the only meaningful factor in determining stage locations.
Cavehill and Upper Springfield, and then a loop through the mountains of Mourne might not be selective among a field like the Giro, but will be a lot more scenic than many flatlands opening stages.
Just to be clear - you have gotten angry about someone guessing what may happen?Mad Elephant Man said:Another reason to be disgusted by the move.
These kind of stupid decisions make me so angry.
Now you are saying that your selfish interests are better than other peoples selfish interests, fair enough.Mad Elephant Man said:And to those saying it is good decision because they get to see racing, you are just putting your own selfish desires above the good of the Giro and the sport.
I take no offence: one of the biggest travel publishing companies in the world might consider that their opinion carries more weight than yours...rhubroma said:Well, no offence, but my list of "21 places in the world to visit," if that be all, would not include Belfast. Although I'm sure you are correct about a certain perception being 10-15 years passé.
At any rate, the Giro will certainly afford an occasion to reformulate sensibilities toward Northern Ireland's capital.
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