2014 Tour de France, Stage 11: Besançon - Oyonnax (187.5 km)

[Avoriaz]

they shoot horses don't they?

Shoot them? Over there they eat them

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

They did the right thing. They couldn't know Slagter was this bad. He is way worse than few stages ago

You and George Hincapie should hold a tactics clinic.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

OK I need an update here, please.

Drove home from work and turned on the telly, seeing Talansky chasing the peleton without team mates, lost by about 4mins. Then his team mates goes full pull in front of the peleton, just to drop their GC man totally.

Then I was disturbed by work, and yet I'm back at the telly and it seems like he will be struggling with the time limit.

What's the story. Besides, that it seems like the most headless team tactics in cycling history.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Purito not contesting today?

 

[Bushman]

tiny engine that finished 6th in LBL?? Right.

Just not good enough today I think

In an edition where 30 guys finished together.

 

[Fight.The.Power]

I hear Garmin's new strategy is to leash a tiger to the team car, make Talansky wear a bacon jersey, and drive along behind him.

Bacon Jersey LOL LMAO !

Doesn't Lady Gaga have one of those ?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You and George Hincapie should hold a tactics clinic.

Ok once again, explain what is wrong with this tactic

1) they know talansky is gone in the gc
2) the only thing to make something of the tour is win stages
3) you have a profile with 2 middle mountain hills, a terrain that suits Slagter and possibly navardauskas

what's wrong with trying to make the stage hard and launch slagter??

I seriously don't see it.
The fact that Slagter failed afterwards, well that can happen. But what is wrong with the tactic. Explain the thing I appearently don't see?

Dumping Talansky? He was done anyway, peloton would ride anyway.. So explain. Mr genius

 

[Bushman]

Roche looking really strong.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Anyone know what the rough time limit would be for Talansky?

 

[Flamin]

You can be like that all you want. The tactic was correct. You cannot predict if he is on a good day or not Who's the *** now?

So you're saying that a professional bike rider, when more than 100k into a race, has no idea if he has good or bad legs?

 

[hfer07]

just tuned in- What the fvck happened to Talansky?

 

[JimPanzen]

Anyone know what the rough time limit would be for Talansky?

Jop, will take of soon I think.

 

[Fight.The.Power]

Anyone know what the rough time limit would be for Talansky?

The five categories and their cutoff percentages are:

Category 1 - stage with no particular difficulty •4 percent if the average speed of the winner is 21mph (34kmh) or less
•Up to 12 percent if the average speed of the winner is greater than 30mph (48kmh)

Category 2 - stage presenting medium difficulty •6 percent if the average speed of the winner is 19mph (31kmh) or less
•Up to 18 percent if the average speed of the winner is greater than 26mph (42kmh)

Category 3 - stage presenting intense difficulty •5 percent if the average speed of the winner is 15mph (26kmh) or less
•Up to 18 percent if the average speed of the winner is greater than 24mph (38kmh)

Category 4 - individual time trial •Must be within 25 percent of the winner's time

Category 5 - team time trial •Fifth man crossing the line must be within 25 percent of winning team's time

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

So you're saying that a professional bike rider, when more than 100k into a race, has no idea if he has good or bad legs?

I think you bike yourself right? You can think you have great legs, then go on a climb and it turns out you aren't so great as you thought. I'm sure it happenes to pro's just as well.
I've seen big GT leaders have their team at the front all day, and then suck at the last climb. And i'm not talking about 24year olds like Slagter, but experienced, hardened GT men, that fail suddenly.

So yeah you can feel great and turn out not to be great, even pro riders. Even experienced pro riders. It's not like this never happened before lol.

 

[Broth3r]

If only Machado had this coverage yesterday.

 

[glassmoon]

If only Machado had this coverage yesterday.

Please sir, he was only 3rd in GC

 

[JimPanzen]

Is case of winning...will Roche do the pistol salute?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Cannondale keeping things in check. I think we will have a bunch sprint regardless

 

[Fight.The.Power]

Anyone know what the rough time limit would be for Talansky?

So by my reckoning which could be completely wrong Talansky needs to finish within 45 minutes ??

 

[Zora_DB]

Talansky's own idea to carry on - I thought so

 

[Flamin]

I think you bike yourself right? You can think you have great legs, then go on a climb and it turns out you aren't so great as you thought. I'm sure it happenes to pro's just as well.
I've seen big GT leaders have their team at the front all day, and then suck at the last climb. And i'm not talking about 24year olds like Slagter, but experienced, hardened GT men, that fail suddenly.

So yeah you can feel great and turn out not to be great, even pro riders. Even experienced pro riders. It's not like this never happened before lol.

Of course, but there's a difference between feeling great and ending up being not so great, and feeling great and ending up being dropped immediately. Besides, it was hardly a tough hill.. because indeed, riding on the flat all day and then climb a HC climb is a big difference.

 

[Carols]

Paul says 33-38 minutes for cutoff time.

If Roche can do something here that sure would pick up TS . Go Nico!

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Pitbull wanted to continue. Chapeau.

 

[No_Balls]

Is case of winning...will Roche do the pistol salute?

I believe so. Go Nico

 

[melkemugg]

This smell more and more of Sagan