2015 Giro Route Rumours

[Netserk]

With no other climbs it would be a short and sad stage. I hope they'll do Moncenisio.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

If it was said, it was a guess by some users. I saw no sources about that.

I would happy to be wrong about that.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

I guess they could go for Croce Dominii - Mortirolo - Padrio/Trivigno - Aprica

Or even Croce Domini - Padrio - Mortirolo - Aprica.

 

[Netserk]

Or even Croce Domini - Padrio - Mortirolo - Aprica.

Ofc, but that wouldn't include the Contador side

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

With no other climbs it would be a short and sad stage. I hope they'll do Moncenisio.

That would be good.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

Ofc, but that wouldn't include the Contador side

Why does Contador get a side?

They should be climbing the Mortirolo from Mazzo, forget about anything from the other side, it is not the same quality of climb.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Actually the (potential) quality of the rumoured stages is great, besides the Madonna di Campiglio one... If only just one of them was in the last edition it would have been great.

Potential quality, sure, anyone can draw up a good stage that finishes in Sestriere or Cervinia (they'd need to be very hard though, the Cervinia stage in particular, as there's no really brutal HC climb nearby) or on Abetone, but what do you think are the most likely routes for those three stages?

The Abetone one in particular wouldn't make much sense if it featured a major climb that early in the race, as that would make it easily the hardest stage (in practice) of the first two weeks. It would be very atypical, for sure.

The only rumored mountain stages I'm looking forward to right now to are obviously Aprica (I'd be shocked if that one wasn't easily the hardest stage in the race and think Gavia will be IN, as it was rumored) and Verbania, which probably is not much more than a climb and a descent finish, so not a great stage by any stretch, but at least a great finale is likely.

 

[jens_attacks]

what side is that of contador?
from mazzi di valtelina is pantani's climb anyway. and that should be used next year

 

[Netserk]

what side is that of contador?
from mazzi di valtelina is pantani's climb anyway. and that should be used next year

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=1581052#post1581052

 

[Matt92]

what side is that of contador?
from mazzi di valtelina is pantani's climb anyway. and that should be used next year

It's a road called "Direttissima", it should be like 9 kms at 10%.

Though I'm not really sure they'll climb from that side, and I hope they won't. The usual climb from Mazzo di Valtellina plus the finish in Aprica is ideal for attacks (especially if they climb Aprica from the road they used in 2010, which is more irregular and challenging than the usual road).

 

[May0maniac]

It's a road called "Direttissima", it should be like 9 kms at 10%.

Though I'm not really sure they'll climb from that side, and I hope they won't. The usual climb from Mazzo di Valtellina plus the finish in Aprica is ideal for attacks (especially if they climb Aprica from the road they used in 2010, which is more irregular and challenging than the usual road).

I've heard that they will climb Apice like in 2010.

 

[Eshnar]

Potential quality, sure, anyone can draw up a good stage that finishes in Sestriere or Cervinia (they'd need to be very hard though, the Cervinia stage in particular, as there's no really brutal HC climb nearby) or on Abetone, but what do you think are the most likely routes for those three stages?

Abetone: Short stage (less than 150 kms) with Pradaccio
Aprica: Croce Domini, Aprica, Trivigno, Mortirolo from Mazzo, Aprica. 226 kms.
Cervinia: Saint-Panthaleon, Cervinia. 200 kms.
Sestriere: Moncenisio, Finestre, Sestriere. 188 kms

I've heard that they will climb Apice like in 2010.

I hope for it, as it would mean Mortirolo classical side.

 

[Bexon30]

Abetone: Short stage (less than 150 kms) with Pradaccio
Aprica: Croce Domini, Aprica, Trivigno, Mortirolo from Mazzo, Aprica. 226 kms.
Cervinia: Saint-Panthaleon, Cervinia. 200 kms.
Sestriere: Moncenisio, Finestre, Sestriere. 188 kms

I hope for it, as it would mean Mortirolo classical side.

The Abetone mtf stage, does it pass through Bagni di Luca? Or head in from north? I'm familiar slightly with this area, just wondered on the direction of the stage. Also do you have a link to the mtf profile, thanks.

 

[Ricco']

Is a remake of 1994 Aprica stage (Pantani) still possible or is out of question?

That day they climbed Stelvio, Mortirolo from Mazzo, Aprica, Santa Cristina and descended into Aprica.

 

[Eshnar]

The Abetone mtf stage, does it pass through Bagni di Luca? Or head in from north? I'm familiar slightly with this area, just wondered on the direction of the stage. Also do you have a link to the mtf profile, thanks.

Mine is just a guess, I don't have anything concrete. And about the Abetone stage I really have no rumours besides the finish in Abetone It can be anything.

Is a remake of 1994 Aprica stage (Pantani) still possible or is out of question?

That day they climbed Stelvio, Mortirolo from Mazzo, Aprica, Santa Cristina and descended into Aprica.

Well, the Stelvio is totally out of question. The rest can be done I guess.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

Aprica: Croce Domini, Aprica, Trivigno, Mortirolo from Mazzo, Aprica. 226 kms.

Thanks. I'd take it.

Why do you think they won't climb Gavia, though? That seemed to have been the original plan, according to the Velonews articles that cited the Giornale di Sondrio.

 

[Eshnar]

Thanks. I'd take it.

Why do you think they won't climb Gavia, though? That seemed to have been the original plan, according to the Velonews articles that cited the Giornale di Sondrio.

Because I don't think they'll climb to Madonna di Campiglio twice in two days.

 

[jens_attacks]

well it seems that they will climb mortirolo from contador's side for sure...good bye mazzo di valtellina classic

http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=72570&tp=n

how will the route look, will they finish right after the descent i wonder?
well at least on thing is sure, alberto will attack there

 

[fauniera]

ofc they can. But the idea doesn't really get me crazy. Especially if they descend the Grosio side.

Grosio would be stupid, but if they descend to Mazzo it would be quite good: Mortirolo from the "Contador side", descent to Mazzo, Trivigno from Tirano, Aprica.

Edit: The last 600 m of the road to Trivigno are actually on gravel, according to Streetview. No problem, as there is an alternative road slightly to the west.

 

[fauniera]

Of course they don't have to descend to Valtellina. They can take the ridge road to Monte Padrio, descend towards Aprica and have Valico Santa Cristina as the last climb.

Edit: found this useful map of the many sides of Mortirolo at APM. The side in discussion now is the pink one ("direttissima").

 

[Matt92]

What about Mortirolo from Monno - descent to Grosio - short flat section to Mazzo - Mortirolo from Mazzo before the finish in Aprica?

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

What about Mortirolo from Monno - descent to Grosio - short flat section to Mazzo - Mortirolo from Mazzo before the finish in Aprica?

It would be good.



Is that yellow road on the map really raceable?

If so they could climb up the pink/ purple to the yellow, then descend the yellow, go climb something else to get to the other side then do the Mortirolo properly from Mazzo and Aprica finish.

However with the stage starting in Pinzolo and going over the Croce Domini it makes the stage over 280km if you try and do the Gavia in between the two Mortirolo climbs, so not possible.

 

[fauniera]

What about Mortirolo from Monno - descent to Grosio - short flat section to Mazzo - Mortirolo from Mazzo before the finish in Aprica?

Hardly possible, as a few km would be needed for the descent and for the ascent.

Is that yellow road on the map really raceable? .

No. Only the western part is paved, the eastern part is a dirt road (there are a few cobbles there, too). Not rideable.

However with the stage starting in Pinzolo and going over the Croce Domini it makes the stage over 280km if you try and do the Gavia in between the two Mortirolo climbs, so not possible.

Croce Domini (or Maniva) make only sense without Gavia. Gavia doesn't make much sense at all, if the Mortirolo is climbed from the south.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

Hardly possible, as a few km would be needed for the descent and for the ascent.




No. Only the western part is paved, the eastern part is a dirt road (there are a few cobbles there, too). Not rideable.




Croce Domini (or Maniva) make only sense without Gavia. Gavia doesn't make much sense at all, if the Mortirolo is climbed from the south.

I only thought about the Gavia if the yellow road was raceable which I doubted any way. No Gavia in this stage it seems.

As far as the few kilometers being used for the descent and ascent, is there really any possibility of the riders going both ways at the same time?

EDIT: Pinzolo is a stupid place for this stage to start when you have to go all the way south to do the Croce Domini and then back north again.

 

[fauniera]

As far as the few kilometers being used for the descent and ascent, is there really any possibility of the riders going both ways at the same time?

I don't think so, not in this case. I also suspect that if they were planning a double Mortirolo, we would have heard of that by now.