2015 Giro Route Rumours

[Netserk]

It's Giau.

Great news!

Edit: I don't think it's a clue that it will be climbed next year though

 

[May0maniac]

It's Giau.

Great news!

Edit: I don't think it's a clue that it will be climbed next year though

The could climb it before Plan de Corones, let's hope for the best.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

From the Transfers and Rumors thread.

Not a new rumor, but...

Beppe news;

-Nibali waiting November to check both Giro and Tour routes to see if he can do the double (RCS designing an easier route for this reason)

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[Eshnar]

From the Transfers and Rumors thread.

Not a new rumor, but...

If "Beppe" stands for Beppe Conti, he's as reliable as me and you.

 

[May0maniac]

If "Beppe" stands for Beppe Conti, he's as reliable as me and you.

Yeh, Beppe Conti is never a reliable source

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

If "Beppe" stands for Beppe Conti, he's as reliable as me and you.

Nah, he's right often enough to be considered a source, unlike random people on CN. Last June he already called that Contador would be gunning for the Giro-Tour double next year.

He knew about Sagan, Basso signing for Tinkoff, as well.

 

[Eshnar]

Nah, he's right often enough to be considered a source, unlike random people on CN. Last June he already called that Contador would be gunning for the Giro-Tour double next year.

He knew about Sagan, Basso signing for Tinkoff, as well.

He knows his stuff about riders, that's true. About races, not.

 

[Miburo]

You think it's possible that Contador talked to them and they told him the route isn't gonna be too hard?

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

He knows his stuff about riders, that's true. About races, not.

This was part of a rumor about Nibali, though. I don't think it's beyond RCS to make it part of the negotiations to help secure big name riders. If Conti has a reliable source "within" Astana, which seems to be the case re: earlier rumors about Nibali and Aru, I don't see why not. Nibali apparently seems to have played it smart by not agreeing to anything until they release the route.

He has more chances of winning the Tour than winning the Giro now with Contador in the mix. At this stage it would be smarter for him to focus on T-A, MSR, LBL and the Tour instead, regardless of the route. He probably wants to beat Contador in Italy, though...


Has there been any news about the rumored mountain stages? Is Gavia in, do you think?

 

[ILovecycling]

You think it's possible that Contador talked to them and they told him the route isn't gonna be too hard?

I wonder too, I thought about it years ago when Contador first talked GT Triple, but in this case I dont think its possible.
Especially because most of the stages are already set imo? Or are usually set weeks before presentation (maybe eshnar can confirm this?)

 

[jens_attacks]

let's face it guys. if the rumours come true and this little fellow will start the giro, alberto will have to ride fast over the mountains

 

[Eshnar]

This was part of a rumor about Nibali, though. I don't think it's beyond RCS to make it part of the negotiations to help secure big name riders. If Conti has a reliable source "within" Astana, which seems to be the case re: earlier rumors about Nibali and Aru, I don't see why not. Nibali apparently seems to have played it smart by not agreeing to anything until they release the route.

He has more chances of winning the Tour than winning the Giro now with Contador in the mix. At this stage it would be smarter for him to focus on T-A, MSR, LBL and the Tour instead, regardless of the route. He probably wants to beat Contador in Italy, though...


Has there been any news about the rumored mountain stages? Is Gavia in, do you think?

I'm not saying it's impossible, mind you. Just saying that for now the rumoured route doesn't look so easy. It probably won't have 8 mountain stages like some other past Giro, but the ones that are in look potentially much tougher than an Unipublic MTF. Anyway, as I said in the AC thread, if both AC and Nibs are going to race it, any talk about "easy" routes goes down the drain. It just won't be an easy race, period. One would think that elite riders had enough experience to realize this, but nowadays I don't expect them to use their brain anymore.

PS: No, no rumours in the last few days, besides a few pretty irrelevant in the first week.

 

[ljpoyz]

Maybe his target is simply to hold all 3 GTs at the one time? Not so much the treble in a calendar year?

I was under the impression that his plan before the knee inury was TDF14, Vuelta 14, Giro 15, Vuelta 15. Which would've given him the opportunity to hold all 3 if he'd won the TDF (wouldn't have).

 

[Eshnar]

Here are the updates:
- Former stage 8 has been merged with stage 9... the new stage 9 would go from Benevento to S.Giorgio del Sannio. They ridicolously close so my hope is a TT. But the rumour mentions a road stage.
- The Treviso - Valdobbiadene ITT is rumoured to be 50+ kms long (hilly), so that means it'll probably be the only ITT.
- I decided to split my 2nd week into 2 alternatives. Personally I hope Kronplatz is there but it looks increasingly unlikely. In any case, a stage is totally missing. It may be stage 10, before Imola, or stage 14, before Marostica, since all rumours agree the ITT would be stage 13.

Stage 1: San Lorenzo a Mare – Sanremo [TTT] *****
Stage 2: Albenga - Genova [flat] *****
Stage 3: Rapallo - Sestri Levante [hilly] ****
Stage 4: Chiavari - La Spezia [hilly] *****
Stage 5: Forte dei Marmi - Abetone [MTF] ****
Stage 6: Montecatini Terme – Castiglione della Pescaia [flat] ****
Stage 7: Grosseto - Viterbo [flat] ***
Stage 8: ??? - ???
Stage 9: Benevento - S.Giorgio del Sannio [hilly] ****
rest
2nd WEEK OPTION 1
Stage 10: ??? - Imola [hilly] ****
Stage 11: Modena? - Vicenza (Monte Berico) [uphill sprint] ****
Stage 12: ??? - Jesolo [flat] ****
Stage 13: Treviso - Valdobbiadene [ITT] ****
Stage 14: Noale - Plan de Corones [MTF] **
Stage 15: Marostica - Madonna di Campiglio 165 km [MTF] *****
2nd WEEK OPTION 2
Stage 10: ??? - ??? [???]
Stage 11: ??? - Imola [hilly] ****
Stage 12: Modena? - Jesolo [flat] ****
Stage 13: Treviso - Valdobbiadene [ITT] ****
Stage 14: ??? - Vicenza [Hilly] ****
Stage 15: Marostica - Madonna di Campiglio 165 km [MTF] *****
rest
Stage 16: Pinzolo - Tirano (with Mortirolo from Mazzo) [Mountain/MTF] ****
Stage 17: Sondrio - Lugano (CH) [flat] ****
Stage 18: Bellinzona (CH) - Verbania [hilly/descent finish] ****
Stage 19: Gravellona Toce - Cervinia [MTF] ****
Stage 20: Ivrea - Sestriere (with Finestre) [MTF] ****
Stage 21: Torino - Milano [flat] ****

 

[Netserk]

No chance for a MTT? Would favour Contador.

 

[Eshnar]

No chance for a MTT? Would favour Contador.

I don't see where...

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

The Treviso - Valdobbiadene TT will probably go over the Montello and/or Santo Stefano. Maybe both would make the route too long.

Still not huge hilly, largely flat with a climb or two.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

I don't see where...

Stage 14, Monte Grappa makes geographical sense, LOL.

 

[Eshnar]

Stage 14, Monte Grappa makes geographical sense, LOL.

I think two ITTs back to back only happened once, in the Giro...

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

I think two ITTs back to back only happened once, in the Giro...

I am a bit surprised it has happened even once.

Still it makes about as much sense as a Noale - Plan de Corones stage does. Either money has talked and they have put in a stage which makes little sense or it is just not happening. Perhaps Plan de Corones will happen but it will start from a more northerly place than Noale, that is my best hope.

 

[Eshnar]

I am a bit surprised it has happened even once.

Still it makes about as much sense as a Noale - Plan de Corones stage does. Either money has talked and they have put in a stage which makes little sense or it is just not happening. Perhaps Plan de Corones will happen but it will start from a more northerly place than Noale, that is my best hope.

I really don't believe it's happening at all. I kept it in my prediction because there are no alternative stages rumoured...

 

[Netserk]

Surely a Kronplatz MTT is possible, no?

 

[Eshnar]

Surely a Kronplatz MTT is possible, no?

do you wanna add a 3+ hrs transfer just before another 3+ hrs tranfer?
Kronplatz is just too far away from anything rumoured. I really don't see it happening.

 

[ILovecycling]

I don't see where...

ten characters
edit: just seen those posts up the page, still wont edit it , its a great pic

 

[Eshnar]

Finally... new rumour about stage 10 to Forlì, and stage 11 from there to Imola.
Now it all makes sense. The 2nd week looks crap, that's for sure.

Stage 1: San Lorenzo a Mare – Sanremo [TTT] *****
Stage 2: Albenga - Genova [flat] *****
Stage 3: Rapallo - Sestri Levante [hilly] ****
Stage 4: Chiavari - La Spezia [hilly] *****
Stage 5: Forte dei Marmi - Abetone [MTF] ****
Stage 6: Montecatini Terme – Castiglione della Pescaia [flat] ****
Stage 7: Grosseto - Viterbo [flat] ***
Stage 8: ??? - ???
Stage 9: Benevento - S.Giorgio del Sannio [hilly] ****
rest
Stage 10: ??? - Forlì [flat] ***
Stage 11: Forlì - Imola [hilly] ****
Stage 12: Modena? - Jesolo [flat] ****
Stage 13: Treviso - Valdobbiadene [ITT] ****
Stage 14: Nervesa? - Vicenza [Hilly] ****
Stage 15: Marostica - Madonna di Campiglio 165 km [MTF] *****
rest
Stage 16: Pinzolo - Tirano (with Mortirolo from Mazzo) [Mountain/MTF] ****
Stage 17: Sondrio - Lugano (CH) [flat] ****
Stage 18: Bellinzona (CH) - Verbania [hilly/descent finish] ****
Stage 19: Gravellona Toce - Cervinia [MTF] ****
Stage 20: Ivrea - Sestriere (with Finestre) [MTF] ****
Stage 21: Torino - Milano [flat] ****