2015 Giro Route Rumours

[Jack_89]

Uhm.
It doesn't seems too hard. Only last week has many mountains.

So, Giro-Tour is possible...

 

[Matt92]

Stage 12 (May 21st) will go from Marostica to Jesolo. Flat stage, probably.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

Coming from the south it seems the only way to St Vigil seems to be going over the Valparola. Or am I wrong?

 

[Eshnar]

Coming from the south it seems the only way to St Vigil seems to be going over the Valparola. Or am I wrong?

it's not the only way, but it's surely the simpler.

Uhm.
It doesn't seems too hard. Only last week has many mountains.

So, Giro-Tour is possible...

it's as hard as always. I frankly don't see what makes you think otherwise

Stage 12 (May 21st) will go from Marostica to Jesolo. Flat stage, probably.

yeah, I read that article too. I'll edit the OP.

 

[Red Rick]

What is the last time there were good mountain stages in the first 12 stages and they didn't end in the Dolomites? Not counting 2009

 

[Eshnar]

What is the last time there were good mountain stages in the first 12 stages and they didn't end in the Dolomites? Not counting 2009

2011?
And 2015 if they do it right...

 

[Jack_89]

it's not the only way, but it's surely the simpler.

it's as hard as always. I frankly don't see what makes you think otherwise

yeah, I read that article too. I'll edit the OP.

6 MTF with Madonna di Campoglio and Abetone not too hard climbs.
First and second weeks with only Abetone and hilly stages.
Final week instead is diffcult as always with ITT and many mountains.

A normal Giro without extremism

 

[Eshnar]

6 MTF with Madonna di Campoglio and Abetone not too hard climbs.
First and second weeks with only Abetone and hilly stages.
Final week instead is diffcult as always with ITT and many mountains.

A normal Giro without extremism

yes. A normal Giro. Meaning hard as always.

 

[Jack_89]

I basically agree

 

[Futuroscope]

I want to see Pantani vs Froome.

 

[Matt92]

So far, we only know the finish places of most stages (with some exceptions), it's too early to tell how next year's route positions itself in comparison with this year's or any other year's.

For instance, the Abetone stage could range from relatively easy (minor climbs + MTF) to very hard (with many climbs and San Pellegrino in Alpe before the MTF). It will probably fall somewhere in the middle of these extreme options, but we don't know yet.

The same thing can be said about most mountain stages: the Tirano stage could finish like the 2008 stage (with Aprica and descent into Tirano) or be a killer stage. Verbania stage could be very hard, same for Cervinia.

I'm not saying it can't be easier than usual, but it's still possible it will actually be even harder.

 

[Stromeon]

From the Giro facebook page.

Giro d'Italia

Lunedì 15 Settembre verrà svelata una delle tappe più importanti del Giro d'Italia 2015.
Indizio: la strada sarà in salita... e che salita!

Monday, September 15 one of the most beautiful stages of the Giro d'Italia 2015 will be unveiled.
Clue: the road will be uphill... and what a climb!
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Those are Dolomites. Plan de Corones maybe?

Definitely Madonna di Campiglio 100%.

A quick bit of research brought me this photo:

A picture of the Brenta Dolomites (Madonna di Campiglio is in the valley below) - the photo on the Giro facebook page was probably taken somewhere around that snowy clearing in the bottom right. Note the distinctive shape of the Cima Tosa and the gap in the trees running down the mountain.

Now just praying for a well-designed stage

 

[Eshnar]

Definitely Madonna di Campiglio 100%.

Now just praying for a well-designed stage

Nice catch.
Well, can't be better than Durone + Daone + Madonna di Campiglio... there aren't better alternatives. Maybe they can climb the Bondone before that.

 

[Eshnar]

Stage 15: Marostica - Madonna di Campiglio 165 km
with Daone before the final climb.

...AAAAND the second week prediction goes to pieces!

At this point it's hard to believe they're going to Kronplatz at all.

 

[Lord Stanley]

Seeing those gradients, isn't Daone descend scary?

 

[Eshnar]

Seeing those gradients, isn't Daone descend scary?

well, it's a challenging descent, but nothing extraordinary

 

[Ferminal]

165km!!!!!

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

First weak mountain stage confirmed. More to follow.

 

[Netserk]

I don't like that they moved the finish to the top. All action now in the last 3km I fear

 

[Eshnar]

all things considered I updated the second week trying to keep Plan de Corones as it was still rumoured, moving Vicenza to stage 14 as it is near Marostica.
An alternative would be having the Grappa on stage 14 maybe.

Stage 1: San Lorenzo a Mare – Sanremo [TTT] *****
Stage 2: Albenga - Genova [flat] *****
Stage 3: Sestri Levante - La Spezia [hilly] *****
Stage 4: Forte dei Marmi - Abetone [MTF] ****
Stage 5: Montecatini Terme – Castiglione della Pescaia [flat] ****
Stage 6: ??? - ???
Stage 7: ??? - Torre del Greco [flat?hilly?] ***
Stage 8: Torre del Greco - S.Giorgio del Sannio [hilly] ****
Stage 9: Benevento - Termoli [flat/hilly] ***
rest
Stage 10: ??? - Imola [hilly] ***
Stage 11: Imola - Jesolo [flat] ****
Stage 12: Treviso - Valdobbiadene [ITT] ****
Stage 13: Noale - Plan de Corones [MTF] ***
Stage 14: ??? - Vicenza (Monte Berico) [uphill sprint] ***
Stage 15: Marostica - Madonna di Campiglio 165 km [MTF] *****
rest
Stage 16: Pinzolo - Tirano (with Mortirolo from Mazzo) [Mountain/MTF] ****
Stage 17: Sondrio - Lugano (CH) [flat] ****
Stage 18: Bellinzona (CH) - Verbania [hilly/descent finish] ****
Stage 19: Gravellona Toce - Cervinia [MTF] ****
Stage 20: Ivrea - Sestriere (with Finestre) [MTF] ****
Stage 21: Torino - Milano [flat] ****

 

[Eshnar]

I don't like that they moved the finish to the top.

Yeah, really a dumb move.

 

[Matt92]

Actually, that's not the top of the typical Passo Campo Carlo Magno climb. They'll finish in Patascoss, which is the start of the Tre Tre ski track, where the World Cup slalom takes place.

I agree, it does not really add much to the stage.

Vegni also said that the stage will be followed by a rest day (that was predicted), and the 16th stage will start from Pinzolo, which is strange, if they finish in Tirano. The typical approach to Mortirolo would be Tonale/Gavia or Tonale/Aprica or something like that, but it would mean they'd climb to Madonna di Campiglio again at the beginning of the 16th stage, before getting to Passo Campo Carlo Magno and descending on Val di Sole to approach Tonale.

Unless they want to approach Mortirolo like they did in 1997, with Goletto di Cadino and Aprica.

 

[pink_jersey]

That stage with finish in Lugano can't be flat if they come from Italy.That area is very hilly.The only chance for a flat stage is if they will come from Bergamo.

 

[Eshnar]

Actually, that's not the top of the typical Passo Campo Carlo Magno climb. They'll finish in Patascoss, which is the start of the Tre Tre ski track, where the World Cup slalom takes place.

I agree, it does not really add much to the stage.

Vegni also said that the stage will be followed by a rest day (that was predicted), and the 16th stage will start from Pinzolo, which is strange, if they finish in Tirano. The typical approach to Mortirolo would be Tonale/Gavia or Tonale/Aprica or something like that, but it would mean they'd climb to Madonna di Campiglio again at the beginning of the 16th stage, before getting to Passo Campo Carlo Magno and descending on Val di Sole to approach Tonale.

Unless they want to approach Mortirolo like they did in 1997, with Goletto di Cadino and Aprica.

Maybe Croce Domini?

 

[Eshnar]

That stage with finish in Lugano can't be flat if they come from Italy.That area is very hilly.The only chance for a flat stage is if they will come from Bergamo.

Can't they just coast the lakes? It's kinda flat there...