2015 Giro Route Rumours

[Eshnar]

Yeah I guess the only interesting thing of the presentation will be the starting town of the stage

 

[fauniera]

Maybe the finish won't be in Madonna di Campiglio but somewhere in the vicinity. Wouldn't know where, though.

 

[Red Rick]

I figured I'd look for the profile of Madonna di Campiglio after all the mentions in this thread, have to say, I was pretty disappointed.

Don't know the history of the climb and how well it connects with other mountains though

 

[Eshnar]

I figured I'd look for the profile of Madonna di Campiglio after all the mentions in this thread, have to say, I was pretty disappointed.

Don't know the history of the climb and how well it connects with other mountains though

it is indeed nothing special. And it connects badly with other climbs. The best option, which is btw the one rumoured, would be this, with Passo Durone and the very interesting Passo Daone (8.3 kms at 9.2%)
The history is what makes it special (in a very depressing way, as the memories there are horrible)

 

[Red Rick]

What's with the history of the climb? Was it after that stage that Pantani got pulled out of the Giro in '99?

 

[Eshnar]

What's with the history of the climb? Was it after that stage that Pantani got pulled out of the Giro in '99?

yep. It's pretty much all the history it has

 

[ILovecycling]

it is indeed nothing special. And it connects badly with other climbs. The best option, which is btw the one rumoured, would be this, with Passo Durone and the very interesting Passo Daone (8.3 kms at 9.2%)
The history is what makes it special (in a very depressing way, as the memories there are horrible)

but durone is a very hard and nice climb iirc?

 

[Eshnar]

but durone is a very hard and nice climb iirc?

......
no.

 

[ILovecycling]

......
no.

ohh probably confused with duran

 

[icefire]

yep. It's pretty much all the history it has

I've read somewhere that it was one of the not very challenging MTFs frequently used during the Moser and Saronni years. Is that true?

 

[Red Rick]

I kinda hate that they're tributing everything to Pantani in the last couple of years, they want to visit every place where Pantani ever took a ****

 

[Ricco']

The Durone + Madonna di Campiglio combo was used in last year's Tour of Pologne stage 1 and if I remember things right it was a snoozefest with 15 riders arriving with the same time.

 

[roundabout]

Pantani beat everyone by a minute in 1999.

 

[Eshnar]

http://corrierealpi.gelocal.it/sport/2014/09/12/news/giro-d-italia-solo-le-briciole-in-provincia-1.9922891

according to that, the ITT will be from Treviso to Valdobbiadene, but it will be on stage 13, while on stage 12 there'll be a stage to Jesolo. That means that the very promising (on paper) stage to Nervesa della Battaglia has been ruled out they also confirm Plan the Corones.
In the last part of the article they mention the rumoured route, which is more or less the same as mine, besides a few differences/improvements:
- stage 9 will finish in Termoli
- stage 7 will finish in Torre del Greco
- stage 17 will start from Sondrio
- stage 20 will start from Ivrea

PS: the stage to Vicenza will actually be a very short uphill sprint to the church of Madonna di Monte Berico.


Stage 1: San Lorenzo a Mare – Sanremo [TTT] *****
Stage 2: Albenga - Genova [flat] *****
Stage 3: Sestri Levante - La Spezia [hilly] *****
Stage 4: Forte dei Marmi - Abetone [MTF] ****
Stage 5: Montecatini Terme – Castiglione della Pescaia [flat] ****
Stage 6: ??? - ???
Stage 7: ??? - Torre del Greco [flat?hilly?] ***
Stage 8: Torre del Greco - S.Giorgio del Sannio [hilly] ****
Stage 9: Benevento - Termoli [flat/hilly] ***
rest
Stage 10: ??? - Imola [hilly] ***
Stage 11: Imola - Vicenza (Monte Berico) [uphill sprint] ***
Stage 12: Vicenza - Jesolo [flat] ***
Stage 13: Treviso - Valdobbiadene [ITT] ****
Stage 14: Noale - Plan de Corones [MTF] ***
Stage 15: ??? - Madonna di Campiglio [MTF] ****
rest
Stage 16: ??? - Tirano (with Mortirolo from Mazzo) [Mountain/MTF] ****
Stage 17: Sondrio - Lugano (CH) [flat] ****
Stage 18: Bellinzona (CH) - Verbania [hilly/descent finish] ****
Stage 19: Gravellona Toce - Cervinia [MTF] ****
Stage 20: Ivrea - Sestriere (with Finestre) [MTF] ****
Stage 21: Torino - Milano [flat] ****

 

[roundabout]

Mortirolo, Finestre and Plan de Corones in the same race

Tirano is 50k from the summit of Mortirolo. How far away from Mortirolo would a potential stage 16 MTF be?

 

[Eshnar]

Mortirolo, Finestre and Plan de Corones in the same race

Tirano is 50k from the summit of Mortirolo. How far away from Mortirolo would a potential stage 16 MTF be?

if the finish is in Forte Sertoli as rumoured, the top of Mortirolo would end up between 50-70 kms to the finish, depending on the option they choose. Needless to say, there are very good ones and very dull ones.

 

[roundabout]

I fear that 70 k from the finish might be too far for Mortirolo to decisively break the race apart

 

[Eshnar]

I fear that 70 k from the finish might be too far for Mortirolo to decisively break the race apart

there's no need to break it there if they choose the right option
but yes, it'll be unlikely with today's cycling. As always.

 

[Dr. Juice]

Pantani beat everyone by a minute in 1999.

Yeah, he attacked with 5 km to go and arrived with 1:07 advantage. Campiglio is a climb with 5.6 % average gradient. Last 2 km are at 2 - 3,5 %.

Cassani stopped the time Pantani did from - 3 km to - 2 km. 2:08 min with that km between 6 and 7 %. 28-29 Km/h. Incredible to watch.
Gained a minute on everybody until 1 km to go. Penultimate km which has around 3 % he did at 37 km/h.
Nobody expected him to attack looking at the profile of the climb and saw Jalabert as the favorite. Imagine what he would have done the day after on Mortirolo

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

Noale seems to be a long way south to start a stage to Plan de Corones. Not much room for climbs before the MTF.

 

[Eshnar]

Noale seems to be a long way south to start a stage to Plan de Corones. Not much room for climbs before the MTF.

Yeah probably just the Falzarego or hopefully the Giau.

 

[jens_attacks]

wait wut? no mortirolo-aprica after all?

 

[Eshnar]

wait wut? no mortirolo-aprica after all?

Mortirolo yes, Aprica maybe.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

Mortirolo yes, Aprica maybe.

Hopefully no Aprica unless the rumors of the finish are wrong and we get Gavia- Mortirolo-Aprica finish.

 

[May0maniac]

Yeah probably just the Falzarego or hopefully the Giau.

Please let it be the Giau.