Martinez will have to ride for Seb Henao though. I find that new rule that WT riders (under 23) can compete in it to be bogus as it distorts from the competition and gives the WT riders a huge advantage.
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No_Balls said:Still better then Tour de France.
BigMac said:No_Balls said:Still better then Tour de France.
Aye.
Now the next be thing is Québec and Montréal.
Already on count down.
Valv.Piti said:BigMac said:No_Balls said:Still better then Tour de France.
Aye.
Now the next be thing is Québec and Montréal.
Already on count down.
Arctic Race of Norway, anyone?
Dont hope you are serious tho, this Vuelta will be a definite blast.
LOL.No_Balls said:Still better then Tour de France.
No_Balls said:I think there are some positive signs which could make up for an intriguing Vuelta. It is sort of balanced and leaves room for racing. It is the best route for years with one or two stages that is having potential to become legendary if raced right (which is higher probability then in France). A very strong lineup which could very well end up in internal turmoil depending on strategies and teamorders. And we are still waiting for confirmation from Froome, i doubt it but still.
Moose McKnuckles said:Another view of the crash yesterday.
That car may have actually saved Brammeier's life. He was headed toward rocks and trees.
Two more crashes right after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=21&v=hRM3bFXlyNk
The two crashes after that again caused by a motorbike. Seriously, what are they all doing there?Moose McKnuckles said:Another view of the crash yesterday.
That car may have actually saved Brammeier's life. He was headed toward rocks and trees.
Two more crashes right after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=21&v=hRM3bFXlyNk
Not a criticism of you, but I feel the need to make clear that WT U23 riders have been allowed to compete in Nations Cup races since at least 2008 (that's the earliest rulebook I could find).greenedge said:Martinez will have to ride for Seb Henao though. I find that new rule that WT riders (under 23) can compete in it to be bogus as it distorts from the competition and gives the WT riders a huge advantage.
Jagartrott said:The two crashes after that again caused by a motorbike. Seriously, what are they all doing there?Moose McKnuckles said:Another view of the crash yesterday.
That car may have actually saved Brammeier's life. He was headed toward rocks and trees.
Two more crashes right after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=21&v=hRM3bFXlyNk
Valv.Piti said:Honestly, it just pisses me off. After a race like Utah where we see the GC on 1 stage out of 7 in a state thats basically just mountains, its still better than Tour de France and the Vuelta sucks anyways. Had this been the Tour, there would have been a public outcry about the disastrous route and the pussy contenders. I mean, are you guys just writing that *** due to it being cool to thrashtalk the GT's and consensus amoung cycling hipsters (apart from the Giro, which apparently is the GT sent down by god, while the other 2 sucks regardless..)? There is simply just no way you would feel that. Through July, you guys who are stating that are as much glued to the tele as every other cycling fan, while pretty much all the best riders in the world minus Contador on some interesting and well designed mountainous parcours in Spain somehow is overshadowed by some shitty races in Canada that got sweeped by frickin Simon Gerrans last year.
Sorry for my rant, but that's just how I feel about that.
greenedge said:Martinez will have to ride for Seb Henao though. I find that new rule that WT riders (under 23) can compete in it to be bogus as it distorts from the competition and gives the WT riders a huge advantage.
Moose McKnuckles said:Another view of the crash yesterday.
That car may have actually saved Brammeier's life. He was headed toward rocks and trees.
Two more crashes right after that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=21&v=hRM3bFXlyNk
ooh, you mentioned Sky... you'll go straight to hell for that oneEnergy Starr said:Just won the Tour of Utah. I have been following him for a few years. I believe he is clean, even though he rode for Sky for a couple of years. I base this on him being really young, always having been really lean and a good climber. He has posted many rides and many of his stats on Strava. From what I can tell, his winning climb to Snowbird was unremarkable compared to TDF climbers. That being said, I am well aware that my reasoning is weak and could quite easily be based on me just hoping that he is clean. I am a big fan of the young man and hope he does well in the upcoming Vuelta, his first GT. Discuss.
Archibald said:ooh, you mentioned Sky... you'll go straight to hell for that oneEnergy Starr said:Just won the Tour of Utah. I have been following him for a few years. I believe he is clean, even though he rode for Sky for a couple of years. I base this on him being really young, always having been really lean and a good climber. He has posted many rides and many of his stats on Strava. From what I can tell, his winning climb to Snowbird was unremarkable compared to TDF climbers. That being said, I am well aware that my reasoning is weak and could quite easily be based on me just hoping that he is clean. I am a big fan of the young man and hope he does well in the upcoming Vuelta, his first GT. Discuss.
As you say, unremarkable climb - he beat Frank Schleck
Energy Starr said:Archibald said:ooh, you mentioned Sky... you'll go straight to hell for that oneEnergy Starr said:Just won the Tour of Utah. I have been following him for a few years. I believe he is clean, even though he rode for Sky for a couple of years. I base this on him being really young, always having been really lean and a good climber. He has posted many rides and many of his stats on Strava. From what I can tell, his winning climb to Snowbird was unremarkable compared to TDF climbers. That being said, I am well aware that my reasoning is weak and could quite easily be based on me just hoping that he is clean. I am a big fan of the young man and hope he does well in the upcoming Vuelta, his first GT. Discuss.
As you say, unremarkable climb - he beat Frank Schleck
Lol. Yeah. I know. I was basing that on Strava numbers. I can't remember exactly but according to Strava he did the climb at 279 watts (or something). I'll have to look it up again to get the exact number.