2015 Tour de France: Stage 1, Utrecht-Utrecht

[Cance > TheRest]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

Was that a real question? cobbles

 

[Rollthedice]

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Obviously the earlier guys like quintana. Hard to believe froome only took 10 sec on quintana.

But nibali is in monster shape.

His new roommate, Scarponi said that he is stronger than last year. I'm starting to belive this.

 

[huge]

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Nibali ahead of Froome is surprising. Didn't like Alberto at all in the TT, but 8 seconds from Froome is still less than one second per k, which means he's in line with the first TT performance at the Dauphine last year. Still he didn't look smooth. Quintana road well. Nibali, of course, won the first round. This will give him super confidence for the cobbles on stage 4.

Before the cobbles comes Mur de Huy.

 

[rm7]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

I don't know if you already forgot last year? Of course the rain played a part, but it could be 1-1:30 before the mountains, also if Astana are very strong in the TTT.

But Tinkoff Saxo looks good for the TTT, but SKY looks little bad.

 

[Escarabajo]

For all people who came to the Forum late, the wind did not change direction, it just picked up a bit more.

I called it many time many pages ago.

Thanks!!!!!!!!

 

[Netserk]

Kelderman +30''
Mollema +37''
Pinot +41''
Van Garderen +42''
Nibali +43''
Froome +50''
Valverde +56''
Contador +58''
Péraud +59''
Quintana +1'01''
Purito +1'26''

 

[Walkman]

Did Martin and Cancellara say anything about the wind?

 

[franic]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

Cobbles? TTT?

 

[BYOP88]

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For mr Miburo

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Vuelta_a_Andalucia_Ruta_Ciclista_Del_Sol_2015_Stage_32
(beating Contador, Froome, Jungels, Kiryenka..)

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Criterium_du_Dauphine_2014_Stage_1_Lyon
Speaks for itself, top field, 10km, he was 5th..

Giro ITT's are obvious
Moving on:
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/Post_Danmark_Rundt_Tour_of_Denmark_2013_Stage_5_Holbk
Weak field, but a win on that distance

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=116749
Paris Nice prologue

And ofcourse this one:
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=110919
In 2011, when he was not even 20.

If in top form like Dauphine last year Kelderman can easily do a top 10 in such field

I will bet my ballsack kelderman won't top ten here. still hilarious though how you overrate the dutch :tranen:

hahahahahaha

That's going to be painful!!!

 

[cellardoor]

Quick calculation:

Uran 40secs
Pinot +1
TJ +2
Nibali +3
Froome +10
Valverde +16
Contador +18
Peraud +19
Quintana +21
Zubeldia +21
Talansky +35
Purito +46
Bardet +54

 

[Mozart92]

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Obviously the earlier guys like quintana. Hard to believe froome only took 10 sec on quintana.

But nibali is in monster shape.

His new roommate, Scarponi said that he is stronger than last year. I'm starting to belive this.

Don't forget Quintana. For a short rider like him to lose only 11s on Froome is an incredible achievement. He's in super shape too.

 

[Mr.White]

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There it was again. The booing off Froome. Not a popular man in Holland?

He's hardly popular anywhere

 

[Alcanelo]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

The way he did it last year?

By them crashing out

 

[Brullnux]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

Unlikely, but cobbles, echelons will help him, Huy and Bretagne against NQ and dawg.

 

[rhubroma]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

I don't know if you already forgot last year? Of course the rain played a part, but it could be 1-1:30 before the mountains, also if Astana are very strong in the TTT.

But Tinkoff Saxo looks good for the TTT, but SKY looks little bad.

Yes, but it is the cobbles where Nibali can take big time if things go as last year. On the Mur, by contrast, he wouldn't take more than a few seconds. Although right now, he certainly looks to be a force on the Mur as well.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

Cobbles? TTT?

Can't see Astana making up big ground here. TCS, SKY and MOV are all very good in that discipline

 

[mr. tibbs]

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Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

Echelons (less likely) and the stones (more likely), for two. This is a sketchy first week, and Nibali's proven that he's more than capable of taking advantage of stages that ride like classics.

 

[Kwibus]

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I will bet my ballsack kelderman won't top ten here. still hilarious though how you overrate the dutch :tranen:

hahahahahaha

Can we now please get a video of Ryo where he smashes his ballsack with a hammer. Not that I will watch...

 

[Escarabajo]

Good time for Uran. Maybe carrying that good form from the end of the Giro!!

 

[huge]

If cobbles are ridden in dry weather, as it looks very likely, it's gonna be a total different story than last year.

 

[franic]

Re: Re:

Impressive. Nibali, who most here rated as an inferior TTer compared to Contador and Froome beats them under the same conditions. He continues to surprise.

...Yep.

Happy for Pinot. The wind must have changed toward the end. Good day all around. I wouldn't mind seeing Froome, Quintana, and Contador with 1:30 or 2:00 to make up on Nibali in the mountains. Would make for spectacular racing.

How in the name of God will Nibali put nearly 2 minutes into them before the mountains?

I don't know if you already forgot last year? Of course the rain played a part, but it could be 1-1:30 before the mountains, also if Astana are very strong in the TTT.

But Tinkoff Saxo looks good for the TTT, but SKY looks little bad.

Yes, but it is the cobbles where Nibali can take big time if things go as last year. On the Mur, by contrast, he wouldn't take more than a few seconds. Although right now, he certainly looks to be a force on the Mur as well.

I seriously doubt Nibali will be in front of Contador on the Mur…Contador has much more power. Last year, when Contador was inferior, he was able to put 2/3” in front of Nibali on the first hill

 

[Kwibus]

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For all people who came to the Forum late, the wind did not change direction, it just picked up a bit more.

I called it many time many pages ago.

Thanks!!!!!!!!

Indeed. Dutch tv confirmed an increase of wind at the end of the race.

 

[DBotero]

Nice win for Dennis,Cancellara not good enough today.Bad ITT for Froome,good one for Nibali.I still don't get it how Pinot was faster then all those guys,insane really.

 

[franic]

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If cobbles are ridden in dry weather, as it looks very likely, it's gonna be a total different story than last year.

Dry cobbles require a lot of raw power

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Lo Squalo continues as he left off last year