2015 Tour de France: Stage 1, Utrecht-Utrecht

[Jspear]

What differences do you expect between the Big 4? I think Quintana could lose about 30-40 seconds to Froome. Contador and Nibali should be much closer (maybe 10-15 seconds behind Alien).

I'm not going to even try and predict the time gaps. I'll just say I think Quintana will be the biggest loser and I think the other 3 will be relatively close to each other.

Is Froome as good on a more technical route? I don't think this is the best route to use your pure power advantage.

 

[concorde]

What differences do you expect between the Big 4? I think Quintana could lose about 30-40 seconds to Froome. Contador and Nibali should be much closer (maybe 10-15 seconds behind Alien).

I think no more than 20 seconds loss for Quintana, to Contador,Nibali and Froome. Quintana is the first to start out of GC contenders so the other 3 will use his time as motivation for the track. They all have fresh legs, something that aint good for Quintana. But 20 seconds on 13.8Km is my educational bet ..

Wont matter, i think Quintana will be second overall even with 1 minute loss here

 

[Kwibus]

What differences do you expect between the Big 4? I think Quintana could lose about 30-40 seconds to Froome. Contador and Nibali should be much closer (maybe 10-15 seconds behind Alien).

I wouldn't be surprised if Contador is faster then Froome. I doubt Contadors form though.

 

[Escarabajo]

Re:

Froome starting 1 minute behind Contador in a prologue like time trial? Might just be a Lance Jan moment.

None of the big four this year are as undisciplined as Jan was. How did he come so out of shape to the beginning of some of the Tours is beyond me!

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador just slightly faster than Froome, Nibali about 10s behind, Quintana 35s.

 

[Escarabajo]

Why did Quintana chose to start so early???

Is he betting on some rain? I guess he knows he is going to loose some time anyway so why not start early.

 

[qwer]

Re:

Why did Quintana chose to start so early???

Is he betting on some rain? I guess he knows he is going to loose some time anyway so why not start early.

he fears contador... 1 minute isn't much...

 

[Gigs_98]

What differences do you expect between the Big 4? I think Quintana could lose about 30-40 seconds to Froome. Contador and Nibali should be much closer (maybe 10-15 seconds behind Alien).

I'm not going to even try and predict the time gaps. I'll just say I think Quintana will be the biggest loser and I think the other 3 will be relatively close to each other.

Is Froome as good on a more technical route? I don't think this is the best route to use your pure power advantage.

Is the route really that technical?

 

[deValtos]

Re: Re:

Froome starting 1 minute behind Contador in a prologue like time trial? Might just be a Lance Jan moment.

None of the big four this year are as undisciplined as Jan was. How did he come so out of shape to the beginning of some of the Tours is beyond me!

To be fair to Jan he had just crashed straight through the back windscreen of a car infront of him the day before. Still came 12th.

 

[Netserk]

What differences do you expect between the Big 4? I think Quintana could lose about 30-40 seconds to Froome. Contador and Nibali should be much closer (maybe 10-15 seconds behind Alien).

I'm not going to even try and predict the time gaps. I'll just say I think Quintana will be the biggest loser and I think the other 3 will be relatively close to each other.

Is Froome as good on a more technical route? I don't think this is the best route to use your pure power advantage.

Is the route really that technical?

No.

 

[Miburo]

Re: Re:

Why did Quintana chose to start so early???

Is he betting on some rain? I guess he knows he is going to loose some time anyway so why not start early.

he fears contador... 1 minute isn't much...

Wouldn't be surprised. Contador gotta care for froome though

 

[Jspear]

What differences do you expect between the Big 4? I think Quintana could lose about 30-40 seconds to Froome. Contador and Nibali should be much closer (maybe 10-15 seconds behind Alien).

I'm not going to even try and predict the time gaps. I'll just say I think Quintana will be the biggest loser and I think the other 3 will be relatively close to each other.

Is Froome as good on a more technical route? I don't think this is the best route to use your pure power advantage.

Is the route really that technical?

I think it has enough turns to where if you're good at putting out a lot of power, it won't give you as much of an advantage as it could on another course.

 

[concorde]

What differences do you expect between the Big 4? I think Quintana could lose about 30-40 seconds to Froome. Contador and Nibali should be much closer (maybe 10-15 seconds behind Alien).

I'm not going to even try and predict the time gaps. I'll just say I think Quintana will be the biggest loser and I think the other 3 will be relatively close to each other.

Is Froome as good on a more technical route? I don't think this is the best route to use your pure power advantage.

Is the route really that technical?

I think it has enough turns to where if you're good at putting out a lot of power, it won't give you as much of an advantage as it could on another course.

The riders say u dont have to brake into the corners, its a very easy flat track .. I will be very suprised if we dont see 10 time trial specialists in the top 10. GC riders out of top ten..

 

[concorde]

I dont like helping ppl competing in competitions to much, but i cant help it . I play the odds for money mostly, so i dont care.

I think the black horses for tomorrow is Boasson, Rohan and Barta.

Best GC rider i predict will be Garderen.. 10-12th position.

 

[blackmamba]

I dont like helping ppl competing in competitions to much, but i cant help it . I play the odds for money mostly, so i dont care.

I think the black horses for tomorrow is Boasson, Rohan and Barta.

Best GC rider i predict will be Garderen.. 10-12th position.

if you like money then I suggest you put alot of it on Martin for the win, easy! rohan etc is cool riders but it has to be a missfortune for Martin not to win its simple.

 

[Midrider]

What differences do you expect between the Big 4? I think Quintana could lose about 30-40 seconds to Froome. Contador and Nibali should be much closer (maybe 10-15 seconds behind Alien).

I'm not going to even try and predict the time gaps. I'll just say I think Quintana will be the biggest loser and I think the other 3 will be relatively close to each other.

Is Froome as good on a more technical route? I don't think this is the best route to use your pure power advantage.

Is the route really that technical?

No.

Just rode the route. It's not technical at all. At least 12 out of the 13.8k's are full throttle.

 

[blackmamba]

What differences do you expect between the Big 4? I think Quintana could lose about 30-40 seconds to Froome. Contador and Nibali should be much closer (maybe 10-15 seconds behind Alien).

I'm not going to even try and predict the time gaps. I'll just say I think Quintana will be the biggest loser and I think the other 3 will be relatively close to each other.

Is Froome as good on a more technical route? I don't think this is the best route to use your pure power advantage.

Is the route really that technical?

No.

Just rode the route. It's not technical at all. At least 12 out of the 13.8k's are full throttle.

Rode it yesterday myself and came to talk a nice 15min chat with EBH I think he might surprise someone tomorrow said hes riding with a chip on his shoulders again.

 

[Punkan]

If Froome is close to the same timetrial shape as in 2013 he could distance Contador and Nibali with 20-30 seconds, and Quintana with even more. Remember stage 11 in TDF 2013 where he was just 12 seconds behind Martin over 33k on a fairly flat course (and 2 minutes ahead of Contador).

Very curious about his TT shape.

 

[Punkan]

Rode it yesterday myself and came to talk a nice 15min chat with EBH I think he might surprise someone tomorrow said hes riding with a chip on his shoulders again.

Definately think EBH can break into top 10. Although this one is a bit longer than a prologue, EBH has done some really strong prologues before. And he will be highly prepared for this one since he know that a strong TT could give him a smal smal opportunity to grab yellow on stage 3 or 4.

 

[blackmamba]

Re:

If Froome is close to the same timetrial shape as in 2013 he could distance Contador and Nibali with 20-30 seconds, and Quintana with even more. Remember stage 11 in TDF 2013 where he was just 12 seconds behind Martin over 33k on a fairly flat course (and 2 minutes ahead of Contador).

Very curious about his TT shape.

If froome is in 2013 TT form he wont take 20-30 sec on Contador (nor Nibali) if your memory serves you, you would remember that that tour had very special circumstances for Contador and froome actually has lost many TT' s to Contador ever since but this imo goes with the fact that Froome has yet to ever show any signs of that 2013 freakish form (since 2013) and Contador was worst in 2013 for natural reasons.

That beeing said tho im curious about Froome's TT form too and also Contadors (mainly cause of the giro blabla) Froome vs Contador both at 100% I would suspect Froome to gain some time on Contador on this TT (since its so flat and STRAIGHT) but not nearly 20-30sec!

 

[Supimilian]

Rode it yesterday myself and came to talk a nice 15min chat with EBH I think he might surprise someone tomorrow said hes riding with a chip on his shoulders again.

Definately think EBH can break into top 10. Although this one is a bit longer than a prologue, EBH has done some really strong prologues before. And he will be highly prepared for this one since he know that a strong TT could give him a smal smal opportunity to grab yellow on stage 3 or 4.

Technical course should suit him very well. He was extremely strong at the national championships also.
Speaking of chips on shoulders, I think Sagan might surprise some people tomorrow. He might even win it as well. Reckon they both have a chance. Pretty sure they will both top 10 at least.

 

[blackmamba]

Rode it yesterday myself and came to talk a nice 15min chat with EBH I think he might surprise someone tomorrow said hes riding with a chip on his shoulders again.

Definately think EBH can break into top 10. Although this one is a bit longer than a prologue, EBH has done some really strong prologues before. And he will be highly prepared for this one since he know that a strong TT could give him a smal smal opportunity to grab yellow on stage 3 or 4.

Technical course should suit him very well. He was extremely strong at the national championships also.
Speaking of chips on shoulders, I think Sagan might surprise some people tomorrow. He might even win it as well. Reckon they both have a chance. Pretty sure they will both top 10 at least.

Yeah think thats very possible too.

 

[Punkan]

Rode it yesterday myself and came to talk a nice 15min chat with EBH I think he might surprise someone tomorrow said hes riding with a chip on his shoulders again.

Definately think EBH can break into top 10. Although this one is a bit longer than a prologue, EBH has done some really strong prologues before. And he will be highly prepared for this one since he know that a strong TT could give him a smal smal opportunity to grab yellow on stage 3 or 4.

Technical course should suit him very well. He was extremely strong at the national championships also.
Speaking of chips on shoulders, I think Sagan might surprise some people tomorrow. He might even win it as well. Reckon they both have a chance. Pretty sure they will both top 10 at least.

Sagan will surely be up there, might just be a couple of kilometers to long for a win. If he can minimize the time loss to Dumoulin, I think he will have a good chance of grabbing yellow on the Huy-stage.

 

[concorde]

Rode it yesterday myself and came to talk a nice 15min chat with EBH I think he might surprise someone tomorrow said hes riding with a chip on his shoulders again.

Definately think EBH can break into top 10. Although this one is a bit longer than a prologue, EBH has done some really strong prologues before. And he will be highly prepared for this one since he know that a strong TT could give him a smal smal opportunity to grab yellow on stage 3 or 4.

Technical course should suit him very well. He was extremely strong at the national championships also.
Speaking of chips on shoulders, I think Sagan might surprise some people tomorrow. He might even win it as well. Reckon they both have a chance. Pretty sure they will both top 10 at least.

Sagan will surely be up there, might just be a couple of kilometers to long for a win. If he can minimize the time loss to Dumoulin, I think he will have a good chance of grabbing yellow on the Huy-stage.

No way, Kristoff or Cav will have the edge after stage 2.. I think Cav wins ahead of Kristoff stage 2, Sagan 4-5.

 

[Punkan]

Rode it yesterday myself and came to talk a nice 15min chat with EBH I think he might surprise someone tomorrow said hes riding with a chip on his shoulders again.

Definately think EBH can break into top 10. Although this one is a bit longer than a prologue, EBH has done some really strong prologues before. And he will be highly prepared for this one since he know that a strong TT could give him a smal smal opportunity to grab yellow on stage 3 or 4.

Technical course should suit him very well. He was extremely strong at the national championships also.
Speaking of chips on shoulders, I think Sagan might surprise some people tomorrow. He might even win it as well. Reckon they both have a chance. Pretty sure they will both top 10 at least.

Sagan will surely be up there, might just be a couple of kilometers to long for a win. If he can minimize the time loss to Dumoulin, I think he will have a good chance of grabbing yellow on the Huy-stage.

No way, Kristoff or Cav will have the edge after stage 2.. I think Cav wins ahead of Kristoff stage 2, Sagan 4-5

Kristoff and Cav wont match Sagan on Huy (stage 3) and they wont have enough time on him after stage 1-2 to be ahead of him after stage 3.