2015 tour de france stage 3, Antwerpen-Hoei 159.5km

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Jan 27, 2012
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From today's stages, a wonderful picture before mayhem occurred.
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Sep 2, 2011
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Dumoulin in yellow jersey tomorrow barring crashes. I'm expecting Contador and Nibbles in the top10. They could gain a few seconds on Froome and Quintana.

Easy Valverde win.
 
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How aggressive do you all think the Cherave climb will be? Will a team keep things together forcing a strong selection, or will a few unimportant (GC) guys going off the front early cause others to follow, blowing the race apart before the Huy? I at least cannot see the main group hit the Huy with more than 50 riders, probably more like 20-40 but I don't feel very qualified to guess.
 
Aug 28, 2012
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LaFlorecita said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.
Hmm? Froome far more explosive? Not at all, Contador is super explosive. If Contador doesn't beat Froome, it's because he is lacking racing rhythm.

Froome did win a mountain sprint against Alberto last year.
 
Jul 29, 2012
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MatParker117 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.
Hmm? Froome far more explosive? Not at all, Contador is super explosive. If Contador doesn't beat Froome, it's because he is lacking racing rhythm.

Froome did win a mountain sprint against Alberto last year.

What are you talking about? The Mur isn't a mountain, terrible analogy. That said i think Froome is underestimated by many, he'll do fine on the mur.
 
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What are the chances of a breakaway? Granted, the stage is pretty short - but a lot of riders are so far back that they pose no thread to the yellow jersey, and Trek shouldn't have too big of an interest to drag everyone to the finish and jeopardize Cancellara's lead. Movistar and Astana have to try and put pressure on Sky and Tinkoff though, and Katusha might pull for Rodriguez. Orica might also lend a hand, as well as LottoJumbo, Lampre and Cannondale... well, in the end I'd say the chances for a breakaway are pretty slim :)
 
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Miburo said:
MatParker117 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.
Hmm? Froome far more explosive? Not at all, Contador is super explosive. If Contador doesn't beat Froome, it's because he is lacking racing rhythm.

Froome did win a mountain sprint against Alberto last year.

What are you talking about? The Mur isn't a mountain, terrible analogy. That said i think Froome is underestimated by many, he'll do fine on the mur.

It's gonna be epic seeing Froome motor up the Mur without going out of the saddle once
 
Aug 28, 2012
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Miburo said:
MatParker117 said:
LaFlorecita said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.
Hmm? Froome far more explosive? Not at all, Contador is super explosive. If Contador doesn't beat Froome, it's because he is lacking racing rhythm.

Froome did win a mountain sprint against Alberto last year.

What are you talking about? The Mur isn't a mountain, terrible analogy. That said i think Froome is underestimated by many, he'll do fine on the mur.

Was trying to prove that Froome does have some punch. Think he'll do fine on the Mur as well and be in the Top 10 (if the opportunity for the stage is there he'll be in the sprint as well). Valverde to be spotty though.
 
Jun 25, 2015
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Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.

o_O

o_O

Nibali have done FW many times but he never got a good result. Never in top 10 , it's quite simple : short and steep climbs don't suit him. This is a fact , a statistic of his career.
A similar analys we can do for Froome.

The only doubt is about Contador : how his lacking racing legs can afflict him?
 
Aug 28, 2012
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Matteo. said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.

o_O

o_O

Nibali have done FW many times but he never got a good result. Never in top 10 , it's quite simple : short and steep climbs don't suit him. This is a fact , a statistic of his career.
A similar analys we can do for Froome.

The only doubt is about Contador : how his lacking racing legs can afflict him?

Finish of La Planche in 2012?
 
Mar 17, 2012
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pedromiguelmartins said:
After today's stage and the whole month of June, if they don't ride it hard (possible after what happened today) Sagan will smoke them.

Well, most importantly, sagan doesn't need to smoke them, he just needs to follow the right wheel. He should be able to outsprint whoever it is.
 
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Quintana can do everything including this. Remember Alpe d'Huez two years ago where he crushed Rodriguez hard in the final 300 metres.
 
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ciranda said:
Quintana can do everything including this. Remember Alpe d'Huez two years ago where he crushed Rodriguez hard in the final 300 metres.
uhh but alpe d huez is not 1.3 km long ;)
 
Jul 12, 2013
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LaFlorecita said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.
Hmm? Froome far more explosive? Not at all, Contador is super explosive. If Contador doesn't beat Froome, it's because he is lacking racing rhythm.

Froome usually excels in short steep climbs (Pena Cabarga, PDBF, Allandas, Monte Castrove, Camperona).
Contador beat Froome fair and square in Covadonga and Farrapona but prior to those days he got distanced in Camperona. And Camperona resembles Huy much more than the previously mentioned two climbs. Huy is shorter ofc and Contador in top form also excels in those types of finishes (Mende, Bretagne). But right now he doesn't seem to have the form of Bretagne 2011 (different build up approach this year most probably)
 
May 15, 2011
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Ataraxus said:
LaFlorecita said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.
Hmm? Froome far more explosive? Not at all, Contador is super explosive. If Contador doesn't beat Froome, it's because he is lacking racing rhythm.
. Huy is shorter ofc and Contador in top form also excels in those types of finishes (Mende, Bretagne). But right now he doesn't seem to have the form of Bretagne 2011 (different build up approach this year most probably)
Seen Giro stage 12?
 
Jul 12, 2013
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Matteo. said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.

o_O

o_O

Nibali have done FW many times but he never got a good result. Never in top 10 , it's quite simple : short and steep climbs don't suit him. This is a fact , a statistic of his career.
A similar analys we can do for Froome.

The only doubt is about Contador : how his lacking racing legs can afflict him?

Do make the analysis of Froome please . With respect to Contador ofc. And don't forget to include results and evidence.
 
Jul 12, 2013
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LaFlorecita said:
Ataraxus said:
LaFlorecita said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.
Hmm? Froome far more explosive? Not at all, Contador is super explosive. If Contador doesn't beat Froome, it's because he is lacking racing rhythm.
. Huy is shorter ofc and Contador in top form also excels in those types of finishes (Mende, Bretagne). But right now he doesn't seem to have the form of Bretagne 2011 (different build up approach this year most probably)
Seen Giro stage 12?

what's your point in that sentence? Seriously.
 
May 22, 2014
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Matteo. said:
Ataraxus said:
Matteo. said:
Valverde/ Purito FTW

Contador top 5

Nibali Froome top 10

Quintana top 15


I don't see Contador finishing ahead of Nibs and Froome on this one (Assuming they tackle Huy together ofc.). Froome is far more explosive and Nibs seems to have the form that Contador doesn't have yet.

o_O

o_O

Nibali have done FW many times but he never got a good result. Never in top 10 , it's quite simple : short and steep climbs don't suit him. This is a fact , a statistic of his career.
A similar analys we can do for Froome.

The only doubt is about Contador : how his lacking racing legs can afflict him?

Nibali came 8th in 2012 lol. He might not be favourite to actually take the stage but he's ridden well on the climb several times before and he's probably in as good (if not better) condition here as he ever has been for FW

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Not sure I agree with people saying Sagan is an option here. To me it looks like he's carrying more muscle than he has been for a while. Feels like he might have packed on the power for the sprints and may have a tougher time than before on the harder uphill finishes.