2015 Tour of California May 10-17 2015 (2.HC)

[Rollthedice]

Sagan smashes it.

 

[BigMac]

Nice effort from Skujinš nevertheless. He made this race so far, chapeau.

 

[Tank Engine]

Sagan takes stage and yellow.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Good effort from Skujins. Keeps 2nd place

 

[greenedge]

Great ride by Sagan, that will show Tinkov!

 

[jaylew]

Sagan scarfing gummy bears - nice recovery snack

 

[Bushman]

Whoa, Sagan easy there. Blasting the time trial completely, didn't even need to sprint for the line. He looked extremely powerful out there.

And Alaphillippe, what a rider. Not a lot he can't do. Also great time by Rosskopff, he can climb as well, right? Good times by Henao and Mccarthy also. Henao should win tomorrow, hoping for a good performance from Mccarthy. In this shape Sagan could top 10.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Damn, what a crappy race. Thank you, Skujins, you've been the only redeeming feature this has.

Well, the stages Cavendish won had the redeeming feature that Sagan DIDN'T win them, which is always satisfying, but it's not like I like Cavendish even remotely, just that Sagan losing is better than Sagan winning.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re:

Whoa, Sagan easy there. Blasting the time trial completely, didn't even need to sprint for the line. He looked extremely powerful out there.

And Alaphillippe, what a rider. Not a lot he can't do. Also great time by Rosskopff, he can climb as well, right? Good times by Henao and Mccarthy also. Henao should win tomorrow, hoping for a good performance from Mccarthy. In this shape Sagan could top 10.

On the stage? or overall? I doubt neither of the 2 scenarios will happen.

 

[BigMac]

Re:

Damn, what a crappy race. Thank you, Skujins, you've been the only redeeming feature this has.

Well, the stages Cavendish won had the redeeming feature that Sagan DIDN'T win them, which is always satisfying, but it's not like I like Cavendish even remotely, just that Sagan losing is better than Sagan winning.

Reserve some hopes for tomorrow.

 

[SeriousSam]

Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

 

[Jspear]

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Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

He has done well before in short tt's. Not to surprising.
Edit: Just checked. He has beat Fabian before in a short tt.

 

[jaylew]

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Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

Not sure why you're surprised. Sagan can TT quite well, particularly shortish ones. I actually figured he'd be the favorite

 

[BigMac]

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Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

What's the surprise, it was just over 10km's. No need to swell them cerebral vessels over it.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Re:

Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

Cavendish is approximately 4758365837x more likable than Peter Sagan.

And Cavendish, most of the time, is an unlikable tool. He is, however, far more likable now than he was 5 years ago. A bit of a bad time and being touchable has done wonders for his likability now that he no longer expects victory to arrive on a silver platter nor fires off the abusive excuses every time he doesn't win, or does win but not easily enough, or sees André Greipel.

If Peter Sagan came to the finishing line in a four man group with Chris Froome, Simon Gerrans and Mark Cavendish, I would still want him to finish 4th.

 

[tomorrow]

Re:

Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

well, with the distance, it was more of a prologue than a proper time trial. An sagan winning prologue with no Malori, Martin, Cancellara is not that big of a surprise.

As far as tomorrow is concerned, I don't think sagan will even bother to try, at some point, he will just wave to the cameras, Mount Baldy and Green Mountain are his favourite for this

 

[Taxus4a]

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Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

He has improved his position a lot form the behining. and his motivation in ITT. It is not the fort ITt that he win, anyway, but always short.

Last year in San Luis he did better than several especialist, he was ok as well in California, and in the Tour de France, with all the best of the world, he did a good ITT: http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=24039

 

[BigMac]

Re: Re:

Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

Cavendish is approximately 4758365837x more likable than Peter Sagan.

And Cavendish, most of the time, is an unlikable tool. He is, however, far more likable now than he was 5 years ago. A bit of a bad time and being touchable has done wonders for his likability now that he no longer expects victory to arrive on a silver platter nor fires off the abusive excuses every time he doesn't win, or does win but not easily enough, or sees André Greipel.

If Peter Sagan came to the finishing line in a four man group with Chris Froome, Simon Gerrans and Mark Cavendish, I would still want him to finish 4th.

I'm really curious, did your despise for Sagan exist before Podiumgate episode?

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

Great ride by Jim Furyk.

 

[SeriousSam]

Re: Re:

Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

Cavendish is approximately 4758365837x more likable than Peter Sagan.

And Cavendish, most of the time, is an unlikable tool. He is, however, far more likable now than he was 5 years ago. A bit of a bad time and being touchable has done wonders for his likability now that he no longer expects victory to arrive on a silver platter nor fires off the abusive excuses every time he doesn't win, or does win but not easily enough, or sees André Greipel.

If Peter Sagan came to the finishing line in a four man group with Chris Froome, Simon Gerrans and Mark Cavendish, I would still want him to finish 4th.

Nothing worse than an inherently, fundamentally unlikeable guy toning it down some because his lack of success would make it utterly absurd if he didn't. I don't forgive, and I don't forget!

Re Sagan, I don't really what see could prompt the hate, but I do think I asked you to explain teh hate before, perhaps 2 years ago or so, but I don't recall your answer. I could give numerous examples where Cavendish was being a douche in interviews. Can you do the same for Sagan?

 

[Eagle]

Re: Re:

Sagan wins a time trial? Must have been a joke time trial at a joke race against joke competition. At least Sagan is a likeable chap unlike Cavendish he's surely going to win at least another stage. Bah.

Cavendish is approximately 4758365837x more likable than Peter Sagan.

And Cavendish, most of the time, is an unlikable tool. He is, however, far more likable now than he was 5 years ago. A bit of a bad time and being touchable has done wonders for his likability now that he no longer expects victory to arrive on a silver platter nor fires off the abusive excuses every time he doesn't win, or does win but not easily enough, or sees André Greipel.

If Peter Sagan came to the finishing line in a four man group with Chris Froome, Simon Gerrans and Mark Cavendish, I would still want him to finish 4th.

I'm really curious, did your despise for Sagan exist before Podiumgate episode?

Might be since T-shirtgate

 

[Netserk]

It's the whole package. Celebrations, immature, attention-whore, things-come-way-too-easily, T-short, assgrabbing etc.



I for one really like him. I guess this calls for a picture of my previous avatar.

 

[TMP402]

Re:

Damn, what a crappy race. Thank you, Skujins, you've been the only redeeming feature this has.

Well, the stages Cavendish won had the redeeming feature that Sagan DIDN'T win them, which is always satisfying, but it's not like I like Cavendish even remotely, just that Sagan losing is better than Sagan winning.

Just think, in 100 years, when the current GTs have ended and faded into obscurity, people will look at the main GT of the 22nd century, the Tour of California, and think of Sagan as a Coppi-like god of cycling.

But in all seriousness I find it pleasingly noble that the ToC hasn't yet produced a route for Sagan to win the overall.

 

[SeriousSam]

So who is going to win the overall. Surely not that Hincapie guy.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

As netserk says, it's the whole package. I've disliked him since 2011, and the dislike became full on antipathy as time went on as his profile grew bigger and the scale of his self-absorbed, attention-whoring douchebaggery grew exponentially with it.