2015 Tour of California May 10-17 2015 (2.HC)

[vedrafjord]

Or Sean Kelly 1988 Vuelta.

 

[rafaelalencar]

Sagan already dropped Contador, Froome, Uran, etc, once. He deserved. Very well done. He had to put more effort than the climbers. I respect him more now.

 

[Tank Engine]

Re: Re:

I know the climb to Anzère very well and I can tell you that it was real mountain, even up to Ayent, the hardest part of the climb was at the start. So it was Cancellara's credit to be able to carry his 85kg up there. Crans-Montana might not be that hard but Anzère/Ayent is hard. And ITT's are the ultimate tests in the cycling sport. They are races that don't cheat, you can draft. It's mano a mano. It means that Cancellara deserved that win, a hundred time.

On the other hand, even if Sagan won the ITT (but altered, which is in his favour), he also won it on time bonuses, which is as you say, artificial. Alaphilippe covered the whole distance faster than him. In my opinion he's the true winner, period. And for the guy who truly thinks I find excuse for rooting for my faves against a foe, I'll remind you that I already said the same 5 years ago: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2479&p=186226&hilit=Terpstra#p186226

So it turns out I'm the same height and weight as Cancellara. That means I've got no excuse for being a worse climber than Kittel

 

[manafana]

amazing ride by both doesn't matter who won rules are set out real early no issues

 

[orangerider]

Good team effort especially Bennati, don't think they could've done it without him calling the shots and doing some massively long pulls at the front. Hysterical shots of Jesus trying to do his short pulls, you could see even he was at his max.

 

[Echoes]

Is it true for Kelly?

I of course knew about the Saronni/Visentini matter and still consider Visentini the winner of that Tour of Italy.

Actually, I have a book by Marc Jeuniau from 1981 in which he deplored the fact that the Tour of Italy succumbed to this mode that very year and that Battaglin also capitalized on the time bonuses to defeat Tommy Prim of Sweden. Marc Jeuniau is a charismatic commentator from the RTBF and already had a long experience behind him then. So he's quite a respectable man who said exactly what I'm saying but long before me (and a few other posters here).

Actually the early eighties was the period Torriani did everything to favour Saronni and Moser and time bonuses fit in there.

I still remember how Terpstra was robbed two Ster ElektroTours (now ZLN) to Gilbert because of time bonuses.