2015 Vuelta stage 16: Luarca > Ermita de Alba 185km

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Arredondo said:
Miburo said:
Disgraceful stage, especially purito. Hope dumoulin wins it now

You are a disgrace, to call someone a disgrace who was about to be dropped on Cobertoria. He did the only right thing today.

You haven't watched the stage surely. Or you don't know anything about cycling and think this sport is some playstation where every rider can pull a solo of 50 km on every mountain stage he wants :eek:

Sure let's believe every word of a rider.

The reason why he hasn't won a GT yet is entirely his own fault, and not in the sense of bad legs.

Got outclassed in tactics, well he actually outsmarted himself...Still hasn't learned his lesson and he prob never will.

Can a mod deal with this guy btw? Or is it allowed to insult forum members? ;)
 
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Nobody is allowed to insult anybody, let's just all be calm, it's the interwebs. No need to pop an artery over some argument.

Cheers.
 
Aug 16, 2013
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Miburo said:
Arredondo said:
Miburo said:
Disgraceful stage, especially purito. Hope dumoulin wins it now

You are a disgrace, to call someone a disgrace who was about to be dropped on Cobertoria. He did the only right thing today.

You haven't watched the stage surely. Or you don't know anything about cycling and think this sport is some playstation where every rider can pull a solo of 50 km on every mountain stage he wants :eek:

Sure let's believe every word of a rider.

The reason why he hasn't won a GT yet is entirely his own fault, and not in the sense of bad legs.

Got outclassed in tactics, well he actually outsmarted himself...Still hasn't learned his lesson and he prob never will.

Can a mod deal with this guy btw? Or is it allowed to insult forum members? ;)

Just look at the images of Cobertoria. Look at his face there. And look at the last km.

Really, you don't know what you're talking about.
 
Aug 6, 2015
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I did some W/kg calculations for Ermita de Alba climb. Rodriguez produced around 6.09 W/kg, Aru 6, Majka 5.9, Dumoulin 5.8. This indicates quite hard tempo of the climb. I don't see here much possibility for those heroic attacks from the bottom of the climb that many expected. Not at this tempo of the main group.
 
Apr 16, 2009
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Miburo said:
Arredondo said:
Miburo said:
Disgraceful stage, especially purito. Hope dumoulin wins it now

You are a disgrace, to call someone a disgrace who was about to be dropped on Cobertoria. He did the only right thing today.

You haven't watched the stage surely. Or you don't know anything about cycling and think this sport is some playstation where every rider can pull a solo of 50 km on every mountain stage he wants :eek:

Sure let's believe every word of a rider.

The reason why he hasn't won a GT yet is entirely his own fault, and not in the sense of bad legs.

Got outclassed in tactics, well he actually outsmarted himself...Still hasn't learned his lesson and he prob never will.

Can a mod deal with this guy btw? Or is it allowed to insult forum members? ;)
Today was probably a case of not having the legs.
 
Aug 6, 2015
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hrotha said:
They were all together including Jeandesboz. The tempo wasn't that high.

The numbers say otherwise. Also Jeandesboz lost over 1 minute to Rodriguez in the end.
 
Jun 10, 2010
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Arked said:
hrotha said:
They were all together including Jeandesboz. The tempo wasn't that high.

The numbers say otherwise. Also Jeandesboz lost over 1 minute to Rodriguez in the end.
The watt numbers don't include any interpretation of the raw data. Like, for example, the fact that the stage wasn't ridden hard at all (22 minutes for the breakaway), which would have an impact on the power output on the last climb. But just like we have those watt numbers, we have the group numbers, and those say they were all together and the gaps were minimal.
 
Feb 20, 2010
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jaylew said:
hrotha said:
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While I know why you "warned" the content of this post, it is the best point made so far about how the race is unfolding. The fans who are complaining want superhuman efforts day in and day out, all year long, but that isn't possible without...let's just say that you can't have it both ways.
That's simply bollocks. And it's unfair that you can come here to say something so wrong, safe in the knowledge that any rebuttal would be too Clinicky to remain here for long.

I disagree. Nothing wrong with his post at all.
Which rider was more entertaining, Moncoutié or Leipheimer?
 
Aug 18, 2010
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Libertine Seguros said:
jaylew said:
hrotha said:
jmdirt said:
While I know why you "warned" the content of this post, it is the best point made so far about how the race is unfolding. The fans who are complaining want superhuman efforts day in and day out, all year long, but that isn't possible without...let's just say that you can't have it both ways.
That's simply bollocks. And it's unfair that you can come here to say something so wrong, safe in the knowledge that any rebuttal would be too Clinicky to remain here for long.

I disagree. Nothing wrong with his post at all.
Which rider was more entertaining, Moncoutié or Leipheimer?

Leipheimer if you post here. Nobody else could light this place up like him.
 
Aug 29, 2009
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Arked said:
hrotha said:
They were all together including Jeandesboz. The tempo wasn't that high.

The numbers say otherwise. Also Jeandesboz lost over 1 minute to Rodriguez in the end.

talking about him...when did he discover that climbing talent by the way? Must be in the form of his life
 
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Zinoviev Letter said:
Libertine Seguros said:
jaylew said:
hrotha said:
jmdirt said:
While I know why you "warned" the content of this post, it is the best point made so far about how the race is unfolding. The fans who are complaining want superhuman efforts day in and day out, all year long, but that isn't possible without...let's just say that you can't have it both ways.
That's simply bollocks. And it's unfair that you can come here to say something so wrong, safe in the knowledge that any rebuttal would be too Clinicky to remain here for long.

I disagree. Nothing wrong with his post at all.
Which rider was more entertaining, Moncoutié or Leipheimer?

Leipheimer if you post here. Nobody else could light this place up like him.

2011 Tour de Suisse, still the funniest threads.
 
May 17, 2013
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Libertine Seguros said:
jaylew said:
hrotha said:
jmdirt said:
While I know why you "warned" the content of this post, it is the best point made so far about how the race is unfolding. The fans who are complaining want superhuman efforts day in and day out, all year long, but that isn't possible without...let's just say that you can't have it both ways.
That's simply bollocks. And it's unfair that you can come here to say something so wrong, safe in the knowledge that any rebuttal would be too Clinicky to remain here for long.

I disagree. Nothing wrong with his post at all.
Which rider was more entertaining, Moncoutié or Leipheimer?
Moncoutie by far. Probably clean, blue collar, yes not flashy, but we know what flashy means...
 
Mar 19, 2009
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Libertine Seguros said:
jaylew said:
hrotha said:
jmdirt said:
While I know why you "warned" the content of this post, it is the best point made so far about how the race is unfolding. The fans who are complaining want superhuman efforts day in and day out, all year long, but that isn't possible without...let's just say that you can't have it both ways.
That's simply bollocks. And it's unfair that you can come here to say something so wrong, safe in the knowledge that any rebuttal would be too Clinicky to remain here for long.

I disagree. Nothing wrong with his post at all.
Which rider was more entertaining, Moncoutié or Leipheimer?

Probably depends on you how you define that, but in the sense you probably mean, you'd have to go with DM. Personally however, I might have to say Levi, but that's because I developed a strange fascination with him while watching the 2001 Vuelta.
 
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New avie for you Moose.

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May 9, 2010
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Which means Dumoulin would normally win more time. The question is how fresh he is after riding for GC 2,5 weeks
I think he looks pretty fresh compared to the other GC contenders.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Congratulations, old man! Lots of injuries, bans, bad luck and BS the last years... yesterday was a nice show and a spark of former glory. Chapeau!
 
Sep 8, 2009
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I luv the angel aru but i hope dumoulin will massacre all the climbers in the ITT.

For the show, it would be a disaster if dumoulin won't get red tomorrow
 
Jul 27, 2009
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Even if Dumoulin gets the jersey at the tt, he will be attacked from left and right. Similar to Popovych back then at the Giro.

The question is which moves he will cover and who will attack first.

Majka could be the lucky boy here. But Aru and Purito could also watch each other. Which would ultimative favor Dumoulin.

Ain't Aru a pretty decent descender as a former crosser and mountainbiker?
 
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I dont even know what to say. This, apart from the Andorra-stage, has been worse than Giro 2012 and Tour 2012....