2015 Vuelta stage 2: Alhaurín de la Torre / Caminito del Rey

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Tbf, Movistar and Katusha are just as responsible as Sky. They might be targeting the stage win, but they didn't need to push anywhere near as hard as they are to close the gap to the breakaway
 
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Miburo said:
love movistar, they never wait xD

i bet froome is gonna complain about it later today
Movistar are at least consistent. When Valverde crashed in Catalunya and OPQS paid them back, they didn't say a word. When he crashed in the Vuelta and Sky attacked after criticizing Movistar for not waiting, they complained about the hypocrisy.

And if Froome complains about it, owing to his team's role in it as one of the three teams (and the first ones that got involved) he's a bigger tool than we thought. Just play the "it's an unfortunate situation" card and deflect.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Sky kind of did the same when Valverde was in red in 2012 though.

It was doubly stupid then because they'd whined so heavily about Movistar not waiting for Leipheimer (who wasn't leading the race) when he crashed when Movistar pushed the pace on a descent in Paris-Nice that year. We know Froome is willing to cheat because of the Giro expulsion in 2010 and the illegal feed in 2013, so what's the surprise when he does something not outside the rules but outside the "code"?

There is now a fairly long-standing list of all of the major teams playing foul, and Sky for all their moral pontificating that they did back then are no better than any of them when it comes to being unscrupulous with the "unspoken codes". And they've got into more than their fair share of controversies including Wheelgate, the feeds mentioned above, the 2012 Vuelta and so on, though how much of that is due to them playing unfair and how much is due to their prominent position is something that probably varies depending on your opinion.

you and a few others are so blinded by Sky hate that you can't even make 1 true sentence when commenting Sky.

you should give it a rest a let it go.

I have some newsflashes for you, Katusha and Movistar are keeping Nibali at 2 mins gap for the last 30 minutes.
 
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cadence said:
Not a fan of taking advantage on someone's misfortune, but how are Movistar and Katusha not getting stick for driving the pace up massively and Sky are being portrayed as the only bad guys?

Because the team leaders of Movistar and Katusha will have targetted this as an important chance to win a stage. They probably should have waited as well, but with the break up the road it's kind of understandable.

Sky just seem to want to get revenge on Nibali.

Even if it is just revenge, that's just speculation. And I think Henao stage wins are one of Sky's ambitions for this Vuelta..
 
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I know some of you disagree but I think its just not okay to pull that hard when riders are behind because of a crash. Taking advantage out of a situation which caused heavy injuries and could end carriers is simply not okay.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Sky kind of did the same when Valverde was in red in 2012 though.

It was doubly stupid then because they'd whined so heavily about Movistar not waiting for Leipheimer (who wasn't leading the race) when he crashed when Movistar pushed the pace on a descent in Paris-Nice that year. We know Froome is willing to cheat because of the Giro expulsion in 2010 and the illegal feed in 2013, so what's the surprise when he does something not outside the rules but outside the "code"?

There is now a fairly long-standing list of all of the major teams playing foul, and Sky for all their moral pontificating that they did back then are no better than any of them when it comes to being unscrupulous with the "unspoken codes". And they've got into more than their fair share of controversies including Wheelgate, the feeds mentioned above, the 2012 Vuelta and so on, though how much of that is due to them playing unfair and how much is due to their prominent position is something that probably varies depending on your opinion.

Expected more form you. He was going to abandon the race anyway. Hardly cheating if you ask me.
 
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Movistar and Katusha never wait, but they don't whine when it happens to them. Meanwhile Sky cries foul when they are caught out but do it o others. That is the difference.

Nibs done for? :40 back and teamless. He won't be able to pull a remarkable ride like Contador did in the Giro. I Hope he does though!
 
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Great job from Cataldo. Still think Nibali will lose quite a lot of time today. Positioning going to be very important before the climb
 
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Walkman said:
Expected more form you. He was going to abandon the race anyway. Hardly cheating if you ask me.
Did he, or did he not, get disqualified for breaking the rules? If he was going to abandon anyway, he could have let go of the motorbike and done it. It doesn't change the illegal feeds thing, which was far more important, high profile and far more insidious anyway as you can at least argue the irrelevance of the Giro DSQ.

I'm sorry to have disappointed you.