2016 Critérium du Dauphiné, 2.UWT, June 5-12

[ILovecycling]

Re: Re:

Froome will start at 12h45 but this is british hour?

No, it's French time/CET

Lol Froome already does tactics tricks
He doesnt want to be seen

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Re: Re:

Froome starts early tomorrow - 12:45
Contador off third to last at 14:33

Any reason why Froome will start early? Weather?

Marginal rain

 

[Miburo]

Re: Re:

To be honest, I expect Froome and Contador to slightly undercooked right now.

I think Contador will win it by 20 sec or barely make top 5. Whatever happens, it'll be fun in here.

No clue about Froome but Porte will do good.

You are a bit Porte obbsesive these past few days

But yeah,he should make top5.

I made the Porte thread after all

 

[ILovecycling]

Re: Re:

To be honest, I expect Froome and Contador to slightly undercooked right now.

I think Contador will win it by 20 sec or barely make top 5. Whatever happens, it'll be fun in here.

No clue about Froome but Porte will do good.

You are a bit Porte obbsesive these past few days

But yeah,he should make top5.

I made the Porte thread after all

Ohh
I very rarely visit that dark corner of the CN forum as you would expect

Btw Im really intersted in his interteam battle with TJ ;-)

 

[sir fly]

I have to notice that Froome is very silent. Also, he's chosen an early start. It can be interpreted how ever you like... around 13 cet tomorrow we'll have more clear picture.
On the other hand, Contador was more talkative and will start when favourites should start. Again, it means nothing until we see the results.
It's four weeks till the Tour and an all out 13 minute effort shouldn't affect their build up too much, if there's a concern about it at all.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

To be honest, I expect Froome and Contador to slightly undercooked right now.

Yeah, I think you may be right. Alberto may still win it though. I don't see how Pinot could win, we saw in Pais Vasco how strong he is on these gradients: not strong enough.
I think Poels has a good chance to win (and I'd hate it)

 

[Red Rick]

I think we had more of a reference for Contador if he'd finished the 2014 Tour. He was unusually good in the DL that year.

 

[Vasilis]

I really wouldn't dare make any predictions about form or results before tomorrow, but I do think they will all go full gas tomorrow, everybody will want to see where their form is at.

 

[gregrowlerson]

I think that whilst Contador is favourite, that this is a difficult stage to predict. I think that someone like Rohan Dennis could take it; a good time trialler and climber. And what about Kwiatkowski? He is good in short ITT's, but is this just a little too steep for him?

Porte has a chance in this stage too, and for the overall. His one week record is almost as good as anyone's, though I don't know about his form since he got sick at Romandie.

 

[Escarabajo]

An interesting fact: An Italian never has won this race.

http://www.procyclingstats.com/race.php?id=163694&c=6&stat_id=130

 

[The Barb]

Re: Re:

Froome starts early tomorrow - 12:45
Contador off third to last at 14:33

Any reason why Froome will start early? Weather?

Marginal rain

Hahahahahaha!!!! Damn I enjoyed that. Well done sir/madam.

 

[Praying Mantis]

Prologue Starting Times:

Ord	Time		R#		Name					Nat		Team

1	11:40:00	218		WAEYTENS Zico			BEL		TEAM GIANT-ALPECIN
2	11:41:00	201		MEINTJES Louis			RSA		LAMPRE - MERIDA
3	11:42:00	192		ARCHBOLD Shane			NZL		BORA-ARGON 18
4	11:43:00	188		VEUCHELEN Frederik		BEL		WANTY - GROUPE GOBERT
5	11:44:00	178		VAN GENECHTEN  Jonas	BEL		IAM CYCLING
6	11:45:00	161		BENNETT George			NZL		TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO
7	11:46:00	157		SLAGTER Tom Jelte		NED		CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM
8	11:47:00	144		HUREL Tony				FRA		DIRECT ENERGIE
9	11:48:00	138		VENTOSO Francisco		ESP		MOVISTAR TEAM
10	11:49:00	122		BEPPU  Fumiyuki			JPN		TREK - SEGAFREDO
11	11:50:00	117		REGUIGUI Youcef			ALG		TEAM DIMENSION DATA
12	11:51:00	102		BOZIC Borut				SLO		COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS
13	11:52:00	95		DEBUSSCHERE Jens		BEL		LOTTO SOUDAL
14	11:53:00	82		GUARNIERI Jacopo		ITA		TEAM KATUSHA
15	11:54:00	77		YATES Adam				GBR		ORICA GREENEDGE
16	11:55:00	64		DUMOULIN Samuel			FRA		AG2R LA MONDIALE
17	11:56:00	54		GRUZDEV Dmitriy			KAZ		ASTANA PRO TEAM
18	11:57:00	48		VELITS Martin			SVK		ETIXX-QUICK STEP
19	11:58:00	34		MORABITO Steve			SUI		FDJ
20	11:59:00	22		GOGL Michael			AUT		TINKOFF
21	12:00:00	14		CARUSO Damiano			ITA		BMC RACING TEAM
22	12:01:00	3		KWIATKOWSKI Michal		POL		TEAM SKY
23	12:02:00	215		JONES Carter			USA		TEAM GIANT-ALPECIN
24	12:03:00	204		GRMAY Tsgabu 			ETH		LAMPRE - MERIDA
25	12:04:00	194		BENNETT Sam				IRL		BORA-ARGON 18
26	12:05:00	184		DEGAND Thomas			BEL		WANTY - GROUPE GOBERT
27	12:06:00	171		COPPEL Jérôme			FRA		IAM CYCLING
28	12:07:00	165		LAMMERTINK  Steven		NED		TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO
29	12:08:00	151		ROLLAND Pierre			FRA		CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM
30	12:09:00	145		JEANDESBOZ  Fabrice		FRA		DIRECT ENERGIE
31	12:10:00	137		SOLER Marc				ESP		MOVISTAR TEAM
32	12:11:00	123		BERNARD Julien			FRA		TREK - SEGAFREDO
33	12:12:00	113		CUMMINGS Stephen		GBR		TEAM DIMENSION DATA
34	12:13:00	101		BOUHANNI Nacer			FRA		COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS
35	12:14:00	91		GALLOPIN Tony			FRA		LOTTO SOUDAL
36	12:15:00	81		RODRIGUEZ Joaquim		ESP		TEAM KATUSHA
37	12:16:00	72		DOCKER Mitchell			AUS		ORICA GREENEDGE
38	12:17:00	65		GASTAUER Ben			LUX		AG2R LA MONDIALE
39	12:18:00	58		TIRALONGO Paolo			ITA		ASTANA PRO TEAM
40	12:19:00	42		ALAPHILIPPE Julian		FRA		ETIXX-QUICK STEP
41	12:20:00	36		ROUX Anthony			FRA		FDJ
42	12:21:00	23		HANSEN Jesper			DEN		TINKOFF
43	12:22:00	16		HERMANS Ben				BEL		BMC RACING TEAM
44	12:23:00	7		ROWE Luke				GBR		TEAM SKY
45	12:24:00	211		DEGENKOLB John			GER		TEAM GIANT-ALPECIN
46	12:25:00	206		MORI Manuele			ITA		LAMPRE - MERIDA
47	12:26:00	195		HUZARSKI Bartosz		POL		BORA-ARGON 18
48	12:27:00	183		CLAEYS Dimitri			BEL		WANTY - GROUPE GOBERT
49	12:28:00	173		CLEMENT Stef			NED		IAM CYCLING
50	12:29:00	163		HOFLAND Moreno			NED		TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO
51	12:30:00	155		KING Benjamin			USA		CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM
52	12:31:00	147		QUEMENEUR Perrig		FRA		DIRECT ENERGIE
53	12:32:00	136		QUINTANA  Dayer			COL		MOVISTAR TEAM
54	12:33:00	127		THEUNS Edward			BEL		TREK - SEGAFREDO
55	12:34:00	118		TEKLEHAIMANOT Daniel	ERI		TEAM DIMENSION DATA
56	12:35:00	106		NAVARRO Daniel			ESP		COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS
57	12:36:00	92		BOECKMANS Kris			BEL		LOTTO SOUDAL
58	12:37:00	87		VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen	BEL		TEAM KATUSHA
59	12:38:00	74		IMPEY Daryl				RSA		ORICA GREENEDGE
60	12:39:00	66		GAUTIER Cyril			FRA		AG2R LA MONDIALE
61	12:40:00	53		GRIVKO Andriy			UKR		ASTANA PRO TEAM
62	12:41:00	45		MARTIN Tony				GER		ETIXX-QUICK STEP
63	12:42:00	31		PINOT Thibaut			FRA		FDJ
64	12:43:00	28		VALGREN Michael			DEN		TINKOFF
65	12:44:00	13		BURGHARDT Marcus		GER		BMC RACING TEAM
66	12:45:00	1		FROOME Christopher		GBR		TEAM SKY
67	12:46:00	213		DE KORT Koen			NED		TEAM GIANT-ALPECIN
68	12:47:00	202		CATTANEO Mattia			ITA		LAMPRE - MERIDA
69	12:48:00	193		BENEDETTI Cesare		ITA		BORA-ARGON 18
70	12:49:00	182		BACKAERT Frederik		BEL		WANTY - GROUPE GOBERT
71	12:50:00	175		FUMEAUX Jonathan		SUI		IAM CYCLING
72	12:51:00	167		VAN WINDEN Dennis		NED		TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO
73	12:52:00	158		VAN BAARLE Dylan		NED		CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM
74	12:53:00	141		VOECKLER Thomas			FRA		DIRECT ENERGIE
75	12:54:00	135		PEDRERO Antonio			ESP		MOVISTAR TEAM
76	12:55:00	124		BONIFAZIO Niccolo		ITA		TREK - SEGAFREDO
77	12:56:00	114		FRAILE Omar				ESP		TEAM DIMENSION DATA
78	12:57:00	107		SOUPE Geoffrey			FRA		COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS
79	12:58:00	96		DOCKX Gert				BEL		LOTTO SOUDAL
80	12:59:00	84		KRISTOFF Alexander		NOR		TEAM KATUSHA
81	13:00:00	73		HAIG  Jack				AUS		ORICA GREENEDGE
82	13:01:00	61		BARDET Romain			FRA		AG2R LA MONDIALE
83	13:02:00	56		ROSA Diego				ITA		ASTANA PRO TEAM
84	13:03:00	47		VANDENBERGH Stijn		BEL		ETIXX-QUICK STEP
85	13:04:00	35		REICHENBACH Sébastien	SUI		FDJ
86	13:05:00	26		PAULINHO Sergio			POR		TINKOFF
87	13:06:00	17		MOINARD Amaël			FRA		BMC RACING TEAM
88	13:07:00	8		STANNARD Ian			GBR		TEAM SKY
89	13:08:00	216		SINKELDAM Ramon			NED		TEAM GIANT-ALPECIN
90	13:09:00	207		PIBERNIK Luka			SLO		LAMPRE - MERIDA
91	13:10:00	198		VOSS Paul				GER		BORA-ARGON 18
92	13:11:00	186		MINNAARD Marco			NED		WANTY - GROUPE GOBERT
93	13:12:00	176		NAESEN Oliver			BEL		IAM CYCLING
94	13:13:00	164		KEIZER Martijn			NED		TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO
95	13:14:00	156		LANGEVELD Sebastian		NED		CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM
96	13:15:00	148		SICARD Romain			FRA		DIRECT ENERGIE
97	13:16:00	134		OLIVEIRA Nelson			POR		MOVISTAR TEAM
98	13:17:00	125		IRIZAR Markel			ESP		TREK - SEGAFREDO
99	13:18:00	115		HAAS Nathan				AUS		TEAM DIMENSION DATA
100	13:19:00	108		VAN BILSEN Kenneth		BEL		COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS
101	13:20:00	97		MARCZYNSKI Tomasz		POL		LOTTO SOUDAL
102	13:21:00	83		HALLER Marco			AUT		TEAM KATUSHA
103	13:22:00	76		MEIER Christian			CAN		ORICA GREENEDGE
104	13:23:00	67		GOUGEARD Alexis			FRA		AG2R LA MONDIALE
105	13:24:00	55		LUTSENKO Alexey			KAZ		ASTANA PRO TEAM
106	13:25:00	44		DE PLUS Laurens			BEL		ETIXX-QUICK STEP
107	13:26:00	32		BONNET William			FRA		FDJ
108	13:27:00	27		TROFIMOV Yury			RUS		TINKOFF
109	13:28:00	18		VAN AVERMAET Greg		BEL		BMC RACING TEAM
110	13:29:00	4		LANDA MEANA Mikel		ESP		TEAM SKY
111	13:30:00	212		CURVERS  Roy			NED		TEAM GIANT-ALPECIN
112	13:31:00	208		ZURLO Federico			ITA		LAMPRE - MERIDA
113	13:32:00	197		NERZ Dominik			GER		BORA-ARGON 18
114	13:33:00	187		THURAU Bjorn			GER		WANTY - GROUPE GOBERT
115	13:34:00	177		SARAMOTINS Aleksejs		LAT		IAM CYCLING
116	13:35:00	166		TEUNISSEN  Mike			NED		TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO
117	13:36:00	154		HOWES Alex				USA		CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM
118	13:37:00	146		NAULEAU Brian			FRA		DIRECT ENERGIE
119	13:38:00	133		HERRADA LOPEZ Jesus		ESP		MOVISTAR TEAM
120	13:39:00	121		HESJEDAL Ryder			CAN		TREK - SEGAFREDO
121	13:40:00	111		ANTON Igor				ESP		TEAM DIMENSION DATA
122	13:41:00	104		LEMOINE Cyril			FRA		COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS
123	13:42:00	94		DE GENDT Thomas			BEL		LOTTO SOUDAL
124	13:43:00	86		MORKOV Michael			DEN		TEAM KATUSHA
125	13:44:00	75		KEUKELEIRE Jens			BEL		ORICA GREENEDGE
126	13:45:00	63		CHEREL Mikael			FRA		AG2R LA MONDIALE
127	13:46:00	52		CATALDO Dario			ITA		ASTANA PRO TEAM
128	13:47:00	46		TERPSTRA Niki			NED		ETIXX-QUICK STEP
129	13:48:00	33		LADAGNOUS Matthieu		FRA		FDJ
130	13:49:00	24		KISERLOVSKI Robert		CRO		TINKOFF
131	13:50:00	12		BOOKWALTER Brent		USA		BMC RACING TEAM
132	13:51:00	6		PUCCIO Salvatore		ITA		TEAM SKY
133	13:52:00	217		VAN DER HAAR Lars		NED		TEAM GIANT-ALPECIN
134	13:53:00	203		CONTI Valerio			ITA		LAMPRE - MERIDA
135	13:54:00	196		KONRAD Patrick			AUT		BORA-ARGON 18
136	13:55:00	181		GASPAROTTO  Enrico		ITA		WANTY - GROUPE GOBERT
137	13:56:00	174		ENGER Sondre Holst		NOR		IAM CYCLING
138	13:57:00	162		CAMPENAERTS  Victor		BEL		TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO
139	13:58:00	152		BAUER Jack				NZL		CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM
140	13:59:00	143		DUCHESNE  Antoine		CAN		DIRECT ENERGIE
141	14:00:00	132		FERNANDEZ Ruben			ESP		MOVISTAR TEAM
142	14:01:00	128		ZUBELDIA Haimar			ESP		TREK - SEGAFREDO
143	14:02:00	112		BOASSON  HAGEN Edvald	NOR		TEAM DIMENSION DATA
144	14:03:00	103		LAPORTE Christophe		FRA		COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS
145	14:04:00	93		DE CLERCQ Bart			BEL		LOTTO SOUDAL
146	14:05:00	88		VICIOSO Angel			ESP		TEAM KATUSHA
147	14:06:00	71		GERRANS  Simon			AUS		ORICA GREENEDGE
148	14:07:00	62		BAKELANTS Jan			BEL		AG2R LA MONDIALE
149	14:08:00	57		SANCHEZ Luis-Leon		ESP		ASTANA PRO TEAM
150	14:09:00	43		BOUET Maxime			FRA		ETIXX-QUICK STEP
151	14:10:00	37		ROY Jérémy				FRA		FDJ
152	14:11:00	25		KREUZIGER Roman			CZE		TINKOFF
153	14:12:00	15		DENNIS Rohan			AUS		BMC RACING TEAM
154	14:13:00	2		HENAO MONTOYA Sergio	COL		TEAM SKY
155	14:14:00	214		HAGA Chad				USA		TEAM GIANT-ALPECIN
156	14:15:00	205		KOSHEVOY Ilia			BLR		LAMPRE - MERIDA
157	14:16:00	191		BUCHMANN Emanuel		GER		BORA-ARGON 18
158	14:17:00	185		MARTIN  Guillaume		FRA		WANTY - GROUPE GOBERT
159	14:18:00	172		CHEVRIER Clément		FRA		IAM CYCLING
160	14:19:00	168		VERMEULEN Alexey		USA		TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO
161	14:20:00	153		CARDOSO  Andre			POR		CANNONDALE PRO CYCLING TEAM
162	14:21:00	142		CALMEJANE Lilian		FRA		DIRECT ENERGIE
163	14:22:00	131		MORENO Daniel			ESP		MOVISTAR TEAM
164	14:23:00	126		MOLLEMA Bauke			NED		TREK - SEGAFREDO
165	14:24:00	116		PAUWELS Serge			BEL		TEAM DIMENSION DATA
166	14:25:00	105		MOLARD Rudy				FRA		COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS
167	14:26:00	98		VERVAEKE Louis			BEL		LOTTO SOUDAL
168	14:27:00	85		LOSADA Alberto			ESP		TEAM KATUSHA
169	14:28:00	78		HOWSON Damien			AUS		ORICA GREENEDGE	
170	14:29:00	68		VUILLERMOZ Alexis		FRA		AG2R LA MONDIALE
171	14:30:00	51		ARU Fabio				ITA		ASTANA PRO TEAM
172	14:31:00	41		MARTIN Daniel			IRL		ETIXX-QUICK STEP
173	14:32:00	38		VICHOT Arthur			FRA		FDJ
174	14:33:00	21		CONTADOR Alberto		ESP		TINKOFF
175	14:34:00	11		PORTE Richie			AUS		BMC RACING TEAM
176	14:35:00	5		POELS Wouter			NED		TEAM SKY

Or properly formatted: http://pastebin.com/Z1d5u4pM

Prologue starts at 11:40 CEST
Finish at around 14:50 CEST
Live video from 13:30 CEST

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I would normally give this stage to henao, but he returns with a jetlag perhaps

 

[Miburo]

Re:

I would normally give this stage to henao, but he returns with a jetlag perhaps

Euh Contador destroyed him in the first part of PV ITT and he's clearly not that well prepared as Contador. Got any facts?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

I would normally give this stage to henao, but he returns with a jetlag perhaps

Euh Contador destroyed him in the first part of PV ITT and he's clearly not that well prepared as Contador. Got any facts?

The weather may spoil things for you.
I guess, the only good thing about that is that it would spoil Poels' chances as well.

 

[dacooley]

marginal hate as always in the mix

 

[Kwibus]

Re: Re:

I would normally give this stage to henao, but he returns with a jetlag perhaps

Euh Contador destroyed him in the first part of PV ITT and he's clearly not that well prepared as Contador. Got any facts?

The weather may spoil things for you.
I guess, the only good thing about that is that it would spoil Poels' chances as well.

Why hate on Poels so much?

 

[Kwibus]

Re: Re:

I would normally give this stage to henao, but he returns with a jetlag perhaps

Euh Contador destroyed him in the first part of PV ITT and he's clearly not that well prepared as Contador. Got any facts?

Ryo + Colombian rider = infinite hype.
He has a point though, he should be good at it, but the duaphine is also a race which usually leaves us with a lot of question marks.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Why hate on Poels so much?

You know I dislike Sky riders and I feel he will win today with Alberto in 2nd, unless the weather spoils it

 

[Vasilis]

Re: Re:

I would normally give this stage to henao, but he returns with a jetlag perhaps

Euh Contador destroyed him in the first part of PV ITT and he's clearly not that well prepared as Contador. Got any facts?

The weather may spoil things for you.
I guess, the only good thing about that is that it would spoil Poels' chances as well.

Because he won LBL in sunny conditions?

 

[Hugo Koblet]

I think that Froome will disappoint slightly today. Contador will be good. I think he will win.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Because he won LBL in sunny conditions?

Irrelevant. In rainy conditions you will always climb a climb like today slower than in sunny weather, no matter how much of a boost rain gives you. So if the first 150 riders ride in sun, and the last few in rain, those last ones don't really stand a chance

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

I think that Froome will disappoint slightly today. Contador will be good. I think he will win.

I also think Froome will not be amazing, I think low in the top 10 and 2 of his teammates will be faster.

 

[Vasilis]

Re: Re:

Because he won LBL in sunny conditions?

Irrelevant. In rainy conditions you will always climb a climb like today slower than in sunny weather, no matter how much of a boost rain gives you. So if the first 150 riders ride in sun, and the last few in rain, those last ones don't really stand a chance

In that case I get your point. Thanks for clearing that up.
Too bad for you that it would still increase Froome's chances.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Will be interesting today how the weather pans out for some riders, Sounds like those in the final group may get the worst of it. Unfortunately I can't watch this afternoon but at least ITV4 are showing hour long highlights tonight for us UK viewers.