2016 Critérium du Dauphiné, 2.UWT, June 5-12

[hrotha]

Poor Samuel Dumoulin, he's been around and getting results since literally figuratively forever and people forget about him as soon as some other Dumoulin makes it.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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One thing is for sure, that wasn't 9 sec xD.

I think any crash that happens in the last 3km, then the rule should directly apply. Then again i think the rule should always be applied, even if there's no crash.

I timed Contador at 9s back from EBH, and Froome 2s back from EBH. There was a gap between Froome and the rider in front, but not a full 1s gap between Froome and the rider in front. So yes, the gap was 9s, not that I think that's how gaps should be timed but it is what it is

What was the gap between Gallopin (first of Contador group) and EBH?
Gallopin again

Oh mb, I meant I timed Contador's group at 9s, Contador was at like 10

 

[Hakkapelit]

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Is it July yet?

Sweet summer childs

 

[ciranda]

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Poor Samuel Dumoulin, he's been around and getting results since literally figuratively forever and people forget about him as soon as some other Dumoulin makes it.

The real Dumoulin.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Really hope Froome won't take the jersey tomorrow.
It might shift the whole Sky tactics on Saturday, towards conservative racing.

I actually agree, although I'm sure if Sky sense a weakness in Porte or Contador tomorrow they will go for it.

 

[peloton]

So happy to see Eddy win, bravo!!

 

[Ataraxus]

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Really hope Froome won't take the jersey tomorrow.
It might shift the whole Sky tactics on Saturday, towards conservative racing.

I actually agree, although I'm sure if Sky sense a weakness in Porte or Contador tomorrow they will go for it.

Sorry Pricey. I don't see any Sky leutenant going in the Maddeleine with Froome in the leader's jersey.
If Froome proves superior tomorrow, they will just ride tempo and until half of Meribel....and I don't want that.

 

[Wantington Jr.]

Once again Landa loses time on a flat stage due to inattentiveness or simply not having the legs. Much is made of his move to Sky and his participation in the Tour but he'll flop big time.

Landa is just the new LRP and Froome will be as isolated as ever unless Thomas is as strong as last year. That I have more faith in Thomas than in Landa shows that Astana will be the really strong team tht will rip the Tour to shreds.

 

[classicomano]

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Poor Samuel Dumoulin, he's been around and getting results since literally figuratively forever and people forget about him as soon as some other Dumoulin makes it.

Come on, the man is 1.30m its very easy to overlook him.

 

[ILovecycling]

Nice win by Eddy Boss

The gap is more or less right,rules are weird but thats how it is

 

[DFA123]

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Once again Landa loses time on a flat stage due to inattentiveness or simply not having the legs. Much is made of his move to Sky and his participation in the Tour but he'll flop big time.

Landa is just the new LRP and Froome will be as isolated as ever unless Thomas is as strong as last year. That I have more faith in Thomas than in Landa shows that Astana will be the really strong team tht will rip the Tour to shreds.

I agree that Landa is a bit over-rated and still has a few things to prove; but he's got much more potential than Porte, and, indeed, he's already surpassed Porte's GT performances despite being five years younger. One podium and three stage wins, including two epically hard 'queen stages' puts Little Richie's record to shame.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Once again Landa loses time on a flat stage due to inattentiveness or simply not having the legs. Much is made of his move to Sky and his participation in the Tour but he'll flop big time.

Landa is just the new LRP and Froome will be as isolated as ever unless Thomas is as strong as last year. That I have more faith in Thomas than in Landa shows that Astana will be the really strong team tht will rip the Tour to shreds.

And once again you blast Landa for absolutely no reason.

Come on.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Really hope Froome won't take the jersey tomorrow.
It might shift the whole Sky tactics on Saturday, towards conservative racing.

I actually agree, although I'm sure if Sky sense a weakness in Porte or Contador tomorrow they will go for it.

Sorry Pricey. I don't see any Sky leutenant going in the Maddeleine with Froome in the leader's jersey.
If Froome proves superior tomorrow, they will just ride tempo and until half of Meribel....and I don't want that.

Sorry I wasn't very clear, I hope they don't pick up the jersey tomorrow as I also want some action on Saturday.

I was just implying that if Porte or Contador struggles tomorrow I think they will put the hammer down. Of course the same can be said the other way round, if Contador senses weakness he will surely attack.

 

[Ramon Koran]

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Once again Landa loses time on a flat stage due to inattentiveness or simply not having the legs. Much is made of his move to Sky and his participation in the Tour but he'll flop big time.

Landa is just the new LRP and Froome will be as isolated as ever unless Thomas is as strong as last year. That I have more faith in Thomas than in Landa shows that Astana will be the really strong team tht will rip the Tour to shreds.

We have yet to see Landa in the mountains with Froome, but I have no doubt he will be far better than Porte for multiple reasons. For starters he has proven himself over 3 weeks while helping a team leader. He is a better climber than Porte and can be used to neutralize attacks from Alberto or Quintana, as an long range offensive weapon or just to set the tempo. To finish he can take over from Froome if he crashes because he has the leadership personality and mental strenghth lacking in porte and Thomas. I honestly believe if Froome crashes out or flops in the tour, landa will cause caos throughout the third week maybe enough even to win it.

 

[rick james]

when the dawg is up fighting like this in sprint stages it means he's on good form...next 3 days should be a good fight

 

[More Strides than Rides]

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Domoulin 6th, ahead of Degenkolb

Samuel Dumoulin is pretty quick so it's not much of a surprise is it?

I guess I have a hard time keeping track of what Domoulin is. Is he a Time-Trialist now? Or is he a GC man.

Okay, he is a sprinter now. Got it.

Different Dumoulin.

Poor Samuel Dumoulin, he's been around and getting results since literally figuratively forever and people forget about him as soon as some other Dumoulin makes it.

Domoulin 6th, ahead of Degenkolb

Samuel Dumoulin is pretty quick so it's not much of a surprise is it?

I guess I have a hard time keeping track of what Domoulin is. Is he a Time-Trialist now? Or is he a GC man.

Okay, he is a sprinter now. Got it.

It's a different Dumoulin. Tom Dumoulin, Dutch, is a TTer and GC rider. Samuel Dumoulin, French and roughly 30cm shorter, is a sprinter/puncheur.

 

[SeriousSam]

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Once again Landa loses time on a flat stage due to inattentiveness or simply not having the legs. Much is made of his move to Sky and his participation in the Tour but he'll flop big time.

Landa is just the new LRP and Froome will be as isolated as ever unless Thomas is as strong as last year. That I have more faith in Thomas than in Landa shows that Astana will be the really strong team tht will rip the Tour to shreds.

We have yet to see Landa in the mountains with Froome, but I have no doubt he will be far better than Porte for multiple reasons. For starters he has proven himself over 3 weeks while helping a team leader. He is a better climber than Porte and can be used to neutralize attacks from Alberto or Quintana, as an long range offensive weapon or just to set the tempo. To finish he can take over from Froome if he crashes because he has the leadership personality and mental strenghth lacking in porte and Thomas. I honestly believe if Froome crashes out or flops in the tour, landa will cause caos throughout the third week maybe enough even to win it.

Landa's Tour preparation has not been ideal, so a failure to deliver at the Tour wouldn't be very informative, but it will mark the first he goes up against the very best climbers in the world at their best. Will be interesting.

 

[rick james]

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Once again Landa loses time on a flat stage due to inattentiveness or simply not having the legs. Much is made of his move to Sky and his participation in the Tour but he'll flop big time.

Landa is just the new LRP and Froome will be as isolated as ever unless Thomas is as strong as last year. That I have more faith in Thomas than in Landa shows that Astana will be the really strong team tht will rip the Tour to shreds.

when working for Froome, Landa will have a job to do in the mountains, not the flat stages, he is free to lose all the time he wants

 

[jmdirt]

HS that's a downpour!
Congrats EBH!

 

[Ramon Koran]

Stopping it at 3k will just make it worst, you will have gc teams racing untill 3km and sprint teams till finsih. So at 3km some will stop racing others will still go flat out, mass crashes guarenteed... System is fine as it is, not ieal but still fine.

 

[Wantington Jr.]

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Once again Landa loses time on a flat stage due to inattentiveness or simply not having the legs. Much is made of his move to Sky and his participation in the Tour but he'll flop big time.

Landa is just the new LRP and Froome will be as isolated as ever unless Thomas is as strong as last year. That I have more faith in Thomas than in Landa shows that Astana will be the really strong team tht will rip the Tour to shreds.

when working for Froome, Landa will have a job to do in the mountains, not the flat stages, he is free to lose all the time he wants

Landa will shine for a day and then he'll be nowhere to be seen the next two mountain stages. He simply lacks the stamina to perform well over 3 weeks. Been there, seen that. Sky look great on paper but on the road they're all over the place like a flock of pigeons.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Once again Landa loses time on a flat stage due to inattentiveness or simply not having the legs. Much is made of his move to Sky and his participation in the Tour but he'll flop big time.

Landa is just the new LRP and Froome will be as isolated as ever unless Thomas is as strong as last year. That I have more faith in Thomas than in Landa shows that Astana will be the really strong team tht will rip the Tour to shreds.

when working for Froome, Landa will have a job to do in the mountains, not the flat stages, he is free to lose all the time he wants

Landa will shine for a day and then he'll be nowhere to be seen the next two mountain stages. He simply lacks the stamina to perform well over 3 weeks. Been there, seen that. Sky look great on paper but on the road they're all over the place like a flock of pigeons.

His consistency in the Giro 15 was about as good as your Landa-hate. Stop yourself, he had a bad GT, nothing more.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Domoulin 6th, ahead of Degenkolb

Samuel Dumoulin is pretty quick so it's not much of a surprise is it?

I guess I have a hard time keeping track of what Domoulin is. Is he a Time-Trialist now? Or is he a GC man.

Okay, he is a sprinter now. Got it.

Different Dumoulin.

Poor Samuel Dumoulin, he's been around and getting results since literally figuratively forever and people forget about him as soon as some other Dumoulin makes it.

Domoulin 6th, ahead of Degenkolb

Samuel Dumoulin is pretty quick so it's not much of a surprise is it?

I guess I have a hard time keeping track of what Domoulin is. Is he a Time-Trialist now? Or is he a GC man.

Okay, he is a sprinter now. Got it.

It's a different Dumoulin. Tom Dumoulin, Dutch, is a TTer and GC rider. Samuel Dumoulin, French and roughly 30cm shorter, is a sprinter/puncheur.

I remember when Tom Dumoulin began being mentioned frequently. Got really confused.
"Huh. Who's this guy? Related to Samuel Dumoulin? No, not even from the same country, and about twice as tall."
I quite like Samuel Dumoulin; the only (male) pro rider I can actually say is shorter that I am.

But, hey; name confusion! You just wait until Guillaume Martin starts making it big!

 

[peloton]

Some tweets from today...

 

[hrotha]

Tony Martin is starting to get on my nerves.