2016 Critérium du Dauphiné, 2.UWT, June 5-12

[May0maniac]

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One day we'll see Froome, Martin & Zakarin all attacking together and it will be so ugly that cycling will never be broadcast for a public audience again

Just need Mollema in the group to make it the apocalypse for cycling stylists.

They couldn't ride close together as the elbows and knees would be flying

And then Aru an Voeckler come from behind, wrestling their bikes and showing the world their pain faces.
At least Aru looks somewhat decent on the bike when he's riding hard on the flat, like a few days ago, that's his only redeeming quality when it comes to looking horrible on a bike.

 

[The Barb]

Really looking forward to this stage ...

The break probably takes it (I'll say Purito) and will be interested to see if Froome can be put under pressure. Expecting a better performance from Porte today.

 

[undencem]

Why is contador in bad shape and froomey in good shape after long period of preparation ? Dont try to find excuses for contador
It is end of an era . Froome evolved to top level cyclist from nothing while contador was big star even under 23. This is the success of british cycling against spanish. Success of science against tradition. But french , spanish and italians are still insisting on old school.

Contador is always training but Froome is always winning.

 

[HelloDolly]

So wht is the story with Aru ?? Will he ready fro the Tour ? Yesterday eh looked bad ...has he been to the Nibali school of GT preparation then

 

[RattaKuningas]

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Why is contador in bad shape and froomey in good shape after long period of preparation ? Dont try to find excuses for contador
It is end of an era for contador.

Looks like contador is always training but froomey is always winning.

Contador will beat Froome today. Just wait and see.

 

[Praying Mantis]

Stage 7, Le Pont-de-Claix → Superdévoluy (151 km, Mountain)

Sunday, June 12th • Stage info • Startlist • Live ticker • Livestreams • Weather forecast: Start, Halfway, Finish
Starts at 10:50 - Live video from 13:30 - Finish at 15:00 (CEST)

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Mountain passes & hills:
Km 13.5 - Côte de Monteynard 10.6 kilometre-long climb at 4.7% - category 2
Km 33.5 - Côte des Terrasses 2.7 kilometre-long climb at 6.9% - category 3
Km 83.0 - Côte de Saint-Laurent-du-Cros 2.8 kilometre-long climb at 4.9% - category 4
Km 102.5 - Col de Moissière 8.3 kilometre-long climb at 8.2% - category 1
Km 139.5 - Col du Noyer 7.5 kilometre-long climb at 8.4% - category 1
Km 151.0 - SUPERDÉVOLUY 3.8 kilometre-long climb at 5.9% - category 3

Climbs:

The Route: 151km south by south-east across the Alps as the race sticks to the valley floor as much as possible even if a lot of the stage is run at close to 1,000m above sea level. The opening climb is labelled as the Côte de Monteynard by the race, it’s the Col de la Festinière to locals, perhaps they don’t want to scare the riders with a big sounding climb at the start? Still it’s not so hard, a railway runs by the road at times and it’s an obvious launchpad for attacks and a lot easier for the big teams to filter who goes off the front as the road is wide. Then follows a more stable part of the course.

Just past halfway, after the Côte de Saint-Laurent, comes a familiar road past La Rochette, scene of chamois-browning descents in the past but they stay on the main road rather than taking the hardest section where Geraint Thomas lost his sunglasses last summer. It’s still a fraught descent.

The comes the Col de Moissière, not a famous name but it will leave it’s mark today, a hard climb on a narrow, rough road and then only a short descent as they drop on to a plateau and then 25km across to the main climb of the day.

The Finish: a combo of climbs, identical to the finish used in 2013 when Samuel Sanchez won. The Col du Noyer (“Walnut Tree Pass”) is hard with irregular gradients and a series of hairpin bends with stunning views of the valley below. The upper slopes are particularly steep. They’re followed a fast six kilometre descent and then it’s straight to the finish, 4km at 5.9%.

Current standings:

Abandons Stage 6:
DNS: NERZ, Dominik (Bora-Argon 18)
DNF: SARAMOTINS, Aleksejs (IAM Cycling)
DNF: BEPPU, Fumiyuki (Trek - Segafredo)
DNF: HAAS, Nathan (Dimension Data)
DNF: ANTON, Igor (Dimension Data)
DNF: BOZIC, Borut (Cofidis, Solutions Crédits)
153 of 176 riders remain in the race.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Great work, Praying Mantis. It's a solid stage presentation.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Break away will take this one. Hesjedal FTW.

 

[undencem]

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Why is contador in bad shape and froomey in good shape after long period of preparation ? Dont try to find excuses for contador
It is end of an era for contador.

Looks like contador is always training but froomey is always winning.

Contador will beat Froome today. Just wait and see.

What makes you hope this ?

 

[RattaKuningas]

Re: Re:

Why is contador in bad shape and froomey in good shape after long period of preparation ? Dont try to find excuses for contador
It is end of an era for contador.

Looks like contador is always training but froomey is always winning.

Contador will beat Froome today. Just wait and see.

What makes you hope this ?

After going on attack twice earlier in yesterdays stage Contador didn't lose much in the end to Froome. He was clearly much better than in stage 5.
I just hope that as Contador was better yesterday that he is even better today.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Why is contador in bad shape and froomey in good shape after long period of preparation ? Dont try to find excuses for contador
It is end of an era . Froome evolved to top level cyclist from nothing while contador was big star even under 23. This is the success of british cycling against spanish. Success of science against tradition. But french , spanish and italians are still insisting on old school.

Contador is always training but Froome is always winning.

There isn't that much between them...
For one thing Contador tries too hard some times to chase the race as yesterday so tired at the stage end
The day before the climb suited Froome/Porte better
Tinkoff team is not half as strong as SKY who can chase Contador for Froome
Froome is not unbeatable but Contador needs to wait and bide his time at the Tour...Froome will weaken as the race goes on

However Contador has lost some of his explosive speed with age...But hence he needs to wait for the longer later climbs before attacking and needs ot use his power selectively

 

[CheckMyPecs]

We're off for today, with attacks coming thick and fast as riders try to form a breakaway.

 

[undencem]

Re: Re:

Why is contador in bad shape and froomey in good shape after long period of preparation ? Dont try to find excuses for contador
It is end of an era . Froome evolved to top level cyclist from nothing while contador was big star even under 23. This is the success of british cycling against spanish. Success of science against tradition. But french , spanish and italians are still insisting on old school.

Contador is always training but Froome is always winning.

There isn't that much between them...
For one thing Contador tries too hard some times to chase the race as yesterday so tired at the stage end
The day before the climb suited Froome/Porte better
Tinkoff team is not half as strong as SKY who can chase Contador for Froome
Froome is not unbeatable but Contador needs to wait and bide his time at the Tour...Froome will weaken as the race goes on

However Contador has lost some of his explosive speed with age...But hence he needs to wait for the longer later climbs before attacking and needs ot use his power selectively

With this squad of tinkoff , contador cannot beat froome. Pls try to match Geraint thomas , landa , henao , poels , sergio henao with riders from tinkoff. No hope for tdf. Cycling is a team sport , brothers . Never forget it

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Peloton back together but the attacks continue.

 

[wirral]

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So wht is the story with Aru ?? Will he ready fro the Tour ? Yesterday eh looked bad ...has he been to the Nibali school of GT preparation then

Nibali may have given him the "evil eye".

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Roy in the break to protect Pinot's mountains jersey.

 

[The Barb]

Looks like Sky might not be ready to let this break go just yet. Not sure why they'd worry too much with JVDB best placed 8 minutes down.

Edit: Probably they were just pulling back Rolland who was in the middle. Gap expanding now.

 

[Hakkapelit]

About yesterday, would Tinkoff had been able to put Sky under more pressure by help pacing the break with Ag2r

 

[Poursuivant]

It's on itv4 at 12:30

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

etixx controlling, might try to win this stage with alaphillippe or daniel martin

 

[The Barb]

Not sure Etixx really have capability (Tony Martin excluded) to bring it back. Pretty disappointing break overall. Was hoping someone 3-5 minutes back on the GC might have made it in to keep things interesting.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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etixx controlling, might try to win this stage with alaphillippe or daniel martin

If I was a betting man, which I ain't, I'd put my money on Martin rather than Alaphilippe. The latter seems to be fading a bit.

 

[yaco]

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I actually heard on The Telegraph's podcast during the Giro that it basically came down to the routes. On paper, I would definitely say that this years TdF route suits Chaves better than the Giro's, but then you obviously also have to compete against the best of the best and you still have Yatesx2 who probably don't wan't to do the Giro.

It comes down to what Chaves wants ultimately after his performance in this Giro. Orica wanna please him as much as they can

You are correct - OGE wanted Chavez to have more experience riding GT's, hence why he rode the Giro and will do the Vuelta - The profile at the 2016 TDF was more suitable for Chavez, but of course the competition would be more challenging.

Bank it in - Chavez will ride the 2017 TDF as well as during the Australian summer.

 

[yaco]

Think the break will win today - Leading GC riders will be more concerned about preserving their positions - Biggest battle likely to be young riders competition between A.Yates and Alaphalippe.

 

[HelloDolly]

Biggest battle today will be fro the podium behind Froome