2016 Giro d'Italia, Stage 21: Cuneo → Torino (163 km)

[Praying Mantis]

Did not think they would have the balls to go through with this, I guess the jury really is quite independent.

 

[Breh]

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It's a shame they didn't show us the helicopter video from the sprint

They did, but with all the trees it was not the best view.

Edit: Again someone answering the same seconds before

Nizzolo of this forum

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Nizzolo knew that he would likely be disqualified, otherwise he and his team wouldn't have put on that cringeworthy pantomime.

 

[dfromdub]

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Did not think they would have the balls to go through with this, I guess the jury really is quite independent.

LOL

Jury is in fact from The Vatican and San Marino

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Seemed odd that they did the major prize giving before the minor one. Would have been embarrassing if it had been the other way round.

 

[staubsauger]

Seriously, this liverwurst reaction of Nizzolo & Trek is the final nail in the coffee.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Serves Trek right for that way over-the-top victory celebration which was obviously staged to try and present race officials with a fait accompli.

Or it could be genuine happiness after a Giro with so many near-misses

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Serves Trek right for that way over-the-top victory celebration which was obviously staged to try and present race officials with a fait accompli.

Or it could be genuine happiness after a Giro with so many near-misses

It's like when football players celebrate a goal like crazy when they know they were off-side or touched the ball with a hand. It's just a charade to trick the referee.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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Serves Trek right for that way over-the-top victory celebration which was obviously staged to try and present race officials with a fait accompli.

Or it could be genuine happiness after a Giro with so many near-misses

It's like when football players celebrate a goal like crazy when they know they were off-side or touched the ball with a hand. It's just a charade to trick the referee.

I understand your argument, but that's not the point. How can you know the celebration wasn't genuine?

 

[WillemS]

Didn't expect him to actually get DQ'ed, but I think it's justified. It was a dangerous move, as dangerous as they get during a sprint. I'm happy they used fences that don't have feet on the road side, would have been a horrible crash otherwise.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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I understand your argument, but that's not the point. How can you know the celebration wasn't genuine?

Can I prove it before a court of law? No. But I wasn't born yesterday.

 

[VanBsr]

1:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd2WRWZw3Cc

 

[WildspokeJoe]

DQ made total sense.
Celebration seemed genuine.

 

[Robert5091]

"Karma is against me; I don't know what I have done wrong to have this." Always the bridesmaid ...

 

[staubsauger]

Seems like Nizzolo's literally begging to be called a loser.

You just *** it up once again! Get over it.

 

[Praying Mantis]

Celebrate good times, come on! Nizzolo receiving his points jersey: https://streamable.com/gdp3

 

[yaco]

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It looks like Jack Bobridge will finally be able to finish a gt, will he be able to defend the Maglia Nera on the last stage (he's only 51 seconds ahead of Riccardo Stacchiotti)?
Sadly that would probably be the highlight of Trek's Giro.

A lazy rider - Always last rider in the peleton and never seems to help the team - Have no idea how he found a WT team.

 

[May0maniac]

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It looks like Jack Bobridge will finally be able to finish a gt, will he be able to defend the Maglia Nera on the last stage (he's only 51 seconds ahead of Riccardo Stacchiotti)?
Sadly that would probably be the highlight of Trek's Giro.

A lazy rider - Always last rider in the peleton and never seems to help the team - Have no idea how he found a WT team.

He's only good in the heat and could have been a decent addition to Trek's California team, but what was his first race when they finally brought him to Europe? A snowy LBL, followed by Romandie and the Giro, not exactly a great scedule for a guy who sucks in bad weather and is only able to perform on a decent level in the heat.
When he's racing in the heat he's able to perform and worth of a WT contract, otherwise he's not. Give him a scedule filled races that take place in the heat and he could actually get some result, signing him and sending him to races in Europe where cold weather is rather usual is just pointless.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

The official website giroditalia.it lists Van Zyl and Sutterlin as having finished, and have given them rankings in the final GC, despite them not finishing. Is this a clerical error, unnoticed because they are so far down the rankngs, or were the commentators wrong in constantly telling us that Nibali only had to finish to be Giro winner? Was it in fact the case that he only needed to reach the city centre circuit? Was Uran wasting his time bothering to finish in some discomfort after his fall?

 

[BigMac]

The most ironic outcome after all the talk about Kruijswijk eventual win being asterisked,

 

[RedheadDane]

Here are my five-cents regarding the Nizzolo-debacle (despite not actually having watched the stage...)

Okay... I dunno if what he did was wrong or against the rules. However, it does seem a bit strange to me that Nizzolo was relegated for weering into Modolo after which the stage win was given to... Arndt! Normally when a rider is relegated for weeing into another it's the rider being weered into who gets the win, not a completely random one. Of course Modolo couldn't have gotten the win, because he didn't cross the line in second position after Nizzolo. Would he have been able to cross the line in first if Nizzolo hadn't weered into him? Maybe... maybe not...

 

[LPP68!]

Arndt is no random rider. He is the first rider to cross the line without breaking a rule. Seems quite fair to me.

 

[kolivansemen]

notable horses!

 

[hrotha]

Yeah, they don't hand over the stage to whoever was obstructed. They don't hand over the stage to anyone, per se - they disqualify the infractor, and the rest of the classification is what it is.

It's not about compensating Modolo. It's about punishing Nizzolo.

 

[RedheadDane]

Arndt was random in the sense that he just happened to have been the one crossing the line in second position.
I know it's not about compensating Modolo, but did Nizzolo's weering really affect the result of the race? Who's to say he wouldn't have finished in first position - and Modolo in fourth - anyway? And - perhaps more importantly - would Nizzolo still have been punished if he'd finished in, say, fifth position?

Also... what place did Nizzolo get relegated to?