2016 GP Cyclistes: Québec et Montréal, Sep. 9 and 11

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I only watched the last 5 km, but damn that was exciting. Sagan with his old problem which cost him so many races this spring. Everyone expects him to close every gap but after that much work his sprint just isn't that good anymore so guys like GVA can beat him. Anyway I guess it's fair that Sagan won the first and Greg the 2nd race. Probably the two strongest guys there.
 
That said, Rui Costa might have not won a race yet this season but his 2016 version is much more likeable in that he's attacked more often since this year's Tour of Oman than all his entire career before. Same with Mollema, very active inbetween splits today.

Congratulations to Greg. Either him or Sagan had to win for all the work they did chasing.
 
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BigMac said:
That said, Rui Costa might have not won a race yet this season but his 2016 version is much more likeable in that he's attacked more often since this year's Tour of Oman than all his entrie career before. Same with Mollema, very active inbetween splits today.

Congratulations to Greg. Either him or Sagan had to win for all the work they did chasing.

Sagan did heck of a lot more.

I'd like to see Greg in Sagan's position where everyone would look to him to close all the gaps.
 
Gigs_98 said:
I only watched the last 5 km, but damn that was exciting. Sagan with his old problem which cost him so many races this spring. Everyone expects him to close every gap but after that much work his sprint just isn't that good anymore so guys like GVA can beat him. Anyway I guess it's fair that Sagan won the first and Greg the 2nd race. Probably the two strongest guys there.

Sagan pulling a lot last two kilometeres. Typical Greg win against Sagan. You could see how superior is Sagan sprint compares to Greg at friday. But honestly I think that pursuivaints working together quite good. Sagan done most work though. Anyway that was a lot better race than Quebec as usual.
 
Keram said:
Gigs_98 said:
I only watched the last 5 km, but damn that was exciting. Sagan with his old problem which cost him so many races this spring. Everyone expects him to close every gap but after that much work his sprint just isn't that good anymore so guys like GVA can beat him. Anyway I guess it's fair that Sagan won the first and Greg the 2nd race. Probably the two strongest guys there.

Sagan pulling a lot last two kilometeres. Typical Greg win against Sagan. You could see how superior is Sagan sprint compares to Greg at friday. But honestly I think that pursuivaints working together quite good. Sagan done most work though. Anyway that was a lot better race than Quebec as usual.
Van Avermaet is the stronger sprinter at the end of tough races with lots of climbing; always has been. Sagan can either work really hard in a race, or he can sprint well. He can't do both.
 
Greg took an awful lot of pulls too and is now superior to Sagan whenever the race is hard. The Slovak's absence in Rio is quite significant about the fact he cannot climb anymore. 3 years ago he attacked on Polytech and held through, now he's not able to outsprint Greg. In Quebec Greg was just too badly positioned.
 
DFA123 said:
Keram said:
Gigs_98 said:
I only watched the last 5 km, but damn that was exciting. Sagan with his old problem which cost him so many races this spring. Everyone expects him to close every gap but after that much work his sprint just isn't that good anymore so guys like GVA can beat him. Anyway I guess it's fair that Sagan won the first and Greg the 2nd race. Probably the two strongest guys there.

Sagan pulling a lot last two kilometeres. Typical Greg win against Sagan. You could see how superior is Sagan sprint compares to Greg at friday. But honestly I think that pursuivaints working together quite good. Sagan done most work though. Anyway that was a lot better race than Quebec as usual.
Van Avermaet is the stronger sprinter at the end of tough races with lots of climbing; always has been. Sagan can either work really hard in a race, or he can sprint well. He can't do both.
:D lol . Trolling?
 
SKSemtex said:
DFA123 said:
Keram said:
Gigs_98 said:
I only watched the last 5 km, but damn that was exciting. Sagan with his old problem which cost him so many races this spring. Everyone expects him to close every gap but after that much work his sprint just isn't that good anymore so guys like GVA can beat him. Anyway I guess it's fair that Sagan won the first and Greg the 2nd race. Probably the two strongest guys there.

Sagan pulling a lot last two kilometeres. Typical Greg win against Sagan. You could see how superior is Sagan sprint compares to Greg at friday. But honestly I think that pursuivaints working together quite good. Sagan done most work though. Anyway that was a lot better race than Quebec as usual.
Van Avermaet is the stronger sprinter at the end of tough races with lots of climbing; always has been. Sagan can either work really hard in a race, or he can sprint well. He can't do both.
:D lol . Trolling?
No. He's clearly the better sprinter at the end of a hard race. At the end of a flat stage of a stage race, or a fairly easily ridden classic Sagan is way faster. At the end of a monument or tough, hilly race where both riders have had to work hard, GVA is better - always has been.

Fortunately Sagan also knows this; which is why he didn't wait for the sprint in his two big wins so far.
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Sagan did like 90% of the work. Bit of a cheap win by GVA
What are you guys talking about. Sagan did most work yes, but then GVA (he also formed that second break). They were the two strongest guys. Sagan pulled too much from km 2 to km 1, yes, but there were 7 other guys in the group (2 Etixx guys), so you cannot really blame VA being 'cheap'. That's just, er, cheap.