2016 Paris - Nice, March 6th - 13th, WT

[Gigs_98]

Dont misunderstand me, the stage was great without any doubt and Geraints effort on the last descent was really impressive, but I don't know if I would say the win was deserved for Geraint. Lets be honest, this race was won by his team not by him. If he would have been isolated from the beginning of the Eze on he wouldnt have had a chance. The win was deserved for the team which was as usually superb, but the rider himself, who was maybe the 15th best on the final climb of the last stage and only managed to rescue his victory with the help of a teammate and a rugby fellow didnt really deserve a win in my opinion.

So Alberto doesn't deserve 2nd because of all the work Majka did?

Well, Majka wasnt even almost as important for Contador as Henao and the rest of team sky was for Thomas

 

[Bushman]

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Inner ring on Twitter: Gallopin tells Eurosport he chased in case of a sprint for the stage plus "I get on well with Thomas, we talk rugby, messages each other"

Chapeau lad, brilliant reason to chase down a teammate...

He didnt chase down a team mate. Please dont alter reality because you are p*ssed about the outcome. Gallopin rode gave Lotto the best chance of getting the victory as well as the best possible result they could achieve. Too bad it didnt work out for Contador, it was one hell of a ride, but dont blame Gallopin for doing his job

 

[TMP402]

Dont misunderstand me, the stage was great without any doubt and Geraints effort on the last descent was really impressive, but I don't know if I would say the win was deserved for Geraint. Lets be honest, this race was won by his team not by him. If he would have been isolated from the beginning of the Eze on he wouldnt have had a chance. The win was deserved for the team which was as usually superb, but the rider himself, who was maybe the 15th best on the final climb of the last stage and only managed to rescue his victory with the help of a teammate and a rugby fellow didnt really deserve a win in my opinion.

So Alberto doesn't deserve 2nd because of all the work Majka did?

Well, Majka wasnt even almost as important for Contador as Henao and the rest of team sky was for Thomas

Majka's efforts gapped Thomas (and Henao) though...

 

[HelloDolly]

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Thomas interview: "to beat Contador, one of the best stage races ever... it's unbelievable, the biggest win of my career for sure"

Snotty brat. Yeah sure, go on and rub some salt in the wound. He should be thanking his lucky stars that stage 3 got cancelled.

Sound like a bitter shrew ...very sad

 

[Orbit501]

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Ehm what? I believe there was one big group between his teammate and him.

Yes, and anyone with more than 3 brain cells could have put 2 and 2 together and realized that with Thomas and Henao back in the group, that group would have a larger chance of coming back to the front group.

In which case, Gallopin would have won the stage.

Correct.

Who won the sprint behind again? Oh yes, that would be Gallopin.

 

[Hayabusa]

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Ehm what? I believe there was one big group between his teammate and him.

Yes, and anyone with more than 3 brain cells could have put 2 and 2 together and realized that with Thomas and Henao back in the group, that group would have a larger chance of coming back to the front group.

In which case, Gallopin would have won the stage.

Correct.

Who won the sprint behind again? Oh yes, that would be Gallopin.

Don't bring facts into this debate...

 

[LaFlorecita]

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It is his job to get the best result he can for himself or his team, he got 4th on the stage and 8th in GC for himself, without damaging his team-mate's stage win. How much better than that could he have done.

You wanted Contador to beat Thomas, Gallopin had no dog in that fight.

He risked compromising his teammate's win. Either he is just incredibly stupid or he wanted to help Thomas. And guess what, that's bloody hell, he even admitted it himself "I like Thomas, we talk about rugby" how much more obvious do you want it?

Come on! He wasn't being nasty and was subdued when he said it, it is a big deal for him to have beaten Contador.

Yes, and him bragging about how he beat Contador is rubbing me in all the wrong ways. Maybe I am being irrational but the way I see it everything these Sky riders say is always full of underhand arrogance and nastiness and false humility.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Ehm what? I believe there was one big group between his teammate and him.

Yes, and anyone with more than 3 brain cells could have put 2 and 2 together and realized that with Thomas and Henao back in the group, that group would have a larger chance of coming back to the front group.

In which case, Gallopin would have won the stage.

Correct.

Who won the sprint behind again? Oh yes, that would be Gallopin.

Yep, not like they were a million miles behind either. They lost by 5s and another k they'd have probably caught the front trio.

 

[Hayabusa]

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It is his job to get the best result he can for himself or his team, he got 4th on the stage and 8th in GC for himself, without damaging his team-mate's stage win. How much better than that could he have done.

You wanted Contador to beat Thomas, Gallopin had no dog in that fight.

He risked compromising his teammate's win. Either he is just incredibly stupid or he wanted to help Thomas. And guess what, that's bloody hell, he even admitted it himself "I like Thomas, we talk about rugby" how much more obvious do you want it?

Come on! He wasn't being nasty and was subdued when he said it, it is a big deal for him to have beaten Contador.

Yes, and him bragging about how he beat Contador is rubbing me in all the wrong ways. Maybe I am being irrational but the way I see it everything these Sky riders say is always full of underhand arrogance and nastiness and false humility.

Even if Gallopin did help Thomas, how many times have the Spanish armada ganged up on a foreign rider in the Vuelta for example? Don't get salty cause this time it didn't favour Contador..

 

[Bushman]

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Inner ring on Twitter: Gallopin tells Eurosport he chased in case of a sprint for the stage plus "I get on well with Thomas, we talk rugby, messages each other"

Chapeau lad, brilliant reason to chase down a teammate...

He chased down the first chase group, ffs. Not the front group!

Lotto-Soudal rode a perfect race, regarding of the classification.

He helped Thomas get back to the group, then Thomas went directly to the front and almost managed to chase down the front trio.

Wellens had a pretty sure win and Gallopin put the win in danger. It is not debatable that Gallopin helping Thomas made Lotto's chance to win the stage lower.

Except that Gallopin won the sprint in the chase group comfortably. What if the chase group would have caught the leaders and Gallopin wouldnt have been there? Then Lotto wouldnt have won the stage either way

 

[portugal11]

How can people say that contador wouln't destroyed thomas in brouilly? So ridiculous...

 

[StryderHells]

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How can people say that contador wouln't destroyed thomas in brouilly? So ridiculous...

Why?

 

[Bushman]

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Thomas interview: "to beat Contador, one of the best stage races ever... it's unbelievable, the biggest win of my career for sure"

Snotty brat. Yeah sure, go on and rub some salt in the wound. He should be thanking his lucky stars that stage 3 got cancelled.

You are unbelievable.

 

[staubsauger]

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Thomas is a descent fellow and a very strong rider ...He is in the mode of Wiggins and not a natural climber ...If he wins stage races and GTs he will need a very very strong team. SKY had by far the strongest team in this race

it's truly a nonsensical classification as 'real' climbers can be born only in spain, italy and colombia.

Add France, and bar exceptions, you've got it right.

Rasmussen, Gaul & Peter Winnen disagree!

 

[rainman]

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Thomas is a descent fellow and a very strong rider ...He is in the mode of Wiggins and not a natural climber ...If he wins stage races and GTs he will need a very very strong team. SKY had by far the strongest team in this race

In Catyluna thye have an even stronger team

Its going to be hard for any other team to beat them

What a thrilling prospect.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Correct.

Who won the sprint behind again? Oh yes, that would be Gallopin.

How wonderful that Gallopin was so incredibly *** sure that he would beat all riders in the 2nd group in a sprint to the point that he was willing to strengthen the group that was chasing his teammate for it. Bet he was hoping Wellens got caught too so he would have gotten the win. Gallopin is the latest addition to my *** list!

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Thomas interview: "to beat Contador, one of the best stage races ever... it's unbelievable, the biggest win of my career for sure"

Snotty brat. Yeah sure, go on and rub some salt in the wound. He should be thanking his lucky stars that stage 3 got cancelled.

You are unbelievable.

Think it's just heat of the moment. Absolutely nothing malicious in what G said he was actually being very complimentary about Alberto.

 

[TMP402]

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It is his job to get the best result he can for himself or his team, he got 4th on the stage and 8th in GC for himself, without damaging his team-mate's stage win. How much better than that could he have done.

You wanted Contador to beat Thomas, Gallopin had no dog in that fight.

He risked compromising his teammate's win. Either he is just incredibly stupid or he wanted to help Thomas. And guess what, that's bloody hell, he even admitted it himself "I like Thomas, we talk about rugby" how much more obvious do you want it?

Come on! He wasn't being nasty and was subdued when he said it, it is a big deal for him to have beaten Contador.

Yes, and him bragging about how he beat Contador is rubbing me in all the wrong ways. Maybe I am being irrational but the way I see it everything these Sky riders say is always full of underhand arrogance and nastiness and false humility.

1. Did Contador not deserve to win races when he relied on riders from other teams for support?
2. I guess it doesn't come through in my post but Thomas was saying he was delighted to have won, because Contador is such a legend that to beat him is amazing and special to him. I didn't take it as arrogance at all, more respect for Contador's ability.

 

[Carols]

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It is his job to get the best result he can for himself or his team, he got 4th on the stage and 8th in GC for himself, without damaging his team-mate's stage win. How much better than that could he have done.

You wanted Contador to beat Thomas, Gallopin had no dog in that fight.

He risked compromising his teammate's win. Either he is just incredibly stupid or he wanted to help Thomas. And guess what, that's bloody hell, he even admitted it himself "I like Thomas, we talk about rugby" how much more obvious do you want it?

Come on! He wasn't being nasty and was subdued when he said it, it is a big deal for him to have beaten Contador.

Yes, and him bragging about how he beat Contador is rubbing me in all the wrong ways. Maybe I am being irrational but the way I see it everything these Sky riders say is always full of underhand arrogance and nastiness and false humility.

Flo that is being unfair. He was very humble, thankful and low key. There was no gloating or arrogance that I could see. As everyone knows I'm no Sky fan but Thomas appeared nothing more than grateful for having saved his race.

 

[Orbit501]

Dont misunderstand me, the stage was great without any doubt and Geraints effort on the last descent was really impressive, but I don't know if I would say the win was deserved for Geraint. Lets be honest, this race was won by his team not by him. If he would have been isolated from the beginning of the Eze on he wouldnt have had a chance. The win was deserved for the team which was as usually superb, but the rider himself, who was maybe the 15th best on the final climb of the last stage and only managed to rescue his victory with the help of a teammate and a rugby fellow didnt really deserve a win in my opinion.

So Alberto doesn't deserve 2nd because of all the work Majka did?

That's right. In fact, let's forget it being a team sport all together and let every race just be Mano-o-Mano

 

[LaFlorecita]

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How can people say that contador wouln't destroyed thomas in brouilly? So ridiculous...

I know, right. On every moderately steep section Contador gapped Thomas.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

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How can people say that contador wouln't destroyed thomas in brouilly? So ridiculous...

I know, right. On every moderately steep section Contador gapped Thomas.

I seem to remember Thomas dropping Contador at the finish yesterday. I must have imagined it.

 

[Bushman]

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It is his job to get the best result he can for himself or his team, he got 4th on the stage and 8th in GC for himself, without damaging his team-mate's stage win. How much better than that could he have done.

You wanted Contador to beat Thomas, Gallopin had no dog in that fight.

He risked compromising his teammate's win. Either he is just incredibly stupid or he wanted to help Thomas. And guess what, that's bloody hell, he even admitted it himself "I like Thomas, we talk about rugby" how much more obvious do you want it?

Come on! He wasn't being nasty and was subdued when he said it, it is a big deal for him to have beaten Contador.

Yes, and him bragging about how he beat Contador is rubbing me in all the wrong ways. Maybe I am being irrational but the way I see it everything these Sky riders say is always full of underhand arrogance and nastiness and false humility.

He is not bragging about anything. He is expressing his emotional delight with winning his biggest (road) race to date. You are, once again, being ridiculous.

 

[dacooley]

cycling world must revolve around the only one, the king, any different situation sometimes dims fans' mind.

 

[Orbit501]

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Correct.

Who won the sprint behind again? Oh yes, that would be Gallopin.

How wonderful that Gallopin was so incredibly **** sure that he would beat all riders in the 2nd group in a sprint to the point that he was willing to strengthen the group that was chasing his teammate for it. Bet he was hoping Wellens got caught too so he would have gotten the win. Gallopin is the latest addition to my **** list!

I'm sure Gallopin won't be losing any sleep over it. I expect every rider who isn't Bertie is on the list already anyway

Why can't you just accept what a great stage we've just witnessed, and better still, that it was your man that made it happen. I'm pleased for G to win as he was under the cosh yet fought back to hold on. However, I would have been equally pleased to see Bert win today because his teams tatics and him at his attacking best ensured we all had a great spectacle today.

Sour grapes doesn't make anyone look good.