2016 TdF, Stage 12: Montpellier → Mont Ventoux (178km)

[El Pistolero]

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In 2011 stage 1 Contador's group got taken out by a spectator on a flat stage. He lost 1.20 and without that loss he would have been on the podium.

Why should spectators taking out riders suddenly be neutralised if its never been before?

Because times change??? 2011... different juries, different opinions.

And essentially, Tour PR. Tour would be mockery across the world and media if they let that stand like that.

Why did GVA not win the CSS last year then?

Because they rather see British cyclists win.

 

[Fight.The.Power]

Mmmm not sure I agree that the times should have been effectively neutralized. And certainly not if this means ASO can disregard their lack of organisation by simply making up times to those affected.

 

[djpbaltimore]

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In 2011 stage 1 Contador's group got taken out by a spectator on a flat stage. He lost 1.20 and without that loss he would have been on the podium.

Why should spectators taking out riders suddenly be neutralised if its never been before?

Apples and oranges. You have the fact that the motorbike was involved, so there is some direct responsibility for the organization. And you have the fact that the team support was essentially nil due to the course congestion.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

What rule have they invented to prevent Froome from being DQ'd for moving without a bike?

Inb4 they penalise Aru but not Froome

 

[Gloin22]

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Apparently, the two will get Mollema's time.

That's messed up..

how?

How is it not?

Spectators have caused crashes before with no neutralisations taking place.

Indeed. But this was and could be blamed on ASO directly.

The fans from the top got down and there was too many people on the road. They *** up.

 

[saganftw]

they decided to screw some riders and unscrew some others which still makes the bad decision bad

 

[JetSet]

This is what happens when the biggest stage has the last 5k lopped of it, where do you think the tens of thousands of fans camped up there are going to go?

Pete

 

[attila]

So, running without a bike is ok? I'd neutralize and give him a small penalty for running.

 

[spalco]

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Froome's bike had a broken fork apparently:

 

[RattaKuningas]

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In 2011 stage 1 Contador's group got taken out by a spectator on a flat stage. He lost 1.20 and without that loss he would have been on the podium.

Why should spectators taking out riders suddenly be neutralised if its never been before?

Apples and oranges. You have the fact that the motorbike was involved, so there is some direct responsibility for the organization. And you have the fact that the team support was essentially nil due to the course congestion.

Motorbike was involved but fan caused the crash.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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[SeriousSam]

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This is what happens when the biggest stage has the last 5k lopped of it, where do you think the tens of thousands of fans camped up there are going to go?

Pete

Yeah, I did not foresee this, but it was foreseeable in retrospect. Shame on the organisers.

 

[ggusta]

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Chris Froome ‏@chrisfroome 1m

Still in the #YellowJersey #TDF

Does he get any time bonus for winning the sprint?

 

[DFA123]

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Froome's bike had a broken fork apparently:

Hmmm, I don't think I'll be buying a pinarello any time soon. Was hardly a high speed pile up.

 

[Ramira]

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Froome's bike had a broken fork apparently:

Well that explained why he left it. Figured there was some real reason. And this was not exactly fixable.

 

[MatParker117]

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What rule have they invented to prevent Froome from being DQ'd for moving without a bike?

Inb4 they penalise Aru but not Froome

Your allowed to do so if your team car is blocked to reach neutral service, the Sky car was stuck behind the jury's.

 

[RattaKuningas]

This decision makes the situation even worse. At first you had 2.5 riders affected by the decision (Mollema managed to keep going quickly so I give 0.5) but now the whole peloton is affected by this and there are even more people who are not happy. Terrible decision.

 

[doperhopper]

vroom cannot be decorated because tinkoff bus is blocking camera view... all gods do not want this

 

[Sartorius]

Even after neutralization Quintana is winner here...he would have definitely lost more seconds without that incident.

 

[beatthatrat]

I wonder is the podium set for Paris though.

 

[DFA123]

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Even after neutralization Quintana is winner here...he would have definitely lost more seconds without that incident.

Obviously you can't know that.

 

[Enrico Gimondi]

Boy, Froome got bailed out because Quintana proved he's the best climber in the world and dropped Froome on that climb.

 

[TMP402]

Dumb fans boo Froome. Sky's charm offensive undone through no fault of their own.

 

[infeXio]

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Apparently, the two will get Mollema's time.

That's messed up..

how?

How is it not?

Spectators have caused crashes before with no neutralisations taking place.

Indeed. But this was and could be blamed on ASO directly.

The fans from the top got down and there was too many people on the road. They **** up.

So by that logic ASO have to compensate Froome but not the rest of the peloton for the sheer reason that he was essentially held back more than others..

 

[Amsterhammer]

What a great win for De Gendt! Seems to have been forgotten....