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2016 TdF, Stage 15: Bourg-en-Bresse → Culoz (160km)

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for all idiots complaining about lack of GC action : if a domestique is doing 350+ watts at the front you cannot attack from that

just so you know why the tour is boring

The only counter attack to this is 5 or 6 man teams. Something which needs to happen ASAP!
 
5 or 6 man teams? No problem! Froome, Poels, Nieve, Landa, Thomas. Stannard on the flats for 6. It's not that easy. If it were the USPS days you could have Lance, Landis, Heras, Basso, Azevedo and Hamilton for a 6 man team. It's not that easy if the money (and let's leave it at that) is all in the same team...
 
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dgodave said:
I'm going to TelAviv/Jerusalem. And I'm bringing some German hair energizer.
Don't forget to revolutionise your kitchen by getting rid of your cooker hood.

(How are we supposed to get from Tel Aviv-Jerusalem-twocitiesonebreak to Argentina in half time, anyway?)
 
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saganftw said:
for all idiots complaining about lack of GC action : if a domestique is doing 350+ watts at the front you cannot attack from that

just so you know why the tour is boring

Movistar had 2 people in the early break and Valverde and Quintana. Yet they tried nothing. Sky Doms might have been bossing it but thats no excuse for not at least trying. They allowed Poels to ride tempo without even testing him.
 
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5 or 6 man teams? No problem! Froome, Poels, Nieve, Landa, Thomas. Stannard on the flats for 6. It's not that easy. If it were the USPS days you could have Lance, Landis, Heras, Basso, Azevedo and Hamilton for a 6 man team. It's not that easy if the money (...) is all in the same team...

And that's the problem right there.
 
Won't be watching full stages anymore. Only last hour or so.
Cycling has changed compared to previous time but there is no point of watching this racing either. I have no idea why organisers didn't do mtf for today. Most of the GC riders only try something when there is a mtf because Froome is too good on flats.
 
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Richeypen said:
saganftw said:
for all idiots complaining about lack of GC action : if a domestique is doing 350+ watts at the front you cannot attack from that

just so you know why the tour is boring

Movistar had 2 people in the early break and Valverde and Quintana. Yet they tried nothing. Sky Doms might have been bossing it but thats no excuse for not at least trying. They allowed Poels to ride tempo without even testing him.

THIS. THIS. THIS.
 
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Richeypen said:
saganftw said:
for all idiots complaining about lack of GC action : if a domestique is doing 350+ watts at the front you cannot attack from that

just so you know why the tour is boring

Movistar had 2 people in the early break and Valverde and Quintana. Yet they tried nothing. Sky Doms might have been bossing it but thats no excuse for not at least trying. They allowed Poels to ride tempo without even testing him.
They did try. They sent Valverde on an attack. Presumably they told him, rather than just going all in and burning himself out, to ride just above his threshold, at the kind of pace that Quintana could sustain for the remainder of the climb. Once they saw Poels easily reel it in and Froome looking comfortable, they realised that it was hopeless Quintana trying to attack and that he'd likely end up losing time.

Intent and aggression is irrelevant if one rider and his team are putting out significantly more watts than everyone else.
 
Would've liked to see Ala contest the sprint, but Pantano earned that one IMO. He brought big deficits back on both of the final 2 descents. Majka probably spent too many matches following Zakarin. He should've waited for the Lacets to make the difference uphill.

Even though TJ is only 20 sec behind Porte, he should sacrifice his GC and try to launch Porte on one of the mountain stages.
 
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Publicus said:
Richeypen said:
saganftw said:
for all idiots complaining about lack of GC action : if a domestique is doing 350+ watts at the front you cannot attack from that

just so you know why the tour is boring

Movistar had 2 people in the early break and Valverde and Quintana. Yet they tried nothing. Sky Doms might have been bossing it but thats no excuse for not at least trying. They allowed Poels to ride tempo without even testing him.

THIS. THIS. THIS.

On the face of it, Movistar has a stronger climbing team than Sky. The problem is either tactical - they haven't found a way to unseat a train - or physical - Quintana's just too weak.
 
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Richeypen said:
saganftw said:
for all idiots complaining about lack of GC action : if a domestique is doing 350+ watts at the front you cannot attack from that

just so you know why the tour is boring

Movistar had 2 people in the early break and Valverde and Quintana. Yet they tried nothing. Sky Doms might have been bossing it but thats no excuse for not at least trying. They allowed Poels to ride tempo without even testing him.
Aru, Vuelta winner, Giro runner up, and Valverde, former Vuelta winner, 2015 TfF gave it a huge dig. If Poels was riding tempo up that climb then he should win next year's Tour by and hour and a half.