2016 TdF, Stage 7: L'Isle-Jourdain → Lac de Payolle (163km)

[Pantani Attacks]

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Does anyone know if Betfair lets you bet on several different riders for the same stage win? If so, I'm totally creating an account and putting a pound apiece on Nibali, GvA and Vuillermoz.

I don't see why they wouldn't allow that. Only thing that I could see them not allowing is if you put a substantial stake on all three.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Actual stage odds on Betfair:

Vincenzo Nibali
2.5
Stephen Cummings
6.0
Alexis Vuillermoz
9.0
Alejandro Valverde
19.0
Daniel Navarro
12.0
Jan Bakelants
15.0
Greg Van Avermaet
15.0
Tony Martin
21.0
Fabian Cancellara
21.0
Romain Bardet
34.0
Daniel Martin
34.0
Simon Geschke
26.0
Chris Froome
34.0
Joaquim Rodriguez
34.0
Julian Alaphilippe
41.0
Kristijan Durasek
31.0
Nairo Quintana
51.0
Richie Porte
51.0
Fabio Aru
51.0
Alexey Lutsenko
51.0
Sylvain Chavanel
51.0
Gorka Izaguirre
31.0

That's equally ridiculous. Doesn't look like the breakaway will succeed, so 34.0 for Froome Rodriguez Martin and Bardet and 51 for Quintana are all also ridiculous

 

[Googolplex]

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Does anyone know if Betfair lets you bet on several different riders for the same stage win? If so, I'm totally creating an account and putting a pound apiece on Nibali, GvA and Vuillermoz.

I don't see why they wouldn't, because they're just an exchange - essentially if you put a pound on Nibali to win they're just matching you up with one or more people who have put a pound on him not winning, and taking a small cut for themselves.

They have non exchange betting too. But still I can't see why they wouldn't allow to bet more than one.

 

[sir fly]

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What do you think the break will need at foot of Aspin? 2/3 minutes?

More.
6 if someone's on a good day, I think.

edit:
Pardon me. I've forgotten Nibali.
4, then.

 

[ILovecycling]

This is not a betting section


This stage should be fun, I doubt that Sky and Movistar can reduce the gap significantly

 

[Googolplex]

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That's equally ridiculous. Doesn't look like the breakaway will succeed, so 34.0 for Froome Rodriguez Martin and Bardet and 51 for Quintana are all also ridiculous

They just lowered them.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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What do you think the break will need at foot of Aspin? 2/3 minutes?

More.
6 if someone's on a good day, I think.

Not with the likes of Nibali in the break. Probably closer to 3 or 4

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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That is a stale price. He is actually between 2/1 and 3/1.

Argh, true. For some reason the page stopped automatically reloading.

 

[sir fly]

They'll give Nibali opportunity to cut his deficit in half.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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They'll give Nibali opportunity to cut his deficit in half.

The gap is actually coming down now.

 

[sir fly]

Rain will fall somewhere along the route. Not sure if riders will be there on time.

 

[TomLPC]

I can't see froome not attacking, it's in his nature

 

[Carols]

LOL EuroSport is a cooking show! I'm watching their stream during commercials on my tv NBCSN presentation.

 

[sir fly]

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They'll give Nibali opportunity to cut his deficit in half.

The gap is actually coming down now.

Thought he's on 8 minutes.
Just saw he's 14 behind.

 

[WheelofGear]

Why are Bardet, Rodriguez and Martin at 34, but Aru/Porte/Quintana at 51? Makes no sense.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Nicolas Portal (Sky DS) just said on TV that Sky is working because Nibali is ahead.

 

[Carols]

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Nicolas Portal (Sky DS) just said on TV that Sky is working because Nibali is ahead.

Yep said not worried about GVA but can't let Nibali back into the race.

 

[Warhawk]

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Why are Bardet, Rodriguez and Martin at 34, but Aru/Porte/Quintana at 51? Makes no sense.

Probably the expectation that the former might dig for a stage win without serious GC aspirations but the latter might play it more conservatively.

 

[Jelantik]

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If it's on the GC teams to control this, Movi's avoiding their responsibility.

Movistar and Nairo have nothing to fear from Van Avermaet, so why work? If Sky want's to chase it's their problem, not Movistar's.

they probably forget their math. Nibali is only 8 minutes behind.

 

[Googolplex]

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Thought he's on 8 minutes.
Just saw he's 14 behind.

For the favourites it's only a bit under 9 minutes though.

 

[Lexman]

one Movistar riding with Sky...

 

[Warhawk]

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Nicolas Portal (Sky DS) just said on TV that Sky is working because Nibali is ahead.

Yep said not worried about GVA but can't let Nibali back into the race.

Right, but GVA is the reason they're not getting any help from BMC.

Whether any of this scheming actually works is another matter, but the other teams certainly seem to be trying to disrupt Sky as much as possible.

 

[Praying Mantis]

I have no actual say in the matter, but I'd appreciate it if betting was kept out of the stage threads, thank you.

 

[Jelantik]

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So Tinkoff should have had someone i the break today but not two days ago? Who should it have been and what use would it be? It is not like the onus will be on Tinkoff to chase the break in any case.

Tinkoff riders' absence from the break means Contador isn't the strongest rider in the team, at the moment.

or more likely, the entire of Contador's team is weak in the first place anyway. :lol:

 

[sir fly]

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Thought he's on 8 minutes.
Just saw he's 14 behind.

For the favourites it's only a bit under 9 minutes though.

Yes. I'm absentminded for some reason.