2016 Vuelta a España, Info & Discussion

[HelloDolly]

Froome will not dominate the Vuelta ...i think he will be below Contador and maybe a few others who are targetting the Vuelta and are fresh from not having ridden the Tour ...

Of course he wil go for it but I expect him to be tired esp in 3rd week

 

[vedrafjord]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

The Tour wasn't boring because of Froome, it was boring because he had a crazy strong train also peaking for the Tour and taking it in turns to keep the pace high and pull back attacks. That won't be the case nearly as much in the Vuelta.

 

[May0maniac]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

Has Froome ever been boring at the Vuelta? sky race the Vuelta differently

Not really, they still are at the front all the time. The only difference is that froome is usually worse.

I still remember 2014 La Camperona when Cataldo set a pace that was so high that Froome was almost dropped and in the end he still beat the other gc riders.
Yoyo Froome is usually fun to watch.

 

[CatsNK]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

The Tour wasn't boring because of Froome, it was boring because he had a crazy strong train also peaking for the Tour and taking it in turns to keep the pace high and pull back attacks. That won't be the case nearly as much in the Vuelta.

Good point. Hoping for a competitive battle without a single crazy strong team!

 

[RattaKuningas]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

I'm not disappointed because I want to see Contador drop him.

 

[johngoat]

Pistolero

 

[Krokro]

Any further info on the startlist guys ?

 

[Taxus4a]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

The Tour wasn't boring because of Froome, it was boring because he had a crazy strong train also peaking for the Tour and taking it in turns to keep the pace high and pull back attacks. That won't be the case nearly as much in the Vuelta.

The Tour was borig becouse Quitana wasnt at his usual level. The same Pinot.

 

[veji11]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

The Tour wasn't boring because of Froome, it was boring because he had a crazy strong train also peaking for the Tour and taking it in turns to keep the pace high and pull back attacks. That won't be the case nearly as much in the Vuelta.

Yeah, super strong teams are what makes a race boring, even when their leader sucks they make it boring, like the 2012 Liquigas on the Giro with a the leadfooted Basso... Weaker teams open up the race.

 

[TMP402]

Lotto Soudal's Vuelta team https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpkwkXdXEAAuQG8.jpg

 

[dacooley]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

The Tour wasn't boring because of Froome, it was boring because he had a crazy strong train also peaking for the Tour and taking it in turns to keep the pace high and pull back attacks. That won't be the case nearly as much in the Vuelta.

Yeah, super strong teams are what makes a race boring, even when their leader sucks they make it boring, like the 2012 Liquigas on the Giro with a the leadfooted Basso... Weaker teams open up the race.

its always down to team leaders either way.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Giant-Alpecin

Nikias Arndt (GER)
Warren Barguil (FRA)
Koen de Kort (NED)
Johannes Fröhlinger (GER)
Chad Haga (USA)
Tobias Ludvigsson (SWE)
Sindre Skjøstad Lunke (NOR)
Tom Stamsnijder (NED)
Zico Waeytens (BEL)

 

[staubsauger]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

The Tour wasn't boring because of Froome, it was boring because he had a crazy strong train also peaking for the Tour and taking it in turns to keep the pace high and pull back attacks. That won't be the case nearly as much in the Vuelta.

Yeah, super strong teams are what makes a race boring, even when their leader sucks they make it boring, like the 2012 Liquigas on the Giro with a the leadfooted Basso... Weaker teams open up the race.

its always down to team leaders either way.

Hmm. But at the 2012 Giro Liquigas somehow was surprised how bad Basso actually was. They still expected him to improve until in fact he even faded away. Otherwise I guess they wouldn't have chased down one of Cunegos earlier attacks, since they didn't reeled back in him and De Gendt later on when it was clear that Ivan ain't gonna win the Giro!

 

[silvergrenade]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

I'm not disappointed because I want to see Contador drop him.

Yeah? What would be hilarious would be Froome dropping Contador. The other way round is alright anyway. Froome is waaaaaaaaayyyy ahead this season, as always.
Cracking Contador twice inthe Dauphine would have given him enough confidence already.

 

[Robert5091]

Big thanks to PM for all the time spent putting the info together!

 

[lartiste]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

I'm not disappointed because I want to see Contador drop him.

Yeah? What would be hilarious would be Froome dropping Contador. The other way round is alright anyway. Froome is waaaaaaaaayyyy ahead this season, as always.
Cracking Contador twice inthe Dauphine would have given him enough confidence already.

It is unprobable since Froome did not only the whole Tour, but then travel to Brasil to join the Olympic race, so no rest and low probability to win... .

 

[silvergrenade]

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I'm disappointed that Froome will be at the Vuelta. I hope it doesn't make it as boring as the TdF was as a result of his participation. Hope for better performances from Quintana and Contador, I guess.

I'm not disappointed because I want to see Contador drop him.

Yeah? What would be hilarious would be Froome dropping Contador. The other way round is alright anyway. Froome is waaaaaaaaayyyy ahead this season, as always.
Cracking Contador twice inthe Dauphine would have given him enough confidence already.

It is unprobable since Froome did not only the whole Tour, but then travel to Brasil to join the Olympic race, so no rest and low probability to win... .

Agreed, but you never know. If he can limit his losses to under 2 mins in the mountains, and his rivals have some bad luck(not that I'm wishing for it) he can definitely be a contender. If anybody can do the double, its Froome. Last year's Vuelta finished for him with a lot of what ifs. And Rio was more of a training and he would have recovered from the Tour legs but maintaining that peak would be tough.

 

[Jakub]

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If anybody cannot do the double, its Froome.

I fixed it for you.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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If anybody cannot do the double, its Froome.

I fixed it for you.

....?

 

[silvergrenade]

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If anybody cannot do the double, its Froome.

I fixed it for you.

Who gives a damn what you think man? Taking digs at people who don't love contador is what you generally do instead of ever doing a tangible discussion. Enjoy the next year. Then wait for Bentacur. ( Yes, I went through your posts)

 

[Valv.Piti]

Unless either Froome or Quintana shows up in good form, which is an unknown, Contador should definitely win this race. Well, he should win no matter what if he still wants to be considered as a top tier GC-rider.

While Chaves is good and has a good track record in La Vuelta, I doubt he will contend for the overall. He has to have 2 minutes before the ITT if Contador is intact and the two others are out of the equation. I don't believe in anyone else, MAL is a phenomenon, but its his first GT.

 

[Red Rick]

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If anybody cannot do the double, its Froome.

I fixed it for you.

Who gives a damn what you think man? Taking digs at people who don't love contador is what you generally do instead of ever doing a tangible discussion. Enjoy the next year. Then wait for Bentacur. ( Yes, I went through your posts)

Just... don't go there. Both of you

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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If anybody cannot do the double, its Froome.

I fixed it for you.

Actually, the one who has shown that he cannot do the double is Contador.

 

[silvergrenade]

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Unless either Froome or Quintana shows up in good form, which is an unknown, Contador should definitely win this race. Well, he should win no matter what if he still wants to be considered as a top tier GC-rider.

While Chaves is good and has a good track record in La Vuelta, I doubt he will contend for the overall. He has to have 2 minutes before the ITT if Contador is intact and the two others are out of the equation. I don't believe in anyone else, MAL is a phenomenon, but its his first GT.

Mikel Landa might do an incredible ride provided he rides it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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If anybody cannot do the double, its Froome.

I fixed it for you.

Actually, the one who has shown that he cannot do the double is Contador.

Giro-Tour double is harder than Tour-Vuelta. He never attempted the latter. Froome showed he can't do the Tour-Vuelta double, at least in an Olympic year, in 2012.