2016 Vuelta a España, stage 15: Sabiñánigo > Aramón Formigal

[Ikbengodniet]

Rumours third group is already on 25 minutes!??

 

[bigcog]

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I didn't know you were privy to froome and valverdes conversations, give us a hearty wave from the peloton so we know who you are

 

[Red Rick]

Anyone got an idea why Astana are pulling?

 

[Brullnux]

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Henri Pélissier continues to win his argument that shorter stages make for more exciting racing

Ultra short stages like this (anything below 130/140km) do usually create really exciting races, especially when used after a hard day or a rest day. In moderation.

 

[dacooley]

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Did he seriously just ask Talansky and Valverde to help?

Another proof that skybots have no idea what to do when somebody else does something not planned.

the hate is on

Can you explain why on earth Froome asks Valverde to help? Wait, you can not

I just don't get why forum members tend to make idiots out of top pros. Froome was just having a look at Valverde, not asking him about anything.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

CF still religiously nodding down his stem/SRM
???

 

[Kwibus]

It's still not over. Froome can sit on wheels a lot and everyone is dead. Gap can still be closed.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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Did he seriously just ask Talansky and Valverde to help?

Another proof that skybots have no idea what to do when somebody else does something not planned.

the hate is on

Can you explain why on earth Froome asks Valverde to help? Wait, you can not

I didn't know you were privy to froome and valverdes conversations, give us a hearty wave from the peloton so we know who you are

I'm sure when Froome pointed at the descent he was only asking if they wanted donuts.

And I'm equally sure when Valverde and Talansky waved their heads they were saying they prefer chocolate eclairs.

 

[Irondan]

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Anyone got an idea why Astana are pulling?

To save Scarponi's 9th place?

 

[DFA123]

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Doesn't look good for Froome at all.
He can't rely solely on the time trial anymore.

This vuelta is Quintana's now. Unless Contador ambushes him too at some point but can't see Movistar letting that happen like Sky did.

I don't think there's much they could do there tired from yesterday and injury hit, this is a team missing Henao, Landa, Kwaitkowski and Intxausti all of whom would of made a massive difference to a day like today.

Boo, hoo... Sky don't have enough star domestiques available. Is that the world's smallest violin I can hear?

 

[RattaKuningas]

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Rumours third group is already on 25 minutes!??

I wonder whats time gap today on such a short stage.

 

[Brullnux]

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Anyone got an idea why Astana are pulling?

Scarponi top 10, but I'm sure.

 

[Jelantik]

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Did he seriously just ask Talansky and Valverde to help?

Another proof that skybots have no idea what to do when somebody else does something not planned.

the hate is on

Can you explain why on earth Froome asks Valverde to help? Wait, you can not

i think he asked talansky...not valverde.

 

[rainman]

Kirby what are you on about - Froome has done nothing today except follow wheels

 

[infeXio]

Zeits looks like hes about to die

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Henri Pélissier continues to win his argument that shorter stages make for more exciting racing

Ultra short stages like this (anything below 130/140km) do usually create really exciting races, especially when used after a hard day or a rest day. In moderation.

This is it, if they were all short days then the race would just become the same as it was but over shorter distances. It's the mix of stages that makes these work because if the riders weren't tired from such a long and difficult stage yesterday, this wouldn't happen. I do think that we are seeing a trend that putting a short stage at the end of a mountain block is a positive move, because it's meaning riders are less afraid of them, so they don't race as conservatively in the earlier stages, meaning there's more fatigue to play a role in the short stages.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Froome's much fresher than anyone else, he should pull back quite a lot on the last climb

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Did Froome upset the skybot union - they seem to be on a go slow - and might miss the time limit...

It's such a big group, they won't take all of them out of the race.

 

[saganboss]

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Rumours third group is already on 25 minutes!??

I wonder whats time gap today on such a short stage.

i don't think it's more than 30 min.

 

[burning]

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Did he seriously just ask Talansky and Valverde to help?

Another proof that skybots have no idea what to do when somebody else does something not planned.

the hate is on

Can you explain why on earth Froome asks Valverde to help? Wait, you can not

i think he asked talansky...not valverde.

Valverde also waved his head, maybe he was just stretching his neck

 

[Pantani Attacks]

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Kirby what are you on about - Froome has done nothing today except follow wheels

It's Kirby, he's chairman of the Froome is Jesus reborn fan parade.

 

[El Pistolero]

Astana is really riding pathetic. Who cares about a 9th place in GC?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Zeits looks like hes about to die

I hope he does, figuratively of course

 

[carton]

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This is it, if they were all short days then the race would just become the same as it was but over shorter distances. It's the mix of stages that makes these work because if the riders weren't tired from such a long and difficult stage yesterday, this wouldn't happen. I do think that we are seeing a trend that putting a short stage at the end of a mountain block is a positive move, because it's meaning riders are less afraid of them, so they don't race as conservatively in the earlier stages, meaning there's more fatigue to play a role in the short stages.

QFT

 

[markene2]

Zeits is a beast tho