2016 Vuelta a España, stage 15: Sabiñánigo > Aramón Formigal

[Asero831]

10 minutes before the time limit.
Let's see how many riders will miss the TL

 

[Andro]

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I'm thinking that Quintana could've dropped Froome today without all the craziness, even though the climb was so 'easy'. Fuente de relived almost to the second in difference between the moral victor and loser.

Yeah. Quintana was a lot more in the wind during the stage and he was still able to ride faster in the end. He would likely have dropped Froome anyway, although not by 2 minutes.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Huh did Brambilla just get combativity?

 

[TomLPC]

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Huh did Brambilla just get combativity?

He started the move I think

 

[Lexman]

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Can't believe I traded this for the beach. Only tuned in with 7k to go.

Few questions: Who started the move? When did it happen? Was Froome dropped due to bad legs or caught helpless in team tactics? What did Contador do?

Thanks. And we should stop complaining about stage lenght. Some of the best stages we've gotten recently (in memory) were short, it encourages moves from far out. When was the last time a leg-shredder wth more than 200kms actually delivered? Honest question, might have even been just months ago, I just don't remember.

Contador attacked, or responded to an attack

Froomie was not awake and didn't react immediately ...

Nairo & Alberto said Vamos let's go vroom vroom...

games over for Froom

 

[dacooley]

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Contador handed the Vuelta to Quintana and showed Froome what racing is all about. Too bad he couldn't help himself. Huge respect for a true champion.

interchange froome and quintana and emotions would've been different...

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Stage of the decade! And without any rain or snow.

Wouldn't go that far. Fuente De, Andy on Galibier, Gardeccia?

But what a stage. Cycling at its best.

Aprica 2010 still number 1. But this probably just pips Fuente Dé for most unexpectedly great stage.

I think that there is something about Formigal though, it doesn't have the right to produce the kind of racing it does from pure stats. From Fuente's nine minutes in 1972 to Horner's surprisingly crucial gains in 2013...now this.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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Lets not forget the Castros, Trofimoms and Rovnys today. Some excellent support rider performances.

Now I like to see Sky going all in on one of the remaining stages please......

What Sky? None of them is making the time limit

Race organizer are too soft these days. All will remain.

(lol)

 

[Escarabajo]

So the fight for third place is on.

Great stage for Quintana and Contador.

These false flat stages with long drags to the finish usually result in disasters.

Anyway. Great stage!

 

[Sky train]

Sky screwed badly today. It turns out to be somewhat hard to control race without leader jersey.. Had this happened at the Tour, Chris would have stopped race for hygienic reasons

 

[rainman]

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Can't believe I traded this for the beach. Only tuned in with 7k to go.

Few questions: Who started the move? When did it happen? Was Froome dropped due to bad legs or caught helpless in team tactics? What did Contador do?

Thanks. And we should stop complaining about stage lenght. Some of the best stages we've gotten recently (in memory) were short, it encourages moves from far out. When was the last time a leg-shredder wth more than 200kms actually delivered? Honest question, might have even been just months ago, I just don't remember.

Brambilla started the move on the first small climb in the couple of k's. Froome was caught way down the lineout.

 

[hrotha]

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I'm thinking that Quintana could've dropped Froome today without all the craziness, even though the climb was so 'easy'. Fuente de relived almost to the second in difference between the moral victor and loser.

Yeah. Quintana was a lot more in the wind during the stage and he was still able to ride faster in the end. He would likely have dropped Froome anyway, although not by 2 minutes.

Don't underestimate the psychological toll on Froome's body, plus the effects of the extra effort. Going easy for most of the stage then accelerating at the end is very different from doing the whole stage at top speed.

Things would have been so radically different without Contador's attack, in fact, that it's even possible Froome would have dropped Quintana instead (unlikely, but still).

 

[IndianCyclist]

Froome's weakness is that when he is left without teammates, he panics and due to stress he is psychologically unable to produce his trademark performance. If only somebody had attacked him in 2013 when he was isolated, there would be a different TDF winner.

 

[Miburo]

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Huh did Brambilla just get combativity?

He started the move I think

Contador made the gap though, rewatch the moment, when contador went there were stll many riders left, then 1 miute later there were only 15

 

[Gigs_98]

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Can't believe I traded this for the beach. Only tuned in with 7k to go.

Few questions: Who started the move? When did it happen? Was Froome dropped due to bad legs or caught helpless in team tactics? What did Contador do?

Thanks. And we should stop complaining about stage lenght. Some of the best stages we've gotten recently (in memory) were short, it encourages moves from far out. When was the last time a leg-shredder wth more than 200kms actually delivered? Honest question, might have even been just months ago, I just don't remember.

The corvara stage in the giro this year. Moreover the thing is that there just aren't so many long mountain stages. The brutal giro stage of 2011 was great and the last tdf stage with 3 HC climbs was the one schleck won in 2011, so the long mountain stages work quite often too.

 

[DFA123]

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Huh did Brambilla just get combativity?

He started the move I think

Yeah, that's what I heard as well. Thoroughly deserved stage win.

 

[Escarabajo]

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10 minutes before the time limit.
Let's see how many riders will miss the TL

They will probably move it because of how short the stage was.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Those who made this possible.

Jonathan Castroviejo (Spain)
Ruben Fernandez (Spain)
Nairo Quintana (Colombia)
Alberto Contador (Spain)
Ivan Rovny (Russia)
Yury Trofimov (Russia)
Kenny Elissonde (France)
Fabio Felline (Italia)
Matvey Mamykin (Russia)
Gianluca Brambilla (Italia)
David De La Cruz (Spain)
Davide Formolo (Italia)
Moreno Moser (Italia)
Omar Fraile (Spain)

 

[Brullnux]

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Can't believe I traded this for the beach. Only tuned in with 7k to go.

Few questions: Who started the move? When did it happen? Was Froome dropped due to bad legs or caught helpless in team tactics? What did Contador do?

Thanks. And we should stop complaining about stage lenght. Some of the best stages we've gotten recently (in memory) were short, it encourages moves from far out. When was the last time a leg-shredder wth more than 200kms actually delivered? Honest question, might have even been just months ago, I just don't remember.

Brambilla after 2km, caught, then Contador attacked after 8km taking 3 teammates, Quintana and 2 teammates and a few others. Froome sort of let Nairo go, it was a weird move. Then he had two teammates in the second group chasing but losing, and behind at 40 seconds was the rest of Sky. The pace was so high and sky were so tired that they weren't able to close it, and ended up giving up and losing 25 minutes. Gap stayed steady at 2:15 all day with Contador taking some monster pulls, and behind Orica working a bit and Astana a lot for some reason. Condensed version.

 

[Bogotano]

Contador at the finish roughly; "for me it was making a great stage for the spectators foremost , i said to Nairo for me the gc is secondary because im so far behind, and lets work together because today you can win the vuelta. A great than you to the Colombian fans, im not COlombian but the support from them on the road and on social media is amazing"

too bad he couldnt follow in the last k for the stage win

quintana sooo strong riding the group off his wheel

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Huh did Brambilla just get combativity?

He started the move I think

But they announced Contador got it it was even on the website

 

[BetOrLose]

Super dom Contador helped Quintana winning.

 

[Red Rick]

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Can't believe I traded this for the beach. Only tuned in with 7k to go.

Few questions: Who started the move? When did it happen? Was Froome dropped due to bad legs or caught helpless in team tactics? What did Contador do?

Thanks. And we should stop complaining about stage lenght. Some of the best stages we've gotten recently (in memory) were short, it encourages moves from far out. When was the last time a leg-shredder wth more than 200kms actually delivered? Honest question, might have even been just months ago, I just don't remember.

The corvara stage in the giro this year. Moreover the thing is that there just aren't so many long mountain stages. The brutal giro stage of 2011 was great and the last tdf stage with 3 HC climbs was the one schleck won in 2011, so the long mountain stages work quite often too.

Froome was chilling at the back about at the start of the stage, Contador attacked on a downhill, and the peloton split. Valverde later attacked the peloton for no reason other than to to derail the Sky train, isolating Froome. Then the difference was between 3'00" and 1'50" for the entire stage. Froome just cracked at the end and it turned out he didn't ride because he didn't have the legs

 

[TomLPC]

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Huh did Brambilla just get combativity?

He started the move I think

But they announced Contador got it it was even on the website

Yeah he's just got it now, fair play to him

 

[JRanton]

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Froome's weakness is that when he is left without teammates, he panics and due to stress he is psychologically unable to produce his trademark performance. If only somebody had attacked him in 2013 when he was isolated, there would be a different TDF winner.

Total BS. It was another hard day after yesterday and he was obviously suffering due to that. It's not as if we haven't seen Froome suffer in the 3rd week at the Vuelta before.