2016 Vuelta a España, stage 15: Sabiñánigo > Aramón Formigal

[Dekker_Tifosi]

it would leave many teams with 1 rider or even none

 

[oronet commander]

54'???? I cannot believe it. They should be out at whatever cost

 

[yaco]

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Today's stage proved two things - The riders make a stage exciting - And attacking early in mountin stages makes SKY vulnerable, though no-one would expect 6 Sky riders to be lapped after 10km.

This Sky team is not that Sky team.

Irrelevant - There are myths in sport that are allowed to be perpetrated - Sky picks 7 climbers in the TDF - But on mountain stages they are allowed a Sunday afternoon stroll until they reach the mountains - Then we wonder why Sky is strong in the mountains.

 

[jsem94]

They should really do something about those situations. It's embarrassing that exceptions have to be made if enough people decide they want to rest.

 

[SKSemtex]

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it would leave many teams with 1 rider or even none

And wouldnť it be just epic.

 

[seldon71]

If Time Limit is indeed honored, Froome will have no teammates in a race anymore...

One-man teams also for FdJ (Elissonde), Bora-Argon (Pfingsten) & Lotto NL-Jumbo (Bennett)

Movistar 8
Tinkoff 6
Cannondale 6
Astana 5
Lampre 5
Orica - GreenEdge 4
Caja Rural 4
AG2R 4
BMC 4
Trek, Katusha, Etixx, IAM, Lotto-Soudal 3
Dimension Data, Cofidis, Giant-Alpecin 2

Direct Energie gone....

 

[jsem94]

And to everyone talking rubbish about Contador just wanting to end Froome, he also did get something out of this. He will likely end up on the podium because of this move since he will take time on Chaves in the TT if gaps stay the same.

 

[Miburo]

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it would leave many teams with 1 rider or even none

And only the riders and the team to blame.

 

[RattaKuningas]

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it would leave many teams with 1 rider or even none

And only the riders and the team to blame.

Indeed. With decent pace the time limit wouldn't have been a problem on a stage that is just 118km long or should I say short.

 

[jsem94]

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He really said that? Wow, that's sad.

Truly tragic that someone would be racing to create spectacle - I agree.
The Tour was so much more entertaining, with everyone behaving as they should.

This. God forbid someone wants to make it exciting for the viewers. And he also got something out of this. Took time on everyone but Quintana.

 

[DanielSong39]

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Brambilla from a break.

Wow, what a prediction.

I hope you made money on this one.

 

[Popchu]

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Brambilla from a break.

Wow, what a prediction.

I hope you made money on this one.

He was one of the big favorites for the bookies

 

[veji11]

The UCI and race organiser should just tell teams that they all abused the rule trying not to get their riders DQed by having too many of them in the group, and that therefore they will be fined 1 000 Franc Suisse per rider in the group.. Will make them think next time.

 

[proffz]

Re: 2016 Vuelta a España, stage 15: Sabiñánigo > Aramón Form

So the peloton of 90+ riders... finally lost 54 minutes. 22 min over the limit.

It's now or never. And they truly should be out.

100% must DQ them. They didn't even try to make it in time and decided to rest. It is unfair to riders who were inside the time limit.

they should DQ them
otherwise it is better to remove time limit as a rule from GT.

somebody should teach the riders they are pro.
in a 118 km stage 53 min is too much
no reason to admit them back

 

[cesko_jr]

Re: 2016 Vuelta a España, stage 15: Sabiñánigo > Aramón Form

Why they not start tomorrow stage 22 minutes after others. This rule will make them work to make time limit cut if there is a big peloton behind.

 

[hulkhogansknees]

https://twitter.com/danimontoliu/status/772475174029524992



(Not my photo btw)

 

[slosada]

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The UCI and race organiser should just tell teams that they all abused the rule trying not to get their riders DQed by having too many of them in the group, and that therefore they will be fined 1 000 Franc Suisse per rider in the group.. Will make them think next time.

Maybe they can start tomorrow 10 minutes behind... They will need to chase the peloton, and, perhaps, the bunch decides to race early on.
EDIT: cesko_jr beat me on that

 

[Eclipse]

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it would leave many teams with 1 rider or even none

And they'd only have themselves to blame.

The organisers either need to put their foot down or ditch the limit altogether

There was a coordinated and conscious effort to knock back the pace today from a large group of riders because they believe they won't be DQ'd if enough of them come in together.

 

[classicomano]

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Brambilla from a break.

Wow, what a prediction.

I hope you made money on this one.

Unfortunately not, but at least I have your admiration!

 

[Jungle Cycle]

someone mentioned "if 25% of the starters' didnt make the limit it'll be over ruled.. is that true?

 

[veji11]

Isn't there the possibility to give fines when riders do something that shades a bad light on the race ? These would the grounds on which to fine.

 

[ice&fire]

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The UCI and race organiser should just tell teams that they all abused the rule trying not to get their riders DQed by having too many of them in the group, and that therefore they will be fined 1 000 Franc Suisse per rider in the group.. Will make them think next time.

The fine should be proportional to the team budget.

 

[Googolplex]

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someone mentioned "if 25% of the starters' didnt make the limit it'll be over ruled.. is that true?

At least in 2012 TdF rules there was that it can be extended if 20% of riders are over. But it's not in the rules anymore.

 

[Googolplex]

Giro rules (from 2014) have 25% but in different meaning:

In case of special atmospheric conditions or other exceptional circumstances, confirmed accidents or incidents, the Commissaires’ Panel, in consultation with the Giro Director, shall have the right to readmit in the race any rider finishing in a time exceeding the time limit, by increasing the latter by a maximum of 25% of the time set out in this Article. Accordingly, Article 2.6.032 of the UCI Regulations shall apply to the “Classification by points”.
The time limit, established on the basis of the winner’s time expressed in minute seconds, shall be further rounded off to the successive superior minute.

I think that kind of upper limit would be good in every race. You can't be endlessly behind even in big group.

 

[seldon71]

Even extending to 25 % (or extending to unheard-of 30 %) would not save these guys. They rolled iin at +31%... I predict they are indeed gone.